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What? Lopez is a 2 win starter with tons of untapped potential and four years of team control. Plenty of teams would have interest in him. To say a worthless player like Reddick who is under control for only one more season is the best we could get (even with some pay subsidy) is quite frankly a stupid take.

I don't think Robert will be ready this season. He is still too raw and strikeouts way too much.

Only this thread?

Because they're all cheaters.

I'm not trying to get anyone to go away. I'm trying to get you to stop repeating yourself and ruining one of the few threads on this site that I honestly love. I can't even parse through this thread anymore without coming across you firing people and benching people and throwing out hot take after hot take. I avoid multiple threads for the same reason. The baseball offseason is long as fuck and now the bears suck and I have to deal with that too as well as you saying the same shit all week. Come up with another fucking talking point for Christ sake, I would rather read GoSox05 passive aggressive packers shit

Your posting sucks, end of story. You ruin threads

excuse me, theyve been renamed: the houston asterisks thank you

My "I still like the White Sox but Rick Hahn really is the Anti-Christ" clique will be meeting across the hall.

This board is becoming fucking toxic. We're all supposed to be having fun here and we're all cannibalizing each other. I feel like nobody can even make a post anymore on any forum without being attacked. Those that feel optimistic get attacked, those that feel pessimistic get attacked, those that are neutral get attacked. All have valid points. Let's stop fucking eating each other and have fun. This is supposed to be fun. It's really not anymore. I feel like I'm on a political board, that's how bad it is here. Everyone is divided into cliques, and they spew vitriol at anyone who disagrees. I used to really enjoy posting here and I don't anymore.

In this thread, people with no actual knowledge of any player's true value on the open market, will make absolute declarations about every player's value on the open market.

I don't even think it would take both. Just Lopez. Nimmo's been hurt and only had 1 good year. Lopez has more team control than Nimmo. You're over valuing Nimmo and under valuing Lopez.

So are you if you think the Mets would give up Nimmo for those 2.

You're high. I usually agree with you, but I think Lopez could get Nimmo in a 1 for 1 deal.

+100. Pretty sure all 29 clubs would have interest in Lopez if Sox were looking to trade him. He's been a top 15 pitcher in the AL both of the last two seasons per fWAR. Sox fans wildly undervalue him because he's been wildly inconsistent, and that for sure limits his value. But he's still a rock solid back of the rotation pitcher, with upper middle rotation upside, under control for 4 seasons - that has value.

So you're basing this on a comment section that is publically available, got it. Actual executives and reporters are saying the hammer is coming down.

On MLBTR, the majority of comments were people saying if you expect more than a fine you're setting yourself up for disappointment

I’d say that’s a good starting point, but also the forfeiture of international bonus pool and suspensions and/or bannings. They really have to make an example of these guys.

Is this where we sit at a table and pat ourselves on the back for being at the table?

Punch and pie.

Poop.

More room on the front page for your ABreu threads. Just looking out for you.

ron, he's not trying to moderate, just being a nice guy. As far as Tsutsugo, I think he could be a platoon RF with Castellanos.

I'm in.

No.

Should this have been in all CAPS?

Nimmo has 3 years of control left, was a successful first round pick, was hurt for 1 year, and was a 4+ win player in 2018. If we traded a guy like that for a 4th starter even with some ceiling, I'd be very angry, unless the guys medicals were terrible. If we traded pre-2019 Rodon for a Lopez and a Dunning equivalent, I'd have assumed they thought Rodon was likely to get far worse and they needed to dump him before more injuries happened.

Not a huge fan of most of Joel Sherman's ideas. Dom Smith? Homer Bailey? Yuck

It's not even terrible for the Mets. Nimmo for Lopez makes sense for them as they have an outfield glut and are losing Wheeler. And I wouldn't trade Lopez for Mazara. That deal is awful for the Sox. That's a pretty even trade in terms of value.

Assuming that other teams are likely to make bad moves is usually not a reasonable way to plan for these deals, but as long as from now on everyone says "And yes this deal is terrible for them but the Mets are stupid enough to do it" when they say something like that then I can't complain.

Maybe if the Mets know that Nimmo has a degenerative condition and won't ever play again.

He's not worthless, he's worth more than a Mazara or a Polanco, but not a whole lot more than that. Seriously, what exciting player that can actually start are people thinking they'd get for him?

Well when they know what pitches are coming I'm sure that helps their hitters

Despite Lopez's crappy year, he still had 2.3 fWAR last year. If someone believes they can get more out of him. Dunning I could see being worse than that, but I still think that Lopez holds more value than you think.

Usually then Passan follows, if that happens, I like the odds. For some reason I always get Zack Wheeler and Dylan Bundy confused, which is why I didn't like the interest as much. I'm ok with going 5/100 for Wheeler as a #2. Wheeler was dealt for Beltran.... Bundy was never dealt. I'll get it one day.

Firing a coach after he has a half a bad season or even after one bad season is something teams like the Browns and Dolphins do all the time.

Yea I know, you fire everyone after two years if not sooner. We know. You don't have to keep repeating yourself

On December 6th of 2006 we may acquire Gavin Floyd from the Phillies for Freddy Garcia and a player to be named later.

**shots to the other Bulls players**.

No.

you've completed "6 hour troll" achievement please move onto the 6 year one currently held by Greg.

Alex Speier of the Boston Globe released a book recently on the Red Sox called Homegrown. Detailing the end of Theo through the DD era. Lots of info on Moncada/Kopech in there and an entire chapter dedicated to the Sale trade. Hahn was asking for Benintendi ++ at the deadline. The week of the meetings, Hahn called and said they'd probably be trading Sale. He asked for Moncada. Then he called back the next day I believe the day for the meetings and asked for Kopech. They were in discussions with other teams too. Hahn pushed for Devers as 3rd piece. Dombrowski wouldn't do it because he knew nobody could offer Moncada/Kopech as headliners. When Hahn called back the night before the trade and asked for Basabe/Diaz, DD agreed basically instantly.

Might make an interesting platoon partner with Avi.

Daniel Gafford showing Boylen what a dumbass he's been by not playing him.

Stop trolling.

Not sure why this was laughed at...fully support that...very little negative in that All for Haniger if he can be had for cheap, but hardest of hard passes on Corey Dickerson

I've always questioned the league(s) he was in for years. Always getting trades that rip off the other guy mostly every post he has here in the fantasy thread. Either that, or his friends are complete idiots who know nothing about the game.

These cant be real people. This would be vetoed in my league because theyd think it was collusion. Anything is possible as Cook/Kelce could both get injured and be worthless, but the people in your league are horrible at life.

Well.....I guess I won't be playing Chark this week afterall...I just traded him away. I didn't wait for this guy to back out again on the trade. I accepted it immediately. Thoughts? I get: Dalvin Cook and Travis Kelce I trade away: Melvin Gordon, DJ Chark, Payton Barber, Jimmy Graham With Evan Engram out for me right now, Kelce will slot in to my TE this week, and Cook will replace Gordon obviously. Then I can use Engram when he gets healthy to trade for a better RB2 than Montgomery.

He pretty much logged off after an epic back and back with rabbit.