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Rick Hahn: We're still working hard on getting Harper/Machado Soxtalk:

To be fair, trying to pitch LH might be Fulmer's next move.

The fact you think Fulmer is a LHP is all I need to know regarding your posts lol

I have not posted much since signing up to post on this site, but I do read as many posts as possible. You have become one of my favorite posters since you joined the site. Your comments are almost exactly what a couple of scouts told me about Robert during the AFL season. I personally watched Robert play in 15 AFL games this past Fall and spoke to some scouts about him after games. In the AFL, he struck out only 13 times in 79 PA’s so there was no evidence of the “swing and miss” comment made by another poster. I know this is a small sample size and he did strike out at a much higher rate during the minor league season. However, the fact that he was battling through thumb injuries during the minor league season and his hand was still stiff for a fairly long time after the cast was removed, scouts told me his stiff hand hampered his swing & bat speed, in which he was beaten by fast balls and it also sapped his power. Apparently, the stiffness in his hand was finally gone when playing in the AFL as, like you said, he impressed everyone that I spoke with during the AFL. One scout said that he still needs to improve in recognizing off-speed pitches and some work on his swing so he is not yet a finished product offensively. But, as you said, he is still very young and I think the sky is the limit for this kid. I agree with you that he may have more raw talent than anyone in the our system. What I saw this Fall was a kid that can hit, hit for power (a blast of a HR in Mesa & another to CF at Camelback), tremendous speed on the bases and great range in the outfield and a very strong arm. In one game, he made a strong and perfect throw from fairly deep RF on one hop to the catcher that should have easily nailed the runner at home, but the catcher somehow missed the tag.

So, I have not posted in over 5 years and have been checking in from time to time ever since.... This whole Manny situation actually got me re-energized for the White Sox and the future to come. I had season tickets with them from 2000- 2010 and finally decided enough was enough when they raised my prices a the same time putting a Minor League club on the field. I don't feel as though a Manny signing would take place at SoxFest so I would not be let down if it did not happen this weekend. Where I do feel let down is that this organization has lost a number of true loyal fans over the course of a short time span. A move such as signing a Manny or Harper and being so open about the intentions of the organization to finally move into getting competitive and not just a team on the rebuild provided a lot of hope for the fringe fans that were sick of seeing garbage season after season. It is sad to think that back in the early 2000's I use to average 40 home games a season and to realize that I have stepped into the park less then 10 times in the past 5 seasons is unreal. To see Rick come out and basically say, we gave it our all and we will see how the cards fall is another major red flag with this organization. I feel as though every year over the past few years there have been tons of smoke and mirrors within the organization saying we going to spend big and be competitive and we end up, as always, with James Shields and his inability to make it out of the 4th inning without giving up 2-4 runs! Thank you for listening... I will now creep back into the shadows!

I've envisioned this in the past. Sox bring out Manny, but then Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton show up, knock out Hahn and take out the whole team. Kopech comes in and tried to make the save, but they beat him down and stomp on his surgically repaired elbow. Manny leaves with the Yankees. This Sunday at the Royal Rumble, it will be Ricky Renteria vs. Aaron Boone in a contract-on-a-pole match for the rights to Machado. When the ref gets knocked out and the Yankees fill the ring, "By Gawd, that's Bryce Harper's music!" Harper takes out the entire Yankees team. Machado enters the ring pissed off. Him and Harper stare each other down for 30 seconds. Then Manny smiles and shakes Bryce's hand. He quickly superkicks Aaron Boone and pulls the lifeless body of Ricky on top of Boone. Ricky, Machado and Harper celebrate, then rip the shirt of an unconscious Stanton and spray paint sWo on his back.

I'm not more or less optimistic about their chances after what Hahn said. I just hate the whole "progress cause we're at the table" crap they've said a few times of late.

Gotta love Hahn spreading fake San Diego rumors to maintain the SoxFest surprise!

You wrestling folks are weird.

Yes, he was a supplemental pick, and I said "true 1st RD pick". But more importantly....

Even though he got ridiculous at times, it was Hawk. It was great. Just thinking about no more Hawk makes me miss him. I took it for granted. Thanks for the memories, Ken.

Loved listening to him while I grew up and it was time for him to go. Get him the Frick award while he's alive.

but if he did that he wouldn't be THE BEAST

Wow, some on this board turn on their own in a hurry. Did anything Hahn or anyone else say today give any of you the impression we are not converting on a premium talent?!?

I don’t think they give a shit whether you believe them or not. Believe whatever it is you choose to believe. No one cares. Calling them liars or frauds or attention-seekers is not accurate, however. The sheer volume of stuff people tell both of them, particularly Dave, is incredible. He could create far more attention for himself than he does if he chose to.

Now looking back, eye balls from Dave , a " burner account" and a bunch of ominous posts from Rabbit sent us into a frenzy. I know the burner account is 99% false but everyone seems to trust Dave and Rabbit . Lets see what happens. There is still hope. But I for one am done with trusting vagueness and "scoops".

WSD is now what, like 1 for 25? Congrats on the Shields hit there pal ?

fuck 670 the score. Theo talks and they broadcast start to finish. rick does a rare press conference and they put out the first question bruce levine asked 15 minutes after Rick starts talking. what a joke

Jesus San Diego, you got Tatis, leave us the fuck alone.

Padres??

Remains fine as long as the White Sox are still willing to be the highest offer. They’ve been (allegedly) saying and/or acting as if they won’t raise their offer until someone beats it. This is just the inevitable offer that beat it.

It would definitely be more contact than a months worth of at bats...

The reaction at the opening ceremony to the announcement of the Kenny Lofton signing was bonkers. It was awesome. Never will forget that.

They also won more championships in October of 2005 than non-October months of 2005.

To evaluate the rumored return, you have to consider the fact that not everyone is a White Sox fan who hates every young player that has had an unsuccessful run in the majors. First-round picks who are in good health but with control problems have been the centerpiece of many a deal. And Bummer at this point shouldn't be considered a player without any value. Sox jerked him around last year just to get a non-return for Xavier Cedeno but Bummer pitched well in MLB and AAA. Lefty relievers that aren't horrible always have value and in this case he still has minor league options, which would be of interest to the Dodgers. Laz Rivera is pretty good for the third piece of a deal like this. I would like this trade for the Sox but it's not hard at all to imagine the Dodgers winning it. Pederson isn't far removed from a bust of a season and there are questions about whether he can play defensively in CF or every day as a hitter (needs platooned). Fulmer putting it together at all makes it very plausible that he alone is more valuable than Pederson over the period of time that the teams control the players. 6 years of solid relieving from Bummer could make it close as well. Rivera isn't likely to be some kind of star but also seems to have a good shot to come up and be a nice roleplayer some day.

Robertson backwards is Nostr...

Machado flew in overnight to sign a deal. He got off the plane, saw it was -10 outside and said "fuck this".

Honestly I'll probably take the strategy I took in 2016, which is to shut my mouth and let everyone else celebrate until it's May and we're sitting in 4th place wondering how our shiny new toys turned out to work so poorly. I will rip this org if they miss out on MM though and compliment them if they get it done. 100% promise.

Look at the career OBP's for the 3 new LH bats, versus RHP, which is dominant in our Division: Jon Jay .350 (His are actually better vs. LHP) Alonso. .346 Pederson. .355 You know me and my preference for LH hitters, especially now, with so few good southpaws in our Division. This would make me a very happy camper. LOL.

If it's anything else now, it's The G-Spot, and I won't have anything else.

J Michael Robertson JMR Jerry M Reinsdorf. Ive cracked the code

All I know is this: If the Sox pull this off, it will inspire fans to believe again. They will be able to say that a new era of White Sox baseball is here and they did it on their own terms. This fan base has taken so many Ls. The idea, as far fetched as it is, gives me chills.

It wasn't well received, and I doubt they expected it to be. But they tied it to renovations. That though , is nothing like a player signing. You didn't have Rosenthal and Heyman and Gammons calling around trying to find out if the Sox were going to change the name of their park, so that could easily be announced whenever.

The idea that the Sox wouldn't be willing to utilize Soxfest as an attention grabbing time period is absurd and false, and contra to history. Perfect example. When did the Sox announce the renaming of New Comiskey Park to US Cellular Field? When you have a concentrated group of both fans AND media in one place for the sole purpose of the White Sox, why wouldn't you take advantage of that? Just because you don't like Soxfest has nothing to do with the organization not taking advantage of a great chance to bite at the apple without sharing with any other sports teams in Chicago.

My girlfriend is meeting me in Chicago for Soxfest, and she just noted there is an M. Machado on standby on her flight. I laughed pretty hard. Before anyone goes crazy, she's flying in from DC.

Yes, why would a business that struggles to get attention and publicity utilize the one time per year when local sports media is concentrated almost exclusively on their organization to garner as much attention as possible? What a dumb idea.

I thought we put this dude in the Dan Clark camp a month ago

Why are we acting like SoxFest is the Super Bowl? It's a small event at a hotel in January for superfans and autograph hounds. I literally wouldn't go if someone gave me a free ticket. Why would the sox go through any production to do some kind of reveal of a trade or signing there?

When this thread was 198 pages, I asked "what happens first, Machado signs or this gets to 230 pages?" What a stupid question.

Manny jumps out of a cake at Soxfest

For those attending seminars. Also great pic of Robert, Basabe and Eloy at GRate last night

Dodgers Stadium at night the ball doesn't carry very well. Hopefully, several of those flyouts find their way to the first or second row at GRF.

The following players on the White Sox (minimum 100 PAs) had a lower strikeout rate than Joc Pederson last season: 1. Kevan Smith

Yeah if it's as poor as .228 it matters.

There’s a shocker.

Losing Laz Rivera would be a bummer. But not Aaron.