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I'd probably put a decent wager on the White Sox signing 0 of those guys.

Love how people are chastising posters for reacting to a 2 month sample because they had a single good game.

Good lord. They didn't give a 30+ year old SP $13 million for a year where they have no chance again. Calm down.

A left handed middle of the order bat is not the most important thing in the history of all lineups. Teams win without them.

I think Bumgarner could have a late career resurgence. Though, Farhan Zaidi is there so I'd expect better info to get to Bumgarner, and maybe he's just stubborn. But I hate the sinker/cutter mix he has moved to, and maybe there is a lack of control to it, but he just pounds the middle of the zone with them. Everything is down, and it diminishes his curveball. He still has great spin, it just seems like he overreacted to the loss of velo on his fastball.

derek dietrich

Absolutely sincere. I can’t believe people continue to under estimate the abilities of Avi. He came up young and struggled early but continues to get better. He will win multiple MVP awards before he retires and certainly be enshrined in Cooperstown. People lament the trading of Tatis Jr. but letting Avi walk for nothing will be viewed as a much larger mistake in the long term.

Luis Robert has to take a shit Twitter: Definitely a broken back or something

Yeah, Hahn already wasted enough money on garbage like Nova ($9M), Alonso ($9M), Herrera (2-years / $18M), Jay ($4M), and whatever they had to pay Santana to leave after 3 starts. Jesus, that’s $40M+ total wasted in one offseason. But Keuchel at 1-year / $13M for the Braves is a nice deal. Hopefully, Hahn will learn from this going forward, start signing difference makers over veteran has-been’s, and improve on his FA signings. But I sincerely doubt it.

He pull a Paul Pierce?

Starting to wonder about twitter.

Collins .261 in AAA with a .907 OPS. Like it.

"Andrew Vaughn has raw power? I'll show them why @Lillian will love me!"

He is clearly pissed that Vaughn was drafted. Dude has damn near hit more homers this week than his entire minor league career.

I think they'll land Glass and Gladney for sure. Trenkle and Krogman are the two I'm waiting for. I'm doing the tracker updates this year though so feel free to let me know if anyone hears anything.

The Cubs are in a place where the Sox hope to be in a few years. The Cubs ponied up for Lester before their contention window opened up. The Sox had the opportunity to do the same with Corbin, Machado, or Harper but walked away once they saw the asking price. Where is all this pitching in the Sox minors? If we have so much of it, why are we seeing dudes like Nova, Banuelos, and Covey as mainstays in the rotation?

Moncada is on pace to have a 5.3 WAR season. He has been really good.

The Cubs are putting their $ where their mouth is unlike the Sox so far. The Cubs also spent before their contention window was open unlike the Sox. This offseason is very pivotal if the Sox plan on competing anytime soon. Will the $$$ be spent?

No, it doesn’t mean that. You are loading your opinion and presenting it as fact. Dude that’s not a fact they are rushing him or is it fact they are promoting him because of his line. Everything you said is 100% pure speculation, which is fine. I tend to think Madrigal is a guy who will have a similar line no matter what level he plays at: close to .300 BA, close to .350 OBP and a who cares slugging %. He will still be successful in most base stealing attempts. He will score tons of runs. If somebody fast bats in front of him, there will be a lot of 1st to 3rds. He will be the guy everybody loves up in the 9th because you know the ball is being put in play. He wasn’t drafted for some OPS line. People gotta come around to that. Now if he doesn’t do the shit I mentioned we’ll have problems.

Everyone was so focused on Machado as the perfect fit that they lost sight of the fact that Harper was the better fit for this team all along. Sox really missed out on Harper at a reasonable rate of ~$25M AAV to boot.

On a bright note...Covey has had 3 respectable starts in a row.

Needed to find an adult to fly with him

If they didn't send Giolito down last season, they're not sending Lopez down this season. /thread

Andrew Vaughn should wear #99 in spring training. I'd find it comical, especially when playing Cleveland That being said, there's a chance the kid has never seen that movie

Dumb stupid twitter

The White Sox play a horrible brand of Baseball, hahn is the general manager, these are his players, and I can care less if he is a Harvard grad, hahn is a horrible general manager.

The Twins have shown you can win without signing premium free agents and finding solid mid tier talent. The problem is Hahn is not good at finding the mid tier talent like the Twins have found.

Keuchel just signed with the Braves. JR + Hahn are not going to sign any premium free agents. This so called rebuild is going to be done as cheaply as possible. Hopefully the White Sox farm system will produce enough good players and this team can start winning again sometime in the near future.

Who slated him as an all star? You said he did nothing. He raked over the last 20 games and got promoted.

I don't know why this front-office Kenny should be given a pass. The past decade also happened and the Executive VP of Baseball Futility is still around. The only thing the print media reports about him is he and his wife -- "one of Chicago's true power couples" (gag) -- sold their townhouse. References to him in electronic media attempt to legitimize him. This forum is a great outlet for a frustrated fan base. I appreciate the optimistic posts but I say keep up the front-office-bashing (I do my best to contribute). The negativity is harder to process but it serves a purpose. Something along the lines of those who don't know history are bound to repeat it.

Call him hide n seek cuz ready or not here he comes

Batting average on balls in play. Generally speaking it can be 1 of 2 things - it's a combination of how hard a guy hits a ball and how lucky he's been. If a guy has the highest BABIP in the league with minimal plate appearances (cough James McCann cough) that is often a sign that he's gotten unusually lucky in having balls that were hit in play turn into hits. If a guy hits the ball right at people for a month, he will have a low BABIP, if those same bloop hits fall then he will have a high BABIP. Guys who hit the ball right on the nose will often be slightly elevated in that stat, making it a little hard to discern luck from performance, but most big leaguers will fall somewhere in the range of .270-.330 by the end of the year. Someone like Moncada might be a little bit higher because everything he hits turns into a double off the wall since his contact is so hard. Someone like Harper might be a little low because they ground into the shift. Someone like Madrigal might be a little low since his contact is so weak. If you compare 1 year to another for a player, the low BABIP for Anderson in 2018 could be that he just had an unlucky year and that given enough time it swung the other way in April of this year. Anderson's BABIP in April was .435, so you could certainly say that no matter how good of contact he was making, he was likely to come dramatically down on his batting average from where he was at the end of April, because about 25% of his hits were just falling in by luck compared to the best hitters in the league.

Let's go Madrigal! And man does W-S have even less to follow prospect wise especially on the hitting side. Pretty much just Steele Walker (although personally I like Dedelow).

Robert-Madrigal at the top. Tarp off the field.

My father was a librarian, eat a bowl dude.

He did not immediately release him, he immediately traded him for Carl Everett.

The makings of a pretty good Sox team are right there. It will just require JR to open up the wallet.

I don't think that it is out of the question.

I've been on the Bumgarner ship since we started asking who we want for next year, but I'd settle for Quintana. Need a lefty.

If teams offer to pay for HS kids College if they sign, I don't know why more HS kids don't sign right away. If I knew I could go to college for free in a year or two if I sucked, I'd take the Signing bonus money and give it a shot, knowing I had free college as a backup. Why not try to live your dream? I'd imagine academic atrophy for guys that aren't that bright is a consideration.

I spoke to Krogman's dad yesterday. He said he's taking the week to make a decision

If**** Madrigal gets to the White Sox. We really penciling this guy in? He didn't do anything special in A+. Let's pump the brakes here

Hahn won’t sign any quality real free agents. But what he will do is trade for veterans, primarily those with one-two years left until free agency who had fluke years. That’s what he did the last time, he has no sense that it failed so miserably ( after all he was rewarded for that failure) so will likely do it again. In fact, he did a taste of that last offseason. He’ll only trade second-tier prospects but they will suddenly blossom into first tier once they get on another team

The Cubs are in a completely different situation than we are. Also, when the Cubs spent, they needed starters bad. The White Sox are unlikely to follow that model as they actually have pitching in the minors. And Heyward was a bad signing. Spare us the Cubs comparison. We might have to wait a little bit longer than the Cubs did, but that's the way things go sometimes. Stop comparing the White Sox to the Cubs.

What does the Cubs' spending have to do with ours? They are at a completely different part of their window than we are.

I can’t stand when Steve Stone says that a closer’s ERA doesn’t matter.

It's a good thing that relief pitcher ERA doesn't matter.

Gio is a lock unless he goes in the tank soon. Moncada will make it. Baseball will reward a young star. That will be it unless Abreu gets in. No way on Colome or McCann. And nah on Timmy. I guess Timmy could replace Moncada.

Law mock people. Law mock.... Oops. Wrong thread.

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