Pitchers the Sox Should Acquire

[Chisoxfn]

If your reading this KW, here are some guys that should be available. Russ Ortiz probably wouldn't be available yet. I don't see the Braves giving up this early.

 

Jason Schmidt - STUD, plain and simple and he has an affordable contract if the Sox give up a Lee or Konerko as the main piece. Only flaw to Schmidt is his arm could fall off, especially since he's had two 120 pitch counts and then followed that up with a 144 pitch count outing cause Felipe Alou is a moron. This is after Schmidt is coming off an elbow surgery over the offseason. He is better then Colon though.

 

Freddy Garcia - Potential Stud. He's young, hasn't shown signs of injuries, and after a year and a half of hitting a funk (still wasn't all that bad) he's back on track. He was once one of the best young pitchers in the majors and he's got the shot to be one of the best starters in the league. He could be had for Lee straight up, imo, and would be a great addition.

 

Ben Sheets - Young Gun. He's young, had an injury problem, but when healthy has been really good. He's having a great year and is whats right in Milwalkee. He'll cost an arm and a leg to get, but is very affordable and the Sox could potentially acquire him and sign him long term to a deal similar to what Buehrle got. You could then pencil him in the rotation for this year and years beyond with Garland, Buehrle, and eventually Cotts. The question is how much will it cost and will he be able to pitch well under pressure. His WHIP is a sick .98

 

Russ Ortiz - Solid frontline starter. He is still young, has playoff experience, and has been an ace, although he isn't truly an ace. He is a good pitcher but he walks people and that could hurt him a little more in the AL.

 

Livan Hernandez - Solid starter. Doesn't wow you with stuff, but just flat gets it done. He's a little overpaid so you may even get the Expos to take Konerko off your hands if you give them a good prospect. Konerko and Livans salaries would wash with the Expos getting a player that could potentially help them in the future. Not a big fan of Livan's though, especially compared to the other guys on the list.

 

Kip Wells - Good young starter. Doubt he'd be back in CHicago though and the Pirates would probably ask for a lot since he doens't have a big contract. Sheets is better then him so I'd rather see the Sox go in that direction.

[qwerty]

If the sox got any one of those pitches i think we would be really set for a pennant run

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Kip Wells - Good young starter.  Doubt he'd be back in CHicago though and the Pirates would probably ask for a lot since he doens't have a big contract.  Sheets is better then him so I'd rather see the Sox go in that direction.

What I wouldn't give to see Kip Wells back with us. That would heal the pain from the Todd Ritchie debacle & give us a really SOLID rotation.

[1549]

If your reading this KW, here are some guys that should be available.  Russ Ortiz probably wouldn't be available yet.  I don't see the Braves giving up this early. 

 

Jason Schmidt - STUD, plain and simple and he has an affordable contract if the Sox give up a Lee or Konerko as the main piece.  Only flaw to Schmidt is his arm could fall off, especially since he's had two 120 pitch counts and then followed that up with a 144 pitch count outing cause Felipe Alou is a moron.  This is after Schmidt is coming off an elbow surgery over the offseason.  He is better then Colon though. 

 

Freddy Garcia - Potential Stud.  He's young, hasn't shown signs of injuries, and after a year and a half of hitting a funk (still wasn't all that bad) he's back on track.  He was once one of the best young pitchers in the majors and he's got the shot to be one of the best starters in the league.  He could be had for Lee straight up, imo, and would be a great addition.

 

Ben Sheets - Young Gun.  He's young, had an injury problem, but when healthy has been really good.  He's having a great year and is whats right in Milwalkee.  He'll cost an arm and a leg to get, but is very affordable and the Sox could potentially acquire him and sign him long term to a deal similar to what Buehrle got.  You could then pencil him in the rotation for this year and years beyond with Garland, Buehrle, and eventually Cotts.  The question is how much will it cost and will he be able to pitch well under pressure.  His WHIP is a sick .98

 

Russ Ortiz - Solid frontline starter.  He is still young, has playoff experience, and has been an ace, although he isn't truly an ace.  He is a good pitcher but he walks people and that could hurt him a little more in the AL. 

 

Livan Hernandez - Solid starter.  Doesn't wow you with stuff, but just flat gets it done.  He's a little overpaid so you may even get the Expos to take Konerko off your hands if you give them a good prospect.  Konerko and Livans salaries would wash with the Expos getting a player that could potentially help them in the future.  Not a big fan of Livan's though, especially compared to the other guys on the list. 

 

Kip Wells - Good young starter.  Doubt he'd be back in CHicago though and the Pirates would probably ask for a lot since he doens't have a big contract.  Sheets is better then him so I'd rather see the Sox go in that direction.

All these guys will come at a high price.

 

I like all of them except for Ortiz. The guy can't go 9 innings because he walks nearly as many batters as he strikes out. He is the only guy on their I don't want to see in a Sox uni.

 

I would be surprised if the brewers gave up sheets

[Chisoxfn]

I'd be surprised if the Brewers did it too, but give them a package involving Honel and then their choice of anyone but Sweeney/Reed and see if they reject it. I'd hate to see Anderson go as well, but for a guy like Sheets, you chance it.

 

I think Schmidt and Garcia would involve Lee and maybe a prospect.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

I'd be surprised if the Brewers did it too, but give them a package involving Honel and then their choice of anyone but Sweeney/Reed and see if they reject it.  I'd hate to see Anderson go as well, but for a guy like Sheets, you chance it. 

 

I think Schmidt and Garcia would involve Lee and maybe a prospect.

Oh jeez, if we could unload Lee and get a decent No. 5 man for him that would be a godsend.

 

Dumbass automatic out Caballo.

[Gene Honda Civic]

While I would certainly welcome Garcia on the Sox, His numbers away from Safco Field have been anything but dominating.

 

Home (4 starts) 2.00ERA .197BAA

Away (4 starts) 3.74ERA .274BAA

 

Most Disturbing is his GB/FB ratio -- 74/72(1.03) would not cut it in USCF. Garland(1.20), Buerhle(1.33), Loaiza(1.19), and Schoeneweis(1.28) all have better ratios. Hell even Neal Cotts has a better GB/FB ratio than does Garcia. All four of the Sox starters have a better ERA&BAA away from home -- USCF(especially with the new roof) is a hitters park. To succeed there, you have to keep the ball down and get the ground ball --

 

Garcia is a good pitcher, but he's not the best fit on the southside.

 

Again, I'd welcome him to the southside, but his ERA would take a beating if he keeps throwing those flyballs at USCF

[GoodAsGould]

dont diss the caballo thats an 11 game hitting streak now he is unstoppable

[Cerbaho-WG]

If your reading this KW, here are some guys that should be available.  Russ Ortiz probably wouldn't be available yet.  I don't see the Braves giving up this early. 

 

Jason Schmidt - STUD, plain and simple and he has an affordable contract if the Sox give up a Lee or Konerko as the main piece.  Only flaw to Schmidt is his arm could fall off, especially since he's had two 120 pitch counts and then followed that up with a 144 pitch count outing cause Felipe Alou is a moron.  This is after Schmidt is coming off an elbow surgery over the offseason.  He is better then Colon though. 

 

Freddy Garcia - Potential Stud.  He's young, hasn't shown signs of injuries, and after a year and a half of hitting a funk (still wasn't all that bad) he's back on track.  He was once one of the best young pitchers in the majors and he's got the shot to be one of the best starters in the league.  He could be had for Lee straight up, imo, and would be a great addition.

 

Ben Sheets - Young Gun.  He's young, had an injury problem, but when healthy has been really good.  He's having a great year and is whats right in Milwalkee.  He'll cost an arm and a leg to get, but is very affordable and the Sox could potentially acquire him and sign him long term to a deal similar to what Buehrle got.  You could then pencil him in the rotation for this year and years beyond with Garland, Buehrle, and eventually Cotts.  The question is how much will it cost and will he be able to pitch well under pressure.  His WHIP is a sick .98

 

Russ Ortiz - Solid frontline starter.  He is still young, has playoff experience, and has been an ace, although he isn't truly an ace.  He is a good pitcher but he walks people and that could hurt him a little more in the AL. 

 

Livan Hernandez - Solid starter.  Doesn't wow you with stuff, but just flat gets it done.  He's a little overpaid so you may even get the Expos to take Konerko off your hands if you give them a good prospect.  Konerko and Livans salaries would wash with the Expos getting a player that could potentially help them in the future.  Not a big fan of Livan's though, especially compared to the other guys on the list. 

 

Kip Wells - Good young starter.  Doubt he'd be back in CHicago though and the Pirates would probably ask for a lot since he doens't have a big contract.  Sheets is better then him so I'd rather see the Sox go in that direction.

Sheets and Wells will not happen, at all.

[GoodAsGould]

if the brewers somehow stay in the race they wont give up ben sheets but once they start losing which they will sheets will definetely be on the market

[Cerbaho-WG]

if the brewers somehow stay in the race they wont give up ben sheets but once they start losing which they will sheets will definetely be on the market

No he won't. The Brewers will not trade away their only legitimate ace. He's going to be a mainstay in Milwaukee until his arm flies off.

[BrandoFan]

Where's Odalis Perez as an option?

 

We have a #2 in Buerhle

We have a #3 in Loaiza

We have a #4 in Judy

We have a #5 in Schoenweiss/Cotts/Rauch

 

#1 is missing, and you can't win ALDS within a big 3....

[Cali]

dont diss the caballo thats an 11 game hitting streak now he is unstoppable 

Not to mention today, 4-5 with 6 RBI's

[JoshPR]

If your reading this KW, here are some guys that should be available.  Russ Ortiz probably wouldn't be available yet.  I don't see the Braves giving up this early. 

 

Jason Schmidt - STUD, plain and simple and he has an affordable contract if the Sox give up a Lee or Konerko as the main piece.  Only flaw to Schmidt is his arm could fall off, especially since he's had two 120 pitch counts and then followed that up with a 144 pitch count outing cause Felipe Alou is a moron.  This is after Schmidt is coming off an elbow surgery over the offseason.  He is better then Colon though. 

 

Freddy Garcia - Potential Stud.  He's young, hasn't shown signs of injuries, and after a year and a half of hitting a funk (still wasn't all that bad) he's back on track.  He was once one of the best young pitchers in the majors and he's got the shot to be one of the best starters in the league.  He could be had for Lee straight up, imo, and would be a great addition.

 

Ben Sheets - Young Gun.  He's young, had an injury problem, but when healthy has been really good.  He's having a great year and is whats right in Milwalkee.  He'll cost an arm and a leg to get, but is very affordable and the Sox could potentially acquire him and sign him long term to a deal similar to what Buehrle got.  You could then pencil him in the rotation for this year and years beyond with Garland, Buehrle, and eventually Cotts.  The question is how much will it cost and will he be able to pitch well under pressure.  His WHIP is a sick .98

 

Russ Ortiz - Solid frontline starter.  He is still young, has playoff experience, and has been an ace, although he isn't truly an ace.  He is a good pitcher but he walks people and that could hurt him a little more in the AL. 

 

Livan Hernandez - Solid starter.  Doesn't wow you with stuff, but just flat gets it done.  He's a little overpaid so you may even get the Expos to take Konerko off your hands if you give them a good prospect.  Konerko and Livans salaries would wash with the Expos getting a player that could potentially help them in the future.  Not a big fan of Livan's though, especially compared to the other guys on the list. 

 

Kip Wells - Good young starter.  Doubt he'd be back in CHicago though and the Pirates would probably ask for a lot since he doens't have a big contract.  Sheets is better then him so I'd rather see the Sox go in that direction.

Freddy Garcia is the best bet, Along with Kris Benson.

 

Don't want Ortiz, Livan is impossible as is Schmidt

 

Alou is not a Moron

[Guest M Dub 20000]

Yeah if they got one of those guys, they would easily be in pennant run

 

But who would we give up?

[SoxAce]

I wouldn't mind at all having Perez or Garcia...

[FUCKREINSDORF]

Like the idea of Schmidt or Garcia,but watch Schmidt closely.He threw 144 pitches over 9 IP Tuesday night shutting out the sCrUBbieS 1-0.

[Chisoxfn]

I really don't think the Dodgers have starting pitching to trade. And if they do it would be Hideo Nomo and not Odalis Perez who has arguably been their best starter.

[beck72]

Sea. could trade for Garcia for Carlos without giving up the season. The M's need offense. They could move Ibanez to 1B and sit Olerud. Olerud, Winn and Aurilia are the biggest disappointments. Lee could DH as well next season if Edgar doesn't come back. [Probably not]

 

If Seattle gets swept by Det. at home, [sea's up 2-1 in the 7th] I'd look for a trade Monday morning.

[CWSGuy406]

Carlos Lee did have a good game, yes, but look what Aaron Rowand did. 3 for 6 or something along those lines, a couple of RBIs, a homer, a couple of singles. Im not comparing Lee to Rowand, because IMO Lee is better that Rowand, but I still think that Lee is very expendable. A platoon in LF of Rowand/Perez/Gload is something that wouldn't be terrible to me, especially if Reed isn't quite ready for the bigs yet.

[Butter Parque]

If KW does this deal, he's a God:

 

Carlos Lee, Joe Borchard

for

Freddy Garcia

 

I've given up on Borchard and it's time to let Reed come in and see what he's all about. Or you could just put Gload in Left.

[CWSGuy406]

All I want is a guy who can go seven or eight innings and put up a sub four and a half ERA. Now, if we give up a lot to get a guy I'll want better than that, but we need someone who can get the job done.

[Jordan4life_2007]

If KW does this deal, he's a God:

 

Carlos Lee, Joe Borchard

              for

Freddy Garcia

 

I've given up on Borchard and it's time to let Reed come in and see what he's all about. Or you could just put Gload in Left.

I wouldn't give up both. And have you seen what Borchard has been doing of late? He had 3 hr's and 6 rbi's today.

[qwerty]

I wouldn't give up both.  And have you seen what Borchard has been doing of late?  He had 3 hr's and 6 rbi's today.

Yeah i would definatly not get rid of borchard just yet.

[CWSGuy406]

I wouldn't give up both.  And have you seen what Borchard has been doing of late?  He had 3 hr's and 6 rbi's today.

Well, eventually, we are going to have to give up on someone in the outfield - we are going to have one hell of a logjam, which isn't a terrible thing. Ordonez-Lee-Borchard-Reed-Sweeney-Anderson. That's six right there, and hopefully Borchard can still be the player we all once thought that he would be.

 

Fact is, we NEED a fifth starter. We cannot continue to piss away every fifth game, it's a damn joke. I'd like to see Rauch given another shot though, before we make a trade.