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CF- Jerry Owens

SS- Alexai Ramirez

DH- Jim Thome

LF- Carlos Quentin

RF- Jermaine Dye

C- AJ Pierzynski

1B- Paul Konerko

3B- Josh Fields

2B- Chris Getz

 

Bench:

 

IF- Wilson Betemit

IF: Brent Lillenbridge?

OF: Brian Andeson

OF: Dewayne Wise

C: ???

 

SP: Mark Buehrle

SP: John Danks

SP: Gavin Floyd

SP: Clayton Richard

SP: Bartolo Colon

 

CP: Bobby Jenks

RP: Matt Thorton

RP: Ocatavio Dotel

RP: Scott Linebrink

RP: DJ Carrasco

LRP: Lance Broadway

 

If Jerry Owens and Josh Fields can play as good as 07 or better this will be a good team. Starting pitching, 3B/SS/RF/CF/C defense is a ?, AJP still can't throw out runners at 2b, Thome, Dye, Konerko are a year older, bullpen is solid, lineup has lots of power and a little speed. Hopefully this team avoids injuries and the starting pitching and defense is solid.

 

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Getz 2b

Ramirez ss

Quentin lf

Dye rf

Thome dh

Konerko 1b

Pierzynski c

Fields 3b

Anderson cf

 

Betemit

Lillibridge

Wise/Owens

Viciedo

Stewart

 

Buehrle

Floyd

Danks

Colon

Marquez/Contreras

 

Jenks

Linebrink

Thornton

Dotel

Carrasco

Poreda/Richard

 

Of course it's too early yet, but as it stands now this is roughly what they could/should put together. I don't like Ramirez batting second but what are ya gonna do.

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Wise-CF

Ramirez-SS

Quentin-LF

Thome-DH

Dye-RF

Konerko-1B

Pierzynski-C

Fields-3B

Getz-2B

 

S1- Buehrle

S2- Floyd

S3- Danks

S4- Colon

S5- Richard

 

OF- Owens

OF- Anderson

IF- Betimet

IF- Nix

C- Lucy

 

LHP- Thornton

RHP- Jenks

RHP- Dotel

RHP- Linebrink

RHP- Russel

RHP- Wasserman

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QUOTE (thedoctor @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 07:05 PM)
i don't know why you'd put alexei second when he's one of our better guys with runners in scoring position.

 

(1) Because he'd see more fast-balls.

(2) And people would be unlikely to pitch around him with Q batting 3rd.

 

I like the idea. I think he could have a great year in the #2 position.

 

Regarding him being good with guys in scoring position...

 

It won't be a problem if the guys in front of him (Fields batting 8th, Getz 9th, and whoever at leadoff) do a respectable job of getting on base.

 

 

 

 

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CF- Lillibridge

2B- Getz

RF- Quentin

LF- Dye

DH- Thome

1B- Konerko

SS- Ramirez

C- AJ

3B- Fields

 

BN - Lucy

BN - Wise

BN - Nix

BN - Owens

BN - Betemit

 

SP- Danks

SP- Floyd

SP- Buehrle

SP- Richard

SP- Broadway

 

RP- Jenks

RP- Linebrink

RP- Dotel

RP- Thornton

RP- Poreda

RP- Russell

 

 

 

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CF- Yasser Gomez

SS- Ramirez

RF- Quentin

LF- Dye

DH- Thome

1B- Konerko

C- AJ

3B- Fields

2B- Getz

 

BN - Pudge

BN - Wise

BN - Lillibridge

BN - Anderson

BN - Betemit

 

SP- Danks

SP- Floyd

SP- Buehrle

SP- Richard

SP- Marquez

 

RP- Jenks

RP- Linebrink

RP- Dotel

RP- Thornton

RP- Yadel Marti

RP- Russell

 

KW put faith in two young starters last year. They both succeeded. I have no problem with him doing it again.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 08:45 PM)
If you believe KW, everyone has been wrong so far. AJP will bat 2nd again.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5416853.story

 

I can't see it if Owens leads off.

 

It would result in 3 consecutive lefties: Getz at #9; Owens at #1; AJ at #2.

 

I don't think Ozzie would do that.

 

 

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Assuming we don't bring in any new players:

 

1B- Konerko

DH- Thome

CF- Alexei

LF- Quentin

RF- Dye

C- Fields

2B- Getz

3B- Pierzynski

SS- Lillibridge

 

OF- Anderson

OF- Owens/Wise

INF- Betemit

C- Corky Miller???

 

SP- Buehrle

SP- Floyd

SP- Danks

SP- Colon

SP- Richard/Marquez/Poreda/Broadway

 

CL- Jenks

SU- Linebrink

RP- Dotel

RP- Thornton

RP- Richard/Marquez

RP- Russell/Poreda/whoever else

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QUOTE (scenario @ Feb 2, 2009 -> 02:20 AM)
(1) Because he'd see more fast-balls.

(2) And people would be unlikely to pitch around him with Q batting 3rd.

 

I like the idea. I think he could have a great year in the #2 position.

 

Regarding him being good with guys in scoring position...

 

It won't be a problem if the guys in front of him (Fields batting 8th, Getz 9th, and whoever at leadoff) do a respectable job of getting on base.

 

i dunno. i just don't see it. i think alexei's more valuable lower in the order where he's got a better chance to drive in a fair amount of runs. jmho.

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QUOTE (VenomSox @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 08:21 PM)
CF- Lillibridge

2B- Getz

RF- Quentin

LF- Dye

DH- Thome

1B- Konerko

SS- Ramirez

C- AJ

3B- Fields

I was going to post the exact same lineup. I like the potential of Lillibridge and Getz at the top.

 

 

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QUOTE (thedoctor @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 09:14 PM)
i dunno. i just don't see it. i think alexei's more valuable lower in the order where he's got a better chance to drive in a fair amount of runs. jmho.

 

I understand. There are pro's and con's to both.

 

If he does hit lower in the order, it's likely to be 7th... with Fields, Getz, and Owens hitting behind him.

 

If he hits second, he'll have Quentin, Thome, and Dye hitting behind him.

 

In the second scenario, I think he'll see better pitches.

 

That's why I like it.

 

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Owens- CF

Pierzynski- C

Quentin- LF

Dye-RF

Thome-DH

Konerko- 1B

Ramirez- SS

Fields- 3B

Getz- 2B

 

Bench- Lillibridge-2B/SS, Betemit-1B/3B, Stewart-C, Anderson-OF

 

Rotation- Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Richard

 

Bullpen- Poreda, Carrasco, Russell, Thornton, Linebrink, Dotel, Jenks

 

Wise gets traded or released at the end of spring training.

 

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soooo much can change during spring training. but as of right now here is what i project:

 

Lillybridge CF (has an amazing ST)

Pierzynski C (like Fathom said, KW loves AJ hitting second)

Quentin LF

Dye RF

Thome DH

Ramirez SS

Konerko 1B

Fields 3B

Getz 2B

 

Bench: Betemit 3B, 1B, Wise OF, Anderson OF, ?? C, Nix INF

 

Rotation:

Buerhle

Danks

Floyd

Poreda (has an amazing ST...)

Colon

 

Bullpen:

Jenks, Thorton, Dotel, Linebrink, Richard, Wasserman

 

Spring training battles to watch:

2B: I think it will be really close between Getz and Lillybridge.

3B: Many people are pretty much assuming Fields wins the 3B position with all of his offseason work with Cora, but it shall be interesting to see how this Viciedo guy does in Spring training to challange him.

5th starter spot: Poreda vs Richard vs Marquez vs Broadway- KW seems really high on Marquez but i see him more as in insurance policy to Colon. Broadway hasn't really devloped into what we thought he could become. I think its really down to Richard and Poreda and the loser goes to the bullpen... it will be fun to watch.

CF: This is by far the biggest question mark on our team. Does Ozzie let Anderson have 1 more crack at it? We all know his defensive capabilities, but can he finally hit on a consistent basis? Does Owens finally stay healthy enough to be that speedy guy we have missed since Pods? Does Wise have the spring training of his life to become our leadoff hitter? Can Lillybridge adjust to centerfield in time for the regular season?

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QUOTE (thedoctor @ Feb 1, 2009 -> 07:05 PM)
i don't know why you'd put alexei second when he's one of our better guys with runners in scoring position.

That's why I said I hate putting him there. But as the lineup currently stands, there is no one to put second unlessyou want to put AJ there again following the left handed Getz at leadoff.

 

Ideally, I'd bat Ramirez sixth, maybe seventh.

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Owens - CF

Ramirez - SS

Quentin - LF

Thome - DH

Dye - RF

Konerko - 1B

Pierzynski - C

Fields - 3B

Getz - 2B

 

Bench - Lillibridge - 2B/SS, Betemit - 1B/3B, Stewart - C, Anderson - OF

 

Rotation - Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Richard

 

Bullpen - Poreda, Carrasco, Russell, Thornton, Linebrink, Dotel, Jenks

 

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But I think it's very possible the Sox will only carry 11 pitchers in April (making Poreda the odd man out because he's probably the only one with options left), and that Wise will make the team instead.

 

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Things will get pretty interesting if Viciedo and/or a couple of pitchers competing for spots (like Broadway, Egbert, Wasserman, Link, or Jimenez) have a good spring training.

 

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And the whole lineup gets much more confusing/interesting if Owens pulls a groin muscle again... and Anderson or Lillibridge have a strong spring training. I do NOT believe that CF is being handed to Owens. I think one of those three guys will win the job based on how well they play in S/T.

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Anderson flat out wins the job this year... throwing Ozzie's plans for leadoff back into chaos. If so, Brian would bat 9th, and whoever ends up winning the 2B job (Getz or Lillibridge) would likely be our leadoff hitter.

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Indications are that prized left-hander Aaron Poreda has an excellent shot at making the Opening Day roster, even if he doesn't beat out Clayton Richard or Jeff Marquez for the fifth starter's spot.

 

Guillen said his son Oney raved about Poreda when they played together in the minor leagues. Poreda also struck out five in three innings, including a called third strike on Colorado's Todd Helton, in a 'B' game last March.

 

"Pretty soon he'll be in the big leagues, and you will enjoy the way this kid pitches," Guillen said. "He's got great stuff. Whoever scouted this guy should be proud."

 

www.chicagotribune.com/sports

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QUOTE (BearSox @ Feb 2, 2009 -> 11:31 AM)
And if AJ does bat 2nd again, KW and Ozzie are even stupider then I thought.

AJ is not a prototypical #2 hitter, but he did reasonably well in that position last year. Its not as bone-headed as some are making it out to be, when you have a team full of big boppers like the Sox have. They don't really have great options for #1 and #2.

 

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There are two versions of answers to this question. Also, this is all assuming we don't do any more deals or signings, which is not at all written in stone...

 

Here is WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN:

 

CF Owens

C AJP

LF TCQ

DH Thome

RF Dye

1B PK

SS Ramirez

3B Fields

2B Getz/Lillibridge (platoon until someone emerges)

 

Bench: Getz/Lillibridge, Betemit, Anderson, Stewart/Armstrong/Lucy

 

Rotation: Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Marquez

 

Bullpen: Jenks, Dotel, Linebrink, Thornton, Russell, Richard, Carrasco

 

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Here is WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE:

 

2B Getz

SS Ramirez

LF TCQ

DH Thome

RF Dye

1B PK

C AJP

3B Fields

CF Anderson/Owens (platoon, but if Lillibridge could play CF, I'd want him there over either one)

 

Bench: Lillibridge (if Getz struggles, flip them), Betemit, Anderson/Owens, Lucy/Stewart (Lucy if healthy, if not, then Stewart)

 

Rotation: Buehrle, Floyd, Danks, Colon, Marquez

 

Bullpen: Jenks, Dotel, Linebrink, Thornton, Russell, Richard, Wassermann

 

NOTES: Broadway should be traded to the highest bidder if possible, if not, have him start in AAA again. Poreda should start at AAA to get those breaking pitches refined a bit more, but keep his arm stretched out for starting. Either one could come up quick if Marquez can't get it done, and neither one will benefit from bullpen time, IMO. Wise should be in AAA or gone. Cook should be re-signed for AAA if you can, and he should be the first OF replacement if necessary.

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 2, 2009 -> 11:43 AM)
AJ is not a prototypical #2 hitter, but he did reasonably well in that position last year. Its not as bone-headed as some are making it out to be, when you have a team full of big boppers like the Sox have. They don't really have great options for #1 and #2.

 

Our roster is going to be filled with stupid actually.

 

1.) Having one of Wise, Owens, or Anderson being a full time starter

2.) Having one of Wise or Owens potentiall being our leadoff hitter

3.) Having Pierzynski bat 2nd (this will be stupid no matter what. It was fine for a little bit last year when AJP was hot, but eventually AJP had to be moved back down)

4.) Having once again the slowest lineup in baseball (one of Thome, Dye, or Konerko had to be moved)

5.) Having 2 of Colon, Richard, Broadway, Poreda, or Marquez in the rotation

6.) Having what looks to be Corky Miller as our backup catcher (this one is still pending)

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