southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 @jonmorosi Jon Morosi #WhiteSox still listening to offers on Gavin Floyd, sources say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/whit..._medium=twitter White Sox Still Listening On Gavin Floyd By Tim Dierkes [January 17, 2012 at 9:15am CST] We haven't heard a ton about righty Gavin Floyd lately, but the White Sox are still listening on the soon-to-be 29-year-old, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. White Sox GM Kenny Williams has traded Carlos Quentin, Sergio Santos, and Jason Frasor this winter, but he's held onto his starting pitching and even extended John Danks. This winter top young starters Michael Pineda, Mat Latos, Gio Gonzalez, and Trevor Cahill have been traded, but all came with at least four years of team control. Floyd and crosstown hurler Matt Garza are in the next tier along with Jair Jurrjens, with two years of control at higher prices. Two years of Floyd will cost $16.5MM in salary plus prospects. Floyd is capable of 30 starts and a sub-4.00 ERA, so he's still plenty valuable and may represent a more reasonable commitment than a four-year deal for Edwin Jackson. The Yankees figure to be done rotation shopping, but the Red Sox, Blue Jays, and Pirates are potential fits in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 jonmorosi Jon Morosi #WhiteSox and #BlueJays have obviously had frequent trade dialogue since July. 2 minutes ago Gavin Floyd's price tag remains high, sources say. #WhiteSox and #BlueJays have discussed him off and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) Gavin Floyd's price tag remains high, sources say Nice to hear. It should be. KW does not have to move him and he is solid. This is not a fire sale. If the Sox can get a good deal and make the team better, then great. If not, I look forward to watching Gavin win for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 10:32 AM) Nice to hear. It should be. KW does not have to move him and he is solid. Yup, you certainly can't find a 96 era+ anywhere. They are incredibly rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 FarrellBall FARRELL BALL Still hearing Deck for Floyd is a possibility.. RT @jonmorosi Floyd's price tag is high. #WhiteSox and #Jays have discussed him off and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Make the Jays and Red Sox bid against each other, especially after Pineda just made the Yankees rotation good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I've a feeling that Floyd will be traded to Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Jon Morosi has no credibility unless he can prove he's married to a distant family member of Gavin Floyd's wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Good. Toronto matches up best with the Sox prospect-wise. Boston has some interesting pieces too. I'd like to see a deal get done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 11:35 AM) I've a feeling that Floyd will be traded to Baltimore. Does Baltimore have anything of value to trade to Chicago? Almost all of those starters they had never panned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 12:20 PM) Does Baltimore have anything of value to trade to Chicago? Almost all of those starters they had never panned out. They have some prospects of worth. Bundy won't (and can't) be traded. Machado is going nowhere. I'm sure one or two of Arrieta, Tillman, and Matusz are guys Kenny thinks Coop could fix. Though who knows how the O's view Matusz currently. Was a mess last year. Bucket noted Parker Bridwell in the past, but he's far from a centerpiece of a trade at this point. I'd like Kenny to stay away from the major league ready but struggling O's pitchers myself. Not sold on any of them. I like Britton, but he's staying put. Top 20 Orioles Prospects 2012 Edited January 17, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I know it would not be the White Sox way of doing things, but if Floyd was traded, I'd like him to go to the Pirates with the Sox paying part of his salary. If the Sox have their budget issues under control, then the return for Floyd would be much better the more the Sox pay. A cash strapped borderline contender like the Pirates may give up some good prospects. I'm not talking about paying all of his salary, but if the Sox were to pick up 1 million this year and 3 next year, I would imagine that would make the return more interesting. Something similar could happen with the Blue Jays if they really are hitting a spending limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If Floyd is traded, then these are the type of packages I'd like to see from the following teams: Toronto Blue Jays: Trade Floyd for a package of Drew Hutchison, Jake Marisnick, and Adeiny Hechevarria. (Swap Hechevarria for Deck McGuire if possible) Boston Red Sox: Trade Floyd for a package of Bryce Brentz, Will Middlebrooks, and Ryan Lavarnway. (Brentz is the guy I'd really like to acquire from the Red Sox, along with Lavarnway as a close 2nd. Lavarnway can replace Flowers in the depth chart) Baltimore: Not really interested in any players from the Baltimore system. :-\ Pittsburgh Pirates: Trade Floyd, Morel, and a low level prospct for Pedro Alvarez and Kyle McPherson. (I doubt the Pirates would be a good trade partner for the Sox because of how Floyd's contract being a little too pricey for them, but I'd LOVE to see Pedro Alvarez on the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) If Floyd is traded, then these are the type of packages I'd like to see from the following teams: Toronto Blue Jays: Trade Floyd for a package of Drew Hutchison, Jake Marisnick, and Adeiny Hechevarria. (Swap Hechevarria for Deck McGuire if possible) Boston Red Sox: Trade Floyd for a package of Bryce Brentz, Will Middlebrooks, and Ryan Lavarnway. (Brentz is the guy I'd really like to acquire from the Red Sox, along with Lavarnway as a close 2nd. Lavarnway can replace Flowers in the depth chart) Baltimore: Not really interested in any players from the Baltimore system. :-\ Pittsburgh Pirates: Trade Floyd, Morel, and a low level prospct for Pedro Alvarez and Kyle McPherson. (I doubt the Pirates would be a good trade partner for the Sox because of how Floyd's contract being a little too pricey for them, but I'd LOVE to see Pedro Alvarez on the Sox. If we got Lavarnway or Hechevarria for Floyd I'd flip s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:08 PM) If we got Lavarnway or Hechevarria for Floyd I'd flip s***. Hechevarria isn't anything special. Most don't think he will hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) If Floyd is traded, then these are the type of packages I'd like to see from the following teams: Toronto Blue Jays: Trade Floyd for a package of Drew Hutchison, Jake Marisnick, and Adeiny Hechevarria. (Swap Hechevarria for Deck McGuire if possible) Boston Red Sox: Trade Floyd for a package of Bryce Brentz, Will Middlebrooks, and Ryan Lavarnway. (Brentz is the guy I'd really like to acquire from the Red Sox, along with Lavarnway as a close 2nd. Lavarnway can replace Flowers in the depth chart) Baltimore: Not really interested in any players from the Baltimore system. :-\ Pittsburgh Pirates: Trade Floyd, Morel, and a low level prospct for Pedro Alvarez and Kyle McPherson. (I doubt the Pirates would be a good trade partner for the Sox because of how Floyd's contract being a little too pricey for them, but I'd LOVE to see Pedro Alvarez on the Sox. First 2 packages won't happen. They are both drastic overpays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:12 PM) Hechevarria isn't anything special. Most don't think he will hit. But if we got him and other stuff and he hit well, then we can do Marty's dream of trading Alexei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:13 PM) First 2 packages won't happen. They are both drastic overpays. That too. I'd flip s*** for either package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:13 PM) First 2 packages won't happen. They are both drastic overpays. I can dream, can't I? ;-) As for all the players in the Blue Jays' system, I really really really hope that if the Sox trade Floyd to them, that Drew Hutchison is included in the return package. I'm very high on Hutchison, I think he'll be better than Deck McGuire, and he dosnt have as much fanfare as McGuire, so I think Hutchison can be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 03:13 PM) First 2 packages won't happen. They are both drastic overpays. If we don't get a solid overpay for him, there's little to no reason to move him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:20 PM) I can dream, can't I? ;-) As for all the players in the Blue Jays' system, I really really really hope that if the Sox trade Floyd to them, that Drew Hutchison is included in the return package. I'm very high on Hutchison, I think he'll be better than Deck McGuire, and he dosnt have as much fanfare as McGuire, so I think Hutchison can be had. Hutchinson is a reasonable name that would headline a Floyd trade I'd imagine. I'd be fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 01:21 PM) If we don't get a solid overpay for him, there's little to no reason to move him. Agreed. I don't need to see 100 losses to call it a rebuild. Please forgive me, and my short-sightedness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 09:21 PM) If we don't get a solid overpay for him, there's little to no reason to move him. The novel thing to do is keep him and build up our starting staff. It seems everyone we have in the system now is pegged for relief. Pitching is the name of the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 02:13 PM) First 2 packages won't happen. They are both drastic overpays. I don't see why teams would give up much at all for Floyd. He's not even league average. If/when the Sox deal Floyd, there are going to be some upset posters here given what should be a pretty lackluster return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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