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Lord you can tell some of the newbs here who don't understand how this process works in the draft. Been like this for a while.9 points
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@bmags you've been killing it with the draft analysis and profiles (and moderation, I would assume), thank you4 points
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hard to watch this pitching staff other than Giolito Cooper has to go3 points
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Let's find a couple more Bryce Bush type lottery tickets tommorow.3 points
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Man, a lot of people in these game threads work really hard to suck any enjoyment out of anything. No wonder people don't come into these.3 points
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Yup. Gotta save money to buy guys out of their water polo commits.3 points
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I'm pretty okay with the draft so far. Added the BPA with the 1st rounder that also fits the opening contention window, and now insulating a top heavy system with toolsy projectable prep players.3 points
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Too bad this board wasn't around for the griping when the Sox refused to go for value and took an uninspiring and safe pick in Frank Thomas. Value is determined a few years from now. Not pre draft.3 points
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Hitters I like: Maurice Hampton - I think we've talked about him enough. Jordan Brewer - College popup guy that has more potential than most college guys still available, but limited track record. Could be a 20-20 CF. I honestly don't know how he is still available. Jake Sanford - Similar to Brewer, but against lesser competition. Has more power, but is probably LF instead of a possible CF like Brewer. Hudson Head - Good feel for the barrel and plus speed, but someone needs to get this kid a cheeseburger because it looks like a stiff wind could break him in half. If you can put some muscle on him, I feel like he could develop good power. I guess the questions are how much bigger can he get and what will that do to his speed. Toolsy upside pick favorite. Dasan Brown - Young Canadian outfielder that has good twitch, bat speed and foot speed. Struggled a bit this year, but was also facing teams with professionals so he was probably just overmatched. Toolsy upside pick favorite. Edouard Julien - He is a 20 year old, sophomore eligible college player than could possibly play second, hit 17 homers as a freshmen, broke Frank Thomas freshman record for RBI (that doesn't really mean much, but its a fun connection), and is only 7 months older than Brett Baty. He has real questions about his contact rates, but he has power and more upside than most college guys considering the only reason he is in the draft is because of a loophole and really he should be a younger junior next year. Colin Barber - HS hitter with average or better tools across the board. Needs to refine his approach because he guesses at times which leads to swing and miss. Hopefully that is something he gets rid of when he is no longer trying to impress scouts. I like his bat speed and I think he could have some real power if he got better hip activation with his swing. Carter Young - Probably going to Vandy, but he is going to be a guy we are talking about in three years as a guy with good contact and command of the zone who could probably stick in the middle of the dirt, has average power, good hands, great leadership qualities. He was one of the only non-seniors on Team USA 18U in 2017, but then didn't do as well in 2018 and scouts kind of wrote him off and then he went back to the northwest where its more difficult to get looks at him. Dominic Canzone - Dinged for his weird swing, but tied school record for consecutive games getting on base with 51. Developed power this year when he added more loft to his swing. I think he could have solid average and power, though he is limited to left. James Beard - Fastest guy in the draft. Truly elite speed. If he can hit at all, he could be a scary threat with his ability to steal bases. Basically a second change at developing Adam Engel, but maybe even faster. Pitchers I like: Spencer Jones - Tall lefty that you can dream on. Might be too late to get him away from college. Is also a good hitter, so he has that as a backup if he can't make it as a pitcher. Tyler Dyson - Could have been another first round pitcher from UF if he had performed, but he struggled this year but came on in the last few weeks. If there is some actual change in that time the scouts can identify, he could be a steal even in the third round. Kyle Brnovich - Maybe the single best breaking ball in the class. With the trend of throwing much more breaking pitches instead of fastballs, I think he can get away with an average fastball by having a great breaking ball he can manipulate so hitters get different looks at the same pitch. I could see him being similar to Giolito in that he needs to refine his delivery to repeat it better, but once he does he could have a similar jump. Garrett Stallings - No plus pitch, but a 4 pitch mix of offerings he can command and that he tunnels and sequences well. I feel like he is the guy that performs better than his stuff would indicate and historically we wouldn't know why but it might be explained with modern tech. Hayden Wesneski - Funky pitching angle makes his sinker/slider combo play well off each other. I feel like he is the type that spends an offseason developing a third offering to tunnel with those two and suddenly he is untouchable. Andrew Schultz - College reliever with high spin rate 4 seamer that touches 101. Iffy slider and no third pitch, but I'll take that fastball and let the coaches work on developing a complimentary pitch. Noah Song - At some point having to wait 2 years is going to be worth it. I just don't know if that point for us is before it is for a team like the Dodgers or Yankees.3 points
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it was low, didn't have any of the zone. was an incredible take.2 points
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Terrific Drew. What a better way to start than to take the allotted slot amount2 points
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I certainly don't blame HS guys for asking for overslot deals. They have leverage, they can just go to college instead. They're also typically fairly straightforward in communicating their rough $$$ expectations ahead of time, so teams usually know what they're getting into, more or less, and can plan accordingly. On the flip side, teams aren't shy about shafting college seniors, who have no leverage and end up with underslot deals. The HS guys are sort of the other side of the coin. It's a business, for both the players and the teams.2 points
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Patel is now my favorite draft pick solely because he's Indian2 points
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Whoa...wait what? Bradley 3:19 Love the James Beard pick for the White Sox on name alone. Outcome likely to be Terrance Gore? Billy Hamilton? Hopefully more? Keith Law 3:20 Same org that turned Micker Adolfo from a workout phenom into an actual hitter. I give them a good chance here.2 points
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Nate 3:13 Keith, it is very strange to see the White Sox drafting players high up on your board. Does this indicate a change in strategy or are you secretly advising Rick and Nick? Keith Law 3:13 Definitely not advising them, and I don't think they need my help either. Really strong draft for them so far.2 points
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5th round senior pick was a must, likely to help sign Dalquist. I'd bet they look to the college ranks in round 62 points
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If Beard makes it to the majors in a bench capacity its still a really good pick.2 points
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This thread is going to be a shit show. ? *Was and still is a Madrigal fan*2 points
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Do they honestly think us sad, sad, folk who are logging on to MLB DOT COM are unaware of what happened on day 1?2 points
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There is a belief that Song will be taken today. It's not signability so much with him, it's that he has a military obligation being a Navy guy.2 points
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MLB: Day 2 starts at 12:30 PM. Also MLB: But not picks. No, we're going to recap Day 1, interview a Twins draft pick and drag on some more before getting right to the picks again. Dear God they are bad at presenting this.2 points
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Last one in before we start. I like this guy's writeup Michael Curialle JSerra Catholic HS, San Juan Capistrano, Calif.SS Notes: Ht: 6-3 | Wt: 198 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: UCLA Scouting Report: Curialle followed Chase Strumpf and Royce Lewis as the starting shortstop at JSerra High School and led the Lions to consecutive Boras Classic South tournament championships the last two seasons. This spring, he finished one hit shy of tying Lewis’ school single-season hits record. Curialle is an impressive blend of physicality and athleticism. He’s strong and broad-chested at 6-foot-3, 200 pounds and has big raw power, but he’s also a plus runner who glides around the infield remarkably well. He makes all the plays at shortstop and also has the athleticism for center field and third base. Curialle’s best tool is his plus-plus arm. He makes every throw from deep in the hole, cuts down runners on long relays and has touched 93 mph on the mound despite little pitching experience. Curialle swings and misses a bit too much, which is what prevents him from being a potential first-rounder, but he has the tools to project as an average or better hitter. A potential five-tool talent, Curialle is committed to UCLA and will command a hefty signing bonus.2 points
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He's a typical projectable high school right hander. Hopefully he develops better than Spencer Adams.2 points
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Thompson was 49 on BA. He's a scouts pick for sure, but there are a lot of durability reasons to like him vs a traditional HS pick. He's been throwing easy 90s for years, not a sudden uptick. He has good size and great athleticism, and has good feel though inconsistent results with spin. So, a guy that needs development. But with the 2nd round I'll take it. That's a package that doesn't exist in this system.2 points
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I haven't seen anyone do this analysis in a couple years but I don't think the stats have changed much since 2014. Prior to a player hitting free agency, on average for a #3 pick, you expect the player to accumulate ~7 fWAR. That's of course the average of guys who bust completely, Carlos Rodons who are ok but fall apart, and your Manny Machados who are excellent. But let's focus on the average for a moment. We have Vaughn's control for 6 years. What would it take for him to put up ~7 fWAR? At 1b, that's not that far off from the 2018-2019 Jose Abreu pace so I'm going to use his numbers. If Vaughn can put up a .810-.820 OPS and is moderate at fielding, that's a 110 or so wRC+, if he did that for 6 years he would be an average or slightly above average #3 pick. How much value would the White Sox find in having another guy putting up current Jose Abreu numbers in their lineup? I'd say...a lot. That would make him a top 5 first baseman in the AL. We might not be great at that position, but we'd be getting good solid production there and we'd be doing it cheaply. More than that, maybe one of the guys like Abrams will turn out to outhit Vaughn, but that will probably take a few years. The White Sox have a timetable here, Giolito, Moncada, and Lopez hit free agency after 2023, Anderson after 2024. If Abrams turns into a great player at age 22 or 23, that's great, but that's 4 years down the road. We are going to have to pay premium prices for a RF and a left-handed starting pitcher this offseason to fill those roles because we hope this team can make some noise during the next 4 years. If Vaughn is just an average #3 pick, paying a premium price to get him into the lineup sooner is no different than paying a premium price for a free agent right now, and no different from talking about trading Abrams in 2 or 3 years to fill in a hole. If we can get more than that .810 OPS out of Vaughn, that's even better obviously, but I think that's a reasonable goal, and if he does that then we've just added a solid piece to the middle of the order and filled one hole on a contending team. So if people want to make the case that he won't do that, I'll listen, but there's big value for a team in the White Sox's position to get production sooner rather than later even if his ceiling turns out to be less than Abrams. Off topic...OMG how good would last year's top free agent signing have looked providing balance in the middle of this order? 1. Robert 2. Anderson 3. Abreu/Vaughn 4. Jiminez 5. Harper 6. Vaughn/Abreu 7. Moncada 8. McCann/Collins 9. Happ/Dozier/Madrigal/Other2 points
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And Eloy is a bat only guy. Robert clearly is not. Even if Robert posts a 700ish OPS his rookie year in MLB, he will still be a very productive player due to his defense and baserunning2 points
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He is actually hitting much better in Birmingham as opposed to on the road. .382/.417/.632 in Bham .283/.345/.491 on the road2 points
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Take away Robert's first two games in Birmingham and his average would be over .350. He's exceeded my wildest expectations for 2019, and my expectations were fairly high tbh2 points
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