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There are relievers who look like toast one year and then look better the next year. Holland got off to an awful start with St. louis last year and has turned around to be the reliever we should have signed this year instead of Herrera. See how he is next May and then we'll talk.

Your ability to put words in his mouth is quite impressive.

Like who? Blake Rutherford? Or quickly scroll through the list of HS kids that worked out and say one of them. Also, at various points in time, all three of those guys were top 100 prospects. Hansen lead the minors in strikeouts in 2017 and Burdi was probably the premier relief prospect in the game before his TJS (FG loved the kid). Arguing against their draft strategy is fair game, but to say they punted away an entire draft is beyond idiotic. Two years ago, this draft class looked like an absolute haul when you also factor in Lambert, Flores, & Hamilton. You are using revisionist theory to fulfill your negativity agenda.

"The bust" with a hit.

Plus it’s been barely any games. It is worth giving him time to learn etc. the overreactions some people have on this board is just crazy. Especially for a team that isn’t contending this year.

Dude, that's a #1 draft pick Catchers with a career +.800 OPS in the minors. I need a little bit of what you're smoking, at least would make this game a little more enjoyable.

Nice AB by Reed.

Hard to get ready when you are in literally once every 5 games.

*Turns on game* ..... Oh *Turns off game*

Trade Madrigal for controllable starter

All jokes should be told.

I'm not a MLBer obviously but if someone called in off waivers was batting cleanup after batting 220 in AAA I'd kinda question WTF my manager was doing.

This is a joke that should not have been told.

Per Kodi Medeiros's MILB page these are his splits this season Starter 0-8, 7.75 ERA, 40.2 IP, 57 H, 35 ER, 7 HR, 8 HBP, 26 BB, 38 K, 2.04 WHIP Reliever 3-0, 1.46 ERA, 24.2 IP, 9 H, 4 ER, 2 HR, 1 HBP, 14 BB, 25 K, 0.93 WHIP

Outside of Semien who developed nicely. I don‘t lose sleep over the other guys. Sox got a comp pick out of the deal as well.

I believe his ERA is possibly under 2.00 since he moved to the pen about 18-20 innings ago.

This trade would make me so angry that ironically it would make me want to go home and beat up my wife ?. I’d not do this from a value or a moral stand point.

This thread is an absolute blast with some legendary hot takes. I skimmed through pages 45 to 55 and here are some of my favorite posts. Good thing Tommy Longo isn’t around to read his “awesome” takes, although One Dog has seemed to take his spiritual place.

Now, if I was Brad Pitt, I'd get so much ass.

Robert will get one more at bat for Charlotte in bottom 9

Add Herrera to your list.

This.

We're destined to get Pederson. His name has appeared too many times on the this board and in media the last few years for Hahn to not get KW's man.

With the #10 pick in that draft I would have gone with a high upside prep talent. The Sox used their first three picks on Zach Collins, Zach Burdi, and Alec Hansen. They basically punted away an entire draft.

He took the first 3 pitches off the plate nicely. Also, Charlotte is in nbc sports Chicago tomorrow

You as well. I'm ready to report for reeducation camp. I will only go though if I can bring my brother in law and best friend with me.

You are entirely missing the point here and quite frankly are wrong. OneDog called Collins a 5th round talent. I said every major publication had a 1st round grade on him at the time of the draft and that’s a factual statement. MLBPipeline had him ranked #14, Baseball America had him ranked #16, and Keith Law had him ranked #18. He was a consensus 1st round talent at the time whether you like the pick today or not.

They suck. No doubt about it. It will be interesting to see what we do at the deadline. I honestly see one positional hole on this team going forward and that is RF. But the Sox need to spend like crazy on rotation and bullpen arms in the offseason.

Are you the leader of the Sox Talk thought control syndicate?

Name one major publication that didn’t have a first round grade on the kid? Oh that’s right, there won’t be one and you’re simply full of shit as usual.

OK, now you're just being a troll.

A 24 year old with an .800 career OPS in AAA!? Well, that changes everything. .800 OPS... and in AAA? Man oh man. This guy is something special. lol I thought the guy hitting .040 with a K% just under 50% looked overmatched. But now that I hear about this MAMMOTH .800 AAA OPS. Nobody has ever failed in the big leagues after eye popping numbers like that. I was definitely a fool for suggesting that the guy who might as well be swinging a wiffle ball bat up there looked overmatched. I must be so F'ING high! Maybe if we gave him full-time AB's - he could get that batting average up to .100. We'll call it... getting above the "Zack Collins line".

He probably will. He just needs another 500 or so at bats in AAA.

and he wears #24.

chill out internet tough guy. Not all the prospects are going to pan out or hit their ceilings. JR is going to have to spend some big $$ in FA or this rebuild is never going to work.

by the 5th inning amirite?

Can't get here fast enough to suit me.

He is untouchable for my money.

He did spend money. Hahn chose to use it on Alonso, Nova, Santana and Jon Jay. That's the problem. Maybe one day JR will do something about it.

My god, Collins looking like Adam Engel at the plate. He is nowhere near ready.

Dat Moncada range.

Last in the league right? This organization is so incompetent when it comes to analytics.

Sox might want to fire whoever is responsible for their defensive positioning scouting.

Covey is gaaaaahbage

Reinsdorf still shuffling Titanic deck chairs. Spend some damn money, man. Start stabilizing this pitching staff.

I guess you didn‘t get the memo: Nobody at AA is a prospect anymore because they had slow starts. Might as well release Sheets and Rutherford.

I was just thinking the same thing. No need to rush him. The last 50% of games he’s played in AAA, he’s averaging only one extra base hit per game.

It would make more sense to bring him up soon to learn at the mlb level so that he van go into the offseason with fixing tweaks in mind. I get the year of control argument, but we have a chance to make some serious noise next year. If this was last year I wiuld be for holding him down, but meaningful baseball is soon, very soon.

There is no such thing as a troll with over 34,000 posts. It's hard to stay that involved in your favorite team much less one you are just goofing around with. Secondly, I think Greg has plenty of company as the type of fan who wants to try and win every game in every year no matter how unlikely. Rebuilds are really hard to sit through. Lastly, none of us like it when our favorite player or players are traded. We like our guys no matter what. They may be bums but they are our bums. Like most of you I thought the rebuild was necessary and past do. I hated to trade Sale and Q...and to a lessor degree Eaton. Trading the established good guys is how you get multiple young good guys in return. We are now at the final stages and we are all anxious to get to the winning stage. These final trades or acquisitions are going to be interesting as we will get a glance into Hahn's thinking. I encourage you to get off Greg's back. He's a White Sox fan...I'm a White Sox fan...you all are White Sox fans. There aren't that many of us so we need to stick together.

Who cares about what Moncada is doing? Javier Baez has a new tattoo, a new tattoo.