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Anthony Miller not half as good as his mouth says he is

Ok boomer.

I love Donaldson's response.

Roquan Smith having a hell of a game.

Please cut Mitch and sign kaep

He put up a .950 OPS in AAA this year...not much different than Robert this year or Jiminez last year. He hit .280 this year in AAA at 24. He hit .360 in his senior year in Miami. The idea that his ceiling is .220 with 25 homers and he can't catch seems wildly pessimistic. An elite batting eye added to the natural maturation process would suggest he could be an elite hitter. Maybe we've used up our unbridled optimism on Robert and Madrigal but if we're going to dream it doesn't seem crazy to dream that Collins could be very good.

Thanks for taking the bait. Those were Grandal's numbers in his first 2 seasons. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/grandya01.shtml Disclaimer! Ahh! Upon further review, those were his numbers in his 24 (108 PA) and 25 seasons. His second full season (26) was .234/.353/.403 The point remains the same though. Grandal and Collins are similar style players (both taken in the 27th round, then went to Miami to be taken in the 1st!). They will likely be low BA but high OBP players with some power. Maybe some patience is required for Collins.

I don't want any part of trading Collins. You still don't know what he is at the plate yet because of terrible managing.

Wouldn't that be something to have back to back seasons in which a MLB GM is banned for life

The recent article is on the related signs from the dugout, less catchers right? Makes sense they’d focus on that pre playoffs. Really hard to believe that the coppy could get banned for fudging player costs, but this will just be a fine. If they get anything on lihnow knowing or directing, I think he’s out.

I always thought Zack Collins was going to be the new Ted Simmons. Simmons was not a great fielding catcher (Dwar of 5.0 TOTAL over 21 seasons) but he was a very good hitter. He had a nine year stretch of putting up nearly 5 WAR per season. Collins hasn't shown the batting average but has shown more power and walks than TS. What has stalled my enthusiasm though is...why did the Sox only have him catch 50 games in Charlotte? Why did he only catch 10 games in the majors last year of the 25 games he played in? It seems like last year was the year you really wanted to find out what guys could do before moving all the chips in. Seems like the White Sox are telling us they don't believe he can catch...or maybe they were telling us they love McCann...or maybe Collins had a sore knee...or maybe the pitchers have said they hate throwing to Collins? Who knows. Still the idea of paying Collins league minimum to be DH and back up 1B and maybe catch 40 or 50 games for the next few years while putting up an .850 OPS seems pretty valuable. Again...just turning 25 so he could improve as a catcher in a year or two and then at 27 step in as full time C?

Hello dere, Bob.

I think in a perfect world, you find a way to give him every day at bats without relying on him. If you sign Grandal, let Collins be the every day DH. If he struggles, you can slowly give him less at bats (start DHing McCann or whoever else might be hitting well...perhaps the guys who started at 2B or CF before Madrigal and Robert are up).

i don't understand why he wasn't playing every day last year. Yeah he struggled but sox weren't playing to win and they could have let him battle through it and see what you have got. I they had given him 300 PAs they would know more now

What about danks?

It's not worth it if you don't get him long term. That's trading assets for nothing. No extension, no deal. He can be had for just money next year if Boston asks too much.

Platoon him between C/1B/DH. Sign Grandal and Collins can be the 3rd C who spells Abreu at 1B and is primarily the DH.

I feel like three or four of the most frequent posters on Soxtalk hate him for some reason. So there is a general feeling that hes a bust based on a handful of loud voices. It does seem like the organization has given up on him being a catcher...but power, LH and amazing OBP should make him an attractive part of the team. I'm excited for him.

1. Have a lack of OBP players on the team. 2. Have a lack of left handed hitters with promising power on the team. 3. Trade said player who potentially provides both. Would be so White Sox I'll say that.

I think they use him as a trade chip.

Shows how much attention I’ve been paying lately ?

Yelich was good before Milwaukee, goes to Milwaukee and becomes MPV caliber....... just sayin

Yu absolutely was accusing him, as he pointed out earlier in the day a team doing this

Citing Balta’s ridiculously pessimistic opinions as proof of the rebuild failing may be an all-time low for Soxtalk.

Unfortunately, still wearing the helmet without the HANS device.