The Democrat Thread

[lostfan]

I never realized he was black.

McClellan or D.L. Hughley? McClellan is definitely not black.

 

However, out of these conservatives coming out and endorsing Obama, the one that has to sting the most to McCain is the Goldwater family. Ouch.

[bmags]

McClellan or D.L. Hughley? McClellan is definitely not black.

 

However, out of these conservatives coming out and endorsing Obama, the one that has to sting the most to McCain is the Goldwater family. Ouch.

 

I'm fairly certain he was making a "Rush Limbaugh on Colin Powell" joke.

[lostfan]

I'm fairly certain he was making a "Rush Limbaugh on Colin Powell" joke.

I get it now.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Palin: I never wore those $150,000 worth of clothes

 

Sarah Palin told FOX News on Thursday that some of the clothes that were ill-fitting or just bought to be tried and possibly worn were returned right away.

 

Everything that "could be returned was," she said. Another third of the clothing remains unwrapped and packed in the belly of the vice presidential candidate's campaign plane and the rest is being worn.

 

"Those clothes are not my property," Palin told FOX News' Sean Hannity. "We had three days (at the convention) of using clothes that the RNC purchased."

[BigSqwert]

I get it now.

 

I see you're just as slow as I am in picking up the humor.

[lostfan]

I see you're just as slow as I am in picking up the humor.

It's hard to pick up sarcasm over text.

[Harry Chappas]

Palin: I never wore those $150,000 worth of clothes

 

This could be the most pointless conversation being held at this time. Icould care less where her clothes came from. I know the government wastes a-lot more of this money than anything.

 

To me I kind of like the idea that she does not have a fancy enough wardrobe.

 

This is as pointless as anything covered in the media thus far.

[Chet Lemon]

This could be the most pointless conversation being held at this time. Icould care less where her clothes came from. I know the government wastes a-lot more of this money than anything.

 

To me I kind of like the idea that she does not have a fancy enough wardrobe.

 

This is as pointless as anything covered in the media thus far.

 

I think the reason it was covered was because of how Palin described herself (i.e. modest hockey mom), then disproving that by spending 150k on clothes, 20k on makeup, etc. I agree it is a stupid issue, and it is not important to me.

 

Ultimately, the media have been doing it for years, such as when Gore was lambasted for days by the media for getting a fashion consultant to make him appear less stuffy. Then Clark was made fun of by the media in the '04 primaries becuase he wore a sweater to one of the debates.

 

[BigSqwert]

That girl who was mugged and attacked lied.

 

Pathetic

[lostfan]

Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama.

 

My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate?

[Gene Honda Civic]

That girl who was mugged and attacked lied.

 

Pathetic

I knew that was fake as soon as I saw the pic on the Smoking Gun...

[lostfan]

I knew that was fake as soon as I saw the pic on the Smoking Gun...

So I guess the B is backwards because dumbass scratched it into her face while she was looking in the mirror.

[longshot7]

Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama.

 

My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate?

 

We'll find out - Maya Rudolph is supposed to be on SNL this weekend as Michelle.

 

(Also, Michelle is not running for office - Buchanan is comparing apples and oranges)

[Nokona]

Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama.

 

My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate?

 

Slow it down there Pat, we all know how you really feel about black people

[NorthSideSox72]

Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama.

 

My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate?

Good post.

 

[Harry Chappas]

Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama.

 

My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate?

 

I think if Michelle Obama got up on stage and did this it would go over great if America could really laugh that off, which they can't, which is why she can not and SNL will not do that.

 

The morons that are the general public would really not get the joke and I am talking about the gun toting run to Jesus crowd.

[BigSqwert]

GWB Redux:

 

* More than 100 appointments to state posts -- nearly 1 in 4 -- went to campaign contributors or their relatives, sometimes without apparent regard to qualifications.

 

* Palin filled 16 state offices with appointees from families that donated $2,000 to $5,600 and were among her top political patrons.

 

* Several of Palin's leading campaign donors received state-subsidized industrial development loans of up to $3.6 million for business ventures of questionable public value.

 

* Palin picked a donor to replace the public safety commissioner she fired. But the new top cop had to resign days later under an ethics cloud. And Palin drew a formal ethics complaint still pending against her and several aides for allegedly helping another donor and fundraiser land a state job.

[lostfan]

My question about Michelle Obama was partly mocking, partly rhetorical, and partly serious.

[Steve9347]

So I guess the B is backwards because dumbass scratched it into her face while she was looking in the mirror.

That's hilarious.

[BigSqwert]

Kind of long but a good read...

 

The Myth Of A Maverick

 

by dday

 

Matt Stoller has scored an incredible interview with a staffer from John McCain's 2000 Presidential campaign. It might not surprise you, given the sludge that his campaign is currently running, that the style is virtually unchanged from those days, when he was this supposed straight-talking honorable maverick. John McCain hasn't changed a bit.

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, but not unexpected.

This would be a nice story to fax to David Broder and Chris Matthews and Joe Klein, these pundits who did somersaults any time McCain was in their general orbit for years, and who think that this dive into the muck is only of recent vintage. McCain has been saying and doing anything to get elected for a long, long time. The gasbags became so impressed by this military man and his presumed honor that they made up a story about him, created an image basically out of nothing, an image that until this year made him the most respected Republican politician in America. Now a few of them are seeing the error of their ways, but they're replacing it with another story - John McCain's changed. He had to go to the dark side in this election. He didn't even want to, it's those Rove protégés around him that are pushing this noble warrior into it.

 

Wrong. All wrong. McCain lives for knifing his political enemies. He just wants deniability for it, which so many in the media are willing to give him thanks to this carefully cultivated image. The great axiom of modern politics is that if someone on television is telling you how honorable a politician is, well, just turn the sound off, because it's nothing but inauthentic flattery. Cocktail parties don't have this much gladhanding at them.

 

 

[BigSqwert]

The vet who did not vet:

 

[BigSqwert]

LMAO! Bob Cesca's blog rules.

 

Stranahan Mauled By McCain Supporter!

 

Look! Awesome photo evidence of Lee Stranahan after he was attacked by a McCain thug! Seriously!

 

 

Giant red letters! Siren light animated gif!

[GoSox05]

Remembering Paul Wellstone.

 

 

[rangercal]

That's hilarious.

 

She would have been better off Carving an "O" for Obama.

[Balta1701]