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ROSTER and Players up for Consideration in Acquisition Listed Total Non-Pitchers 14 1B Jose Abreu Zack Collins (L) DH-C (AAA?) A.J. Reed (L) or back to minors if Collins makes the MLB roster to possibly pitch 2B Nick Madrigal Yolmer Sanchez FA (S) Utility Infielder FA watch signing before Sox Fest SS Tim Anderson Danny Mendick (AAA?) LF Eloy Jimenez Leury Garcia (S) Utility Infielder - Super Sub CF Luis Robert Adam Engel RF Nomar Mazara (L) 'NEW' Hunter Pence FA experience with great splits against LHP / Might be great catch Yasiel Puig FA Cuban dynamo wants to be full-time starter Kevin Pillar FA superior defense doubtful as wants to be full-time starter Pick one of the three C Yasmani Grandal (S) 'NEW' James McCann DH Edwin Encarnacion 1B 'NEW' Total Pitchers 12 SP-5 Lucas Giolito Dallas Keuchel (L) 'NEW' Reynaldo Lopez Gio Gonzalez (L) 'NEW' Dylan Cease RP-7Alex Colome Evan Marshall Kelvin Hererra (i) damaged goods for 2019 Jimmy Cordero Aaron Bummer (L) Jace Fry (L) FA signing - Pick one and potentially two Craig Stammen Will Harris Daniel Hudson Brandon Kintzler Steve Cishek Pedro Strop Trade possibilities Andrew Miller, Ken Giles, Josh Hader (?) AAA Michael Kopech TJ recovery ready by June Carlos Rodon (L) Surgery recovery ready post All-Star break Dylan Covey Carson Fulmer Ian Hamilton (i) recovery from car accident / shoulder and broken jaw Ryan Burr TJ recovery Matt Foster Zack Burdi Still not fully back from TJ AA Tyler Johnson Codi Heuer Detailed analysis below 1B Jose Abreu Team leader. Loves being with White Sox. Dick Allen. Frank Thomas. Paul Konerko. Jose Abreu. Top White Sox first basemen in the past half century. With a more balanced lineup with a few lefties should make Abreu that much more valuable at the plate. Underrated fielder. Class act who wants to only play for one MLB team in his career. Seems so much more content and confident since his son is in America. Uncle Jerry signing him was a sign of respect for all Jose has meant to White Sox. Rarely do you see any athlete basically say I would sign myself to be here and play for free if I have to. Will be in the White Sox Hall of Fame. Very good ball player. Really good guy and team captain. Zack Collins DH-C (L) Drafted as catcher and if he makes it there has a long ways to go. Bat first player with very good batting eye resulting in walks. Collins has a hitch in his swing. One major thing I noticed when he went down to Charlotte was when he started hitting he kept his left top hand over the top through the follow through. Sadly too many players today are under the influence of taking the top hand off the bat as well as this adjustment called launch angle a major reason why there are so many strikeouts. Likely if he makes the team a backup 1B and DH. Likely a 25th or 26th man. (Is he a trade candidate?) Either third catcher or at AAA. Still LH bat on bench to backup at First (Abreu) and DH (Encarnacion). A.J. Reed (L) May become pitcher. Former College Player of the Year at Kentucky where he played first base and was the number one starting pitcher for the Wildcats. Former top power hitting prospect 1B drafted in Second Round by Astros. One Yordan Alvarez (Rookie of the Year) with Astros came up they had no spot for Reed. Had an atrocious 2019. With Encarnacion signing if Collins goes to AAA Reed may make club as added LH bat. 2B Nick Madrigal Rookie Small spark plug who has excellent bat control and rarely strikes out ala Nellie Fox. Very smart ballplayer. High IQ. Leader by example. Might best be suited to batting one or two in lineup. Potential Gold Glover. Will be fan favorite. Yolmer Sanchez FA (S) Could be brought back at around $3M. Great glove, leader, smart player who does little things for a winning club / backup at 2B, 3B and SS / great clubhouse presence / wonderful character who is very good off the field as well / 2019 Gold Glove winner (If he is not brought back at lowered salary) Do not be surprised if he is signed at around $3M in time for Sox Fest. Renteria loves this guy who does the small things to help a team win. SS Tim Anderson Much improved player and the guy on the club with swagger. This one time starting guard on his Alabama High School basketball championship team has really improved his game particularly at bat including much better pitch selection as well as improvement in the field but this latter aspect of his game is still a work in progress. Has excellent speed and quick hands at bat. Has become pretty efficient hitting the other way.Tim exudes great confidence and he and his wife love the Chicago area where they do much outside of baseball off the field. Tim has shown a deep respect for Jackie Robinson and the fact he is the team's lone black American on the club and is keenly aware of what responsibility goes with that. Mention to Tim losing out on Manny Machado or trading Marcus Semien and Fernando Tatis and he is the guy who seems to like being challenged and proving doubters in error. Might be big things in his future. Is signed long term and really blossomed after the death of his best lifelong friend. Father of two young children also seems to have aided in his maturity. He is truly interested in and encouraging of young kids particularly in the inner city. (Something that needs pointing out is that the White Sox outreach to those in need is as good as it gets and Jerry Reinsdorf and the entire organization should feel proud of all the players and coaches do off the field for the good of the community and children including those in need). Danny Mendick Former 22nd Round Draft choice out of Lowell, MA. Danny is a tweener/gamer who has made himself relevant to a potential spot on the 2020 White Sox. Not a great glove but his bat and hustle could get him to the show. He consistently swings down on the ball using his top on over top on his swings. If Yolmer returns which is a distinct possibility Mendick either goes back to Charlotte or vies for the 26th man on the roster. Regardless he offers depth and a spark plug presence. Very enthusiastic. If Yolmer resigns Mendick likely to AAA after Madrigal comes up if he, Mendick, makes the roster out of Spring Training. 3B Yoan Moncada (S) Highly improved. Big time talent. Superior speed. Could likely play anywhere on field. Nice guy. If he could swing more down on ball could cut way down on strikeouts and be a doubles and triples machine. Due to being a switch hitter might be best suited to hitting third in lineup. Is very close to Jose Abreu and with Luis Robert and perhaps others this team has a noticeably Cuban flare. If somehow Sox got into bidding for Anthony Rendon (signs with Angels for $245M) which is not likely could Moncada play RF. Needs to improve two strike hitting. All current players need to review Juan Soto's changes with positioning of hands and feet with different counts. Moncada was a pleasant surprise at his natural position of third base. Great athlete. Cutest son in Robinson. LF Eloy Jimenez Big league power with 40 plus every year. Great persona to go with a young player that goes to all fields. Fielding lacks top flight performance but will be a fan favorite with personality off the charts. Adam Engel Very good outfielder with excellent instincts. Bat is well below average. That said he works very hard and was reasonably competent after going to minors working with Menchinno at Charlotte and did well particularly versus left handers. Possesses good speed and is very athletic. Was a top Ohio HS QB who could have played major college football but opted to Louisville to play baseball. Is he a candidate if someone like Mazara or Pederson as a platoon player. (Mazara traded for) Engel does not quit. Could be 25 or 26th man as backup OF. (Possible RF platoon with Mazara but this is poor offensive production player option. Did hit better against LHP last season) Believe a RH RF for platoon is coming. Pence. Puig. Pillar. Pick one. Pence has advantages including a lower salary. Puig is an option for a variety of reasons listed below and is a fabulous defensive player plus being Cuban which would give the Sox Grandal, Abreu, Moncada, Robert and Puig born on the island. Is the ghost of Minnie Minoso working from the other side? Read below about Pillar. CF Luis Robert Rookie Superstud potential. Best WS prospect since Frank Thomas. Saw as a 17 year old amateur and saw the wow of a premium talent with a high baseball IQ. The most talented all-around six tool player I have yet seen in the organization. Major talent and a CF who has chops in the field. Can run, hit, hit with power, field, throw and has the special mind / High baseball IQ / understanding of the game. Once he learns the language and due to his demeanor is going to be truly taken in by the fans in Chicago and across the nation. Pippin/Jordan/Rodman type talent in a different sport. May not be Mike Trout but like Trout at a young age this is what dreams are made of. Was tremendous leading off last year. A natural even if his name isn't Roy Hobbs. Most gifted athlete to lace up a pair of spikes since Dick Allen on the Southside. Leury Garcia (S) Good all-around switch hitter who has played all outfield positions including CF and has the skills to play SS, 2B and perhaps 3B in a pinch if needed. Good personality and a value player that is a jack of many trades and has good speed and has improved his game. Strikes out too much. Wish he and others would learn to hit with two strikes by choking up, shortening the swing with the goal of making contact. Again see Juan Soto and perhaps even possible teammate Hunter Pence. Whenever someone has two strikes it becomes necessary to alter how one approaches the count. RF Nicholas Castellanos FA Had huge improvement including leading all of baseball in doubles in 2019 after coming from Detroit to Cubs during season. Had the best stretch of offense in his career with the Cubs and is excellent hitting the other way. Some might view him as a poor man's JD Martinez. Excellent hitting left handed pitching. Good also against right hander's. Probably best suited to part time RF and DH. Defense is lacking for the one time third baseman. If he signs with Sox look for them to get a LH RF to platoon with him. (Mazara) Agent is Boras. Has hit well against White Sox and in Guaranteed Rate Field. (Possible RF platoon with Mazara and other days DH. Question remains will Sox spend so much in this market with Boras?) Highly unlikely sign now with Encarnacion and Vaughn waiting in the wings. Yasiel Puig FA Tremendous talent but comes with the kind of baggage that may or may not scare off Uncle Jerry who once had Dennis Rodman with the Bulls. One of the very best defensive RF's in the game and arguably the best throwing arm since the likes of Roberto Clemente and Ichiro Suzuki. Was the most popular player while on the Dodgers. Since becoming a father he seems more responsible. Cuban connection cannot be overlooked and with a competitive audience environment in Chicago with the Cubs Puig is a headliner that could bring in numbers of fans. If this is indicative of change in his life Puig rented a helicopter and flew to a Camp for Jewish boys (Camp Simcha) who are ill and led one of the most memorable days any athlete has done out of love for others. There are risks with a clubhouse that is considered excellent and no one wants to rock the boat. Puig brings an aura to the game that has potential much like Rodman. Note-Puig is fluent in English. (If Sox go with Puig Mazara could be primarily LHDH platoon with possible Mercedes if they do not sign a DH ike Edwin Encarncion - NOW SIGNED or trade for JD Martinez which is unlikely) Since signing EE Mazara is going to be a platoon RF with Puig, Pence, Pillar, Garcia and/or Engel. Hunter Pence FA Revamped his entire swing after a disastrous 2018 season after seven very successful years with Giants and two championships. Fan favorite who works very hard at the game, in fact, so hard that he went to the Dominican Republic after the bad season and completely changed and worked on a new swing. The result he signed a $2M contract with the Texas Rangers and had a very good season hitting against LHP with an OPS of over 1.000. For the money Pence may be a bargain and veteran winning presence that could take the cake for a great value sign here to platoon with Mazara in right. Pence actually made the All-Star team last year. Experienced winning ball player. Great leader and teammate. Excellent communicator. One of the most underrated players of the past decade. Does not fit the image of the perfect baseball player whose style of play looks a bit strange but the man gets the job done the offensively and defensively with an accurate arm and is truly committed to his craft. An all-time San Francisco Giants legend. The kind of player and persona that might go over big with Chicago fans and in the clubhouse. Very good guy. Deep desire to always do his best and win and find silver linings even in a loss. One of the most passionate players in the game whose play and preparation are an example to his team. Might really fill the bill. Kevin Pillar FA Simply one of the very best defensive outfielders in the game top talent for CF but plays anywhere and with a high level of superior defense to earn him the nickname 'Superman'. Played for a number of years with the Blue Jays and was traded to Giants where he had his best offensive numbers of his career though much can be related to juiced ball. Still his defense is among the best in the game. All said I imagine there are clubs looking for a defensive stud in CF so I have my doubts of a White Sox sign here but if anyone thinks Adam Engel can go get it watch Pillar. Amazing he has never won a Gold Glove. Was surprised Giants decided not to sign him. Inspiring player. Avi Garcia FA Former WS who went to Tampa and is possible return candidate if played in a platoon situation. Plays hard most always and is a very good teammate but his history is injuries and despite the new juiced ball his HR output has not been boosted. Has a very good arm. Talk is Brewers are interested. (Signed with Brewers for $20M for 2 years) He gone! Adam Jones FA Veteran former Gold Glover from years in CF for Orioles may be a good platoon RF and excellent presence in the clubhouse and dugout. His salary would likely come on the cheap. Class leader who for a bargain might supplant need for a right handed hitter to platoon with a LH hitter. (signed in Japan) He gone! 'NEW' Nomar Mazara (L) trade Still only 24 this is one of the most powerful young hitters in the game. Sox need a LH hitter and Mazara plays RF so he fills two needs. Thing is he has not much improved since coming up but Sox fans and team officials remember all too well the 500 foot HR he hit last year against Reynaldo Lopez that if not for the upper deck might still be going. He is a fine young man out of the Dominican and he speaks fluent English. He has two years left of control and it appears Texas may be ready to move on and a realistic deal could be had. If Kenny was still GM this is the kind of guy he likes. Only made like $3.5M. ($6.5 for 2020) Has a nice throwing arm. Platoon situation for RF. If not Mazara we move on to Joc Pederson. (Trade for Mazara did happen) Believe agent is Boras. Very nice soft spoken guy with a good sense of humor. Light tower power ala Jimenez and Robert. Could be platoon DH with possibly Mercedes if DH such as EE is not acquired (Encarnacion was signed) May have had a bad thumb last season something that Luis Robert had to deal with. The second. #2 and LHB. (Acquired in trade from Rangers for Steele Walker) Good OPS of better than .850 of second half of 2019. Has yet to show he can hit lefties. Don't stop now boys! Joc Pederson (L) trade Pederson is primarily like Mazara a platoon RF but one with big power and trained as a CF he is a pretty good defensive player who would move to RF with the White Sox. Thing is this is the last year of Pederson's contract with the Dodgers and the question remains what would the Sox have to exchange for someone who hit 36 HR's in 2019. No way on Aaron Bummer here. Sox last spring were is talks to acquire Pederson. It could happen this year. Pederson is one of the few Jewish ballplayers in MLB and played for the Israeli team in international play. His left handed bat much as with Mazara would be welcome additions to balance the lineup at RHP made life difficult on Sox RH bats last season. Has come up big in big games including the World Series. Kicked the tires and went with Mazara. NO. Corey Dickerson (L) FA DH Has some pop but is a left fielder and is on the smallish side. Has a upper cut swing which is not my favorite. Hard nosed player who is motivated to be better. Not sure he cuts it for RF. Option for DH. Not a likely sign. (signed with Miami 2 years for $17.5M total) NO. Yoshitomo Tsutsugo (L) FA DH Japanese slugger with excellent batting eye who gets walks. Top leader with big time desire to play in major league's. Great clubhouse guy as well. Sox had success with Iguchi and could consider Tsutsugo as DH and OF option though his play in field is not his top strength. Mazara and Pederson at this time may be better options due to defense and flexibility. Tsutsugo may be a bargain though with contract. Intriguing prospect but with Vaughn coming next season is he the right guy for this team? We shall see. No trade compensation of players if he is signed versus having to trade for a left handed hitter. Has played outfield, 3B and 1B. Throws RH. Guy can hit and to all fields with power. (signed with Tampa 2 years $12M total) Sleeper. He gone! C 'NEW' Yasmani Grandal FA (S) ($73M Major FA signing with White Sox). Another Cuban who happens to have a deep friendship and connection to Zack Collins. Was surprised with the signing but Sox now have top catching duo in the game with McCann. Very committed player who has a reputation for being a top pitch framer. This switch hitting catcher was someone on my personal radar going back to his early days. Bold move signing him. Has good power and has caught some of the game's top pitchers for contending teams. The first. #1. Don't stop now boys! James McCann In my view the team MVP in 2019. Superior knowledge of the game. Prepare like few others. Solid bat last year. Like how he chokes up on the bat and is willing to go with pitches. Very solid player. Team leader. Lucas Giolito credits McCann so much for his improvement. Will one day manage in the big leagues if he wants to. Super smart player who is as good a defensive catcher the Sox have had in years. Under no circumstances should he be traded. One of the best catchers in the game who knows how to use his footwork to block the plate and is excellent blocking pitches. Was catcher to Verlander and I believe Scherzer for a brief time in 2014 while catching for the Tigers. A good leader who has good skills behind the plate is tough to find. Molina, Posey, Perez, Contreras and few others. Speaks with a southern accent despite being from Santa Barbara, CA and while at Arkansas caught Dallas Keuchel for one season. Yermin Mercedes DH Watch this guy as he can flat out hit and with power and has a high degree of confidence and swagger. A short version ala Manny Ramirez. Could DH with Collins but this guy really can hit. Strong throwing arm but has difficulty blocking pitches. Maybe Grandal and McCann can teach him. Keep an eye on this guy in the box. DH 'NEW' Edwin Encarncion FA If Sox want a value and experienced DH this might be the guy. With more than 400 HR's and more than 1200 RBI's EE has the experience and with some good ball clubs to really add a nice veteran presence and bat in the lineup. Hit some 34 HR's last season in just over 400 AB's. Probably in the $8-12M range. If Mazara or Pederson is on roster along with the added Grandal and Collins or Reed there may be enough LH bats but Encarnicion is a tempting asset to a playoff potential team. Some lineup they would have. EE is an established big time power numbers guy who has hit more than 32 HR's for eight consecutive seasons. The fifth. #5 (signed with White Sox $12M with second year club option) Don't stop now boys! JD Martinez Has three years left at around $20M from Red Sox. Did not opt out. Would be great addition but with Andrew Vaughn waiting in the wings would they get Martinez with so much in salary due? They might but might rather spend on pitching and more likely Encarnacion? JD is a great hitter and terrific in clubhouse. Had big impact on Mookie Betts. Fluent in English and Spanish. Steve Stone very much likes Martinez and who could argue with Martinez' production. NO. SP Zack Wheeler FA $100M Top pursued FA SP for White Sox. Wipeout slider/curve and former high #1 pick. Wheeler has had TJ and missed big time but appears to be back strong and any team willing to cough up $100M have to be assured Wheeler is healthy and strong. Would be welcome addition to Sox staff and a top priority signing. Would be a one or two at top of staff with Giolito. (signed with Phillies for $118M) He gone! Stephen Strasburg FA unlikely Dominant in post season and for World Champion Nationals. Always pitches from the stretch and has ace stuff including coming up big in big games. Most likely resigns with Washington but could consider move to hometown of San Diego. We are talking big bucks here for someone who can dominate a game. Shows wicked stuff. Very low key man. (resigned with Nationals 7-years for $245M) He gone! Garrett Cole FA unlikely Arguably the biggest name and stud of this FA class. First player since Nolan Ryan in 1977 to have more than 300 K's if memory serves me. Dominant pitcher who will be a number one on any team. May get $250M contract or more. Top teams in hunt included Angels, Yankees and Nationals if they do not get back Strasburg. Stud pitcher who is one big man with an easy motion. Former #1 pick of entire draft Cole is from Orange County as many believe Anaheim is in his backyard and with Trout / Madden / Otani and the coming Adell many feel Angels are ready to make their move. Not a likely player for the White Sox. Better off spreading around the money. Grew up with his Dad as a Yankee fan. (signed with Yankees 9 years for $324M) He gone! Madison Bumgarner FA (L) One of the very all-time best post season pitchers in MLB history. Minus a bump a few years back after a foolish accident I believe riding a motorcyle Bumgarner's game took a drop in performance. He has one of the hardest series of pitches to pick up as the way he throws around his body. Does give up HR's as one of most prolific in the game here. But he has special experience as a multi-time World Series Champion under Bruce Bochy and Dave Righetti. I believe Bumgarner who loves to hit may stay in NL but as a key experienced veteran who knows how to win he should be in the conversation. For the record he and Yasiel Puig have had their issues in the past. Both fierce competitors. Would be a great second sign behind Wheeler presuming the latter is signed. With Wheeler signed may be top choice presuming he goes to AL. (Steve Stone favorite. Signed with Arizona for $85M) He gone! Hyun-Jin Ryo FA (L) Excellent control lefty from Dodgers. Reminds me a bit of Mark Buerlhe. Unsure if he speaks English. Agent is Boras. Good second sign if price is right. (signs with Blue Jays for $80M over four years after Sox signed Keuchel) 'NEW' Dallas Keuchel FA (L) Soft throwing control lefty. Former Cy Young but that was some time ago. Would be nice second and likely looking for minimum of three years. Was with Astros when they won World Series. Uses a classic over the head windup unlike most pitchers today. This lack of stretch of the arm may be a major factor in so many TJ surgeries. Former Cy Young Award Winner. Had the opportunity to discuss my observation/hypothesis with Bob Feller. Agent is Boras. The fourth. #4 (signs with White Sox 3 years for $55M with vesting option for year four and a total of $74M) Don't stop now boys! 'NEW' Gio Gonzalez FA (L) Former White Sox number one draft choice traded twice in Nick Swisher deal and Jim Thome deal. Has won 130 games in career. Excellent curve ball. Had dead arm last season so we shall see if anything is left in the tank. Spot kept warm until Kopech returns. Good veteran presence presuming his arm is OK. Balances starting staff with a second southpaw. The third. #3 (signs with White Sox one year for $5M) Don't stop now boys! Cole Hamels FA (L) One-time Philly dominant originally out of San Diego Hamels was 7-7 with Cubs last year and is 36 years of age. However he may be a good fifth and a badly needed lefty whose experience might be a big asset. From what I read he and his family like Chicago so what would it take to bring him to the Southside as the second FA SP. Good veteran presence for young pitchers. (signed one-year deal with Atlanta for $18M) He gone! Julio Teheran FA 28 year old veteran RHSP out of Columbia and pitched entire career with Atlanta. Braves are deep in MILB in starters and chose not to bring back top or their rotation pitcher for $12M per year. Would be a viable option or a starter who always goes innings and has the top pick off move in the game with super quick feet. Feels for the right price might now be a potential match with upper guys gone. Very athletic. Young pitcher who has been around for eight seasons and has won over 80 games. Speaks fluent English. (signs one year contract for $9M with Angels) He gone! Felix Hernandez FA Former great Mariners pitcher who appears to have lost it with an over 5.00 ERA in 2019. Career could be winding down. Then again does this star veteran have anything left in the tank. Long shot but could be a five and the questions is whether Cooper can fix that which may be over the hill broken. When King Felix was good he was great. But that looks as if it was long ago. NO. Tuijuan Walker FA Former Mariner and Diamondback who was a top of the rotation potential starter. Was hurt and would be a shot in the arm chance if he regain his stuff. Big man. NO. Ivan Nova FA Dependable starter for White Sox last season who consistently throws strikes and was a good veteran presence on the club. Pitches quickly and when he keeps ball low he is at his best. Would be fifth starter and could transition into long role in pen upon Kopech's arrival. Had a very nice second half in 2019. Works quickly. Unlikely sign now after Sox signed Gonzalez and Keuchel. J.A. Happ (L) trade with Yankees Solid veteran originally from Illinois this 37 year old veteran may be on the block if the Yankees intend to secure Gerritt Cole via FA. Was tough two years ago after solid career with Toronto Blue Jays. For consideration if Yankees pick up some of his guaranteed salary. Is an option. (LHSP option if Yankees pick up part of the salary. Happ went to Northwestern and is from the area) NO. Chris Sale (L) trade with Red Sox Is it possible? Red Sox are looking to dump virtually anyone and everyone. Could Sox have package to reacquire former ace. Have stranger things happened? Sale's salary could make it tough. Is his elbow healthy? (Is a reunion possible with Red Sox wanting to dump salaries. Rumors abound about David Price and Andrew Benetendi the latter would surprise. Not a fan of Price who Sox would need some salary help on his $32M salary per season. But is Sale an option though a longshot?) NO. Jose Quintana (L) trade with Cubs Could crosstown rivals meet up once again. Would Q be an option in 2021 via FA? Stranger things have happened but I wonder if Cubs would thread Sox needle making them more formidable in market competition. Again we shall see. Q's salary makes it easier. (Don't think Cubs will trade Q now but maybe mid season) Not at this time. Maybe FA signing next year. Familiar setting where he pitched much better with White Sox). Lucas Giolito SP Went from outhouse to the big house in one year. Turned to his HS pitching coach from Harvard Westlake in Sherman Oaks (same team with Max Fried and Jack Flarhety) Ethan Katz (now with SF Giants) who caught flaws in Giolito's delivery. Dramatic change in where he keeps his throwing arm and release point. It really showed as he made his first all-star appearance. Hid the ball making harder for hitters to pick up pitches. Great confidence and a very nice guy. Wife is studying to be animal doctor at UCDavis. Family were/are in entertainment business. Credits also James McCann behind the plate. Looks the part of being a top flight starter. Really into the mental preparation aspect of the game. Really dedicated himself to be a better player and seeks being excellent. Good student of pitching. Like him also as a person. Nice guy who has class and a good sense of humor. Good teammate. Reynaldo Lopez SP A quandary of a pitcher who at times looks like a world beater ace and other times appears to lose concentration and focus and just loses it. Kid seems to want to be good and if the Sox sign FA starters it will be time to shit or get off the pot and move to the pen or be sent in a trade something I do not believe the White Sox want to do. The talent is there plus he has stamina. Maturity is a key and he has deep family roots with his grandparents. Late in the season Ricky Renteria really gave him a talking too and Lopez just looked into his manager's eyes and listened. Seems to be a good young man and has all the talent in the world. Perhaps like Giolito he will breakthrough this season. We shall see. The kid has the talent. Dylan Cease SP The second piece with Eloy Jimenez in the Jose Quintana deal with the Cubs. At times exhibits ace ability but the consistency with control has not yet been there. Then again Cease was a rookie last year. He posses one of the best wipe out curves in the game. Has a slow deliberate motion. But key to him is control. Was hit pretty good when he came up but the last part of the season he started getting his act together. Would have been a first round draft choice but had TJ surgery in HS and fell to Cubs in Round 6. With time, patience and experience Cease has the chance to become a top three in the rotation. Michael Kopech SP (TJ) June. Big time power pitcher. Came in the Chris Sale deal along with Yoan Moncada and Luis Basabe. Very hard worker. Training warrior. One of the hardest throwers in all of baseball. Had TJ surgery last year and is throwing again and is not missing a beat. Thing is when will Kopech be ready to join the MLB club. Spring training may be pushing it to come up with the big league team. I expect we are looking at around June for a call up. Will he be in rotation or pen when he does arrive. If he masters control he has chance to be potential ace. Has an aura who wants to be great. Reminds me of a Turk I grew up with with an independent flare knowing he is good. Carlos Rodon SP (L) (i) I expect to see Rodon as a member of the bullpen when he returns by midseason. If Jace Fry goes to Dodgers as part of Joc Pederson deal (which did not happen) Rodon would serve in similar role. Sox will have numerous starters but will not risk injuries. Rodon has a wipe-out slider but has been hurt multiple times. Another factor with injuries to pitchers is that very few wind up any more leading to flexibility issues that lead to DL and surgery stints. Plus Rodon is not built really like a pitcher. Dane Dunning (TJ) Sort of a RH Mark Buerlhe type pitcher. Throws strikes. Another TJ surgery. Won't pitch until mid to late season. Aaron Bummer (L) Lights out eighth inning reliever who once he found his control became a real pitcher. Bummer was a 19th round draft pick originally out of the University of Nebraska. When Bummer is in the zone which now has become commonplace he is a very good set up man to get to the ninth. Last year in discussions for Pederson his name came up. Do not see Sox dealing Bummer in deal for Pederson this time around. (Mazara traded for) Amazing when getting the ball in the strike zone can do. Jace Fry (L) Looked every bit the part of a poor man's Andrew Miller when he came up in 2018. However, Fry regressed in 2019 not hitting his spots plus the opposition started making adjustments. That said this former third-round draft choice out of Oregon still has the upside of a quality reliever. As such I suspect his name will be mentioned in talks surrounding Joc Pederson with a trade with the Dodgers. (Trade for Pederson did not happen) Talk is Dodgers are interested in Bryce Bush the HS star out of Michigan the White Sox scooped up in the 33rd round prying him from a commitment to Mississippi State. Originally drafted as a third baseman he has now moved to RF. If Sox do deal Fry expect Carlos Rodon once he returns mid-season to move into the bullpen. Alex Colome Lights out closer with fabulous cutter. He was dominant in the first half of the season. Second half he came back down to Earth. Still Colome is the White Sox best closer since Bobby Jenks. Has ice in his veins and loves pressure closing situations. Got a salary bump up to $10M. Nickname is The Horse and any game that Colome comes in he has a shot to put the game away. If Sox are going to contend for a playoff spot Colome is going to be a key to teams potential success. Evan Marshall Good pick up going into 2019. Marshall turned in good performance as a seventh inning set up man. Seems to have a rubber arm. Another of the many who seem to have benefited from Don Cooper. Value pitcher. Jimmy Cordero Surprise pickup who pitched well as the RH used prior to Marshall and Colome. Kelvin Herrera Top bullpen signing last season. Was dinged up virtually all season and was highly disappointing. Was dominant as member of Royals against White Sox. If he can come back to his old self he could be welcome addition. So far he looks like a bust signing owed more than $8M for 2020. Dylan Covey Has his shipped sailed. Given ample opportunity this one hailed first round projected pick developed diabetes and that set him back. One of the few pitchers in the organization who actually has a traditional wind up. Is a control pitcher. This is his last chance if the bus has not left the station. Originally a pick up via a claim from the Oakland Athletics. Ian Hamilton (i) Top bullpen arm who had a freakish 2019 from side effects of auto accident that affected his shoulder and then was hit in face by line drive in dugout. If he can come back could be valuable asset in pen. Hamilton was an 11th round draft choice out of Washington State despite being listed at six feet is a shorter pitcher and not up to the listing in real height in the guide. He has a very good wipeout slider. Bulldog mentality. Ryan Burr (TJ) Good bullpen piece. Former Arizona State closer and fifth round draft choice. Sox acquired from Diamondbacks. Throws straight over the top. Had TJ surgery last season. The second half of Hamilton and Burr. Matt Foster Former 20th round choice out of Alabama Foster is a bulldog who throws strikes. Has a shot at making club at some point next season and maybe out of spring training. Good numbers since entering the organization with reasonable consistency. Zack Burdi (TJ) Former first round choice out of Louisville and Chicago, Illinois. Had TJ surgery and has not hit his numbers since. I do not like the fact he does not hide the ball and rotate his hips well but he once threw near 100mph. Wait and see here. Too many pitchers today do not know how to hide/protect the ball including not having a leg kick making it more challenging to pick up the pitch. Carson Fulmer Last chance ? Trade candidate as throw in at this point. Has been a bust so far. Very small guy. Does not move ball around. Far too easy for a hitter to pick up. Throws a straight fastball that does not move. Questionable control. Seemed like a bulldog but has more tendencies to throw more like a batting practice pitcher. At this point he looks like a bust. Seems very competitive and confident but the results are just to date not there. Has had numerous opportunities and if he is going to make it the clock is ticking with the White Sox and soon their may be no longer a barn for this horse to go back to. (If anyone wants the former first round draft choice (#8) out of Vanderbilt he is available) Tyler Johnson Interesting former fifth round pick out of South Carolina. Unusual delivery release point that can be challenging to pick up for hitters. Missed much of last season. Appears to be top RP in organization. Codi Heuer Former Wichita State starting pitcher who has thrived in relief role. Did not give up HR. Kyle Kubat (L) Jamie Moyer type control pitcher who went undrafted out of Nebraska signed by the Royals and acquired by the White Sox. Has been a sleeper throughout the minors up until call up to AAA Charlotte last season where he struggled. Then again with the juiced ball who did not get challenged. Still he has shown some strong signs and could compete for a long relief spot start role. Is a character. Could he be a sleeper? Unlikely but one never knows with his rise through the system. Will Koncanon Big RH local kid who has a power arm but is only in A+ ball at this point. Possible future piece. Sox will sign one or perhaps two veteran FA RP. Craig Stammen. Will Smith. Daniel Hudson. Brandon Kintzler. Steve Cishek. Pedro Strop. etc. And/or trade for a reliever such as Andrew Miller, Ken Giles or Josh Hader which is a longshot.

Well, I'm bored at the office for a few hours today before another week off and I figured since I just finished my first year posting (who cares, I know), I would do something I don't frequently do - show appreciation for posters and people that make this site enjoyable. We spend a lot of time conversing and arguing with each other about a common interest, but we also learn new things and share those insights. If I didn't name you, it's nothing personal as I miss things from time to time in my elongated breaks due to work. Sox Talk 2019 Shout Outs - My favorite Poster: MQR - while I enjoy reading many thoughts and insights on the forum, I have to say that MQR quickly grew into my favorite poster over the past year. I enjoy reading his thoughts and insights - even if we don't agree - and I find him to be very good at describing things in ways that the masses understand; something I am not always great at. I think he walks the fine line between pessimistic and optimistic better than all posters at this site - being reasonable and rational for most of his thoughts while removing his emotion. My favorite read: Chicago White Sox - He's a passionate SOB and he fluctuates between incredibly optimistic and emotionally pessimistic - that's the nature of being a Sox fan. That said, he tells people what he thinks and sometimes takes some pot shots but all in good fun. He dishes out quite a lot of shit but he's also more than capable of taking shit back without whining or complaining. I love his emotional reaction and take to White Sox baseball - he is my definition of a Sox fan. The guy moved to Nashville to take a stand! That can't be beaten by any other poster. My favorite stat head: thxfrthmmrs - being a fellow analytic thinker, I enjoy reading his thoughts. We have clashed on countless topics over the past year - data can come to two different conclusions depending on the analyst! - especially basketball, but I really enjoy the thought he puts into his words and the evidence he uses to support his opinions. Even if I don't agree with him always, I am almost guaranteed to always learn something new. My favorite sparring partner: Dick! - Dick doesn't love when I call him Dick, but I love how honest Dick keeps me. He calls me on my opinions when they become wishywashy and nonsensical. He brings my mistakes to the surface, and he always questions my methods. Dick is one of those people that keeps the place going by keeping everyone on their toes. Glad to have him in the stable of "keeping them honest" posters. My favorite Contrarian: Moan - Moan takes a lot of heat for his negativity, but you need those type of posters to make sure we don't get to irrationally excited. What I really really like about Moan is that he disagrees with A LOT of posters, but he never attacks them or ridicules them. He spends all that energy on attacking the front office. I respect a poster who can disagree with you without making it personal, and Moan disagrees a lot so he's a pro. In general, I like his insights even if I don't always agree with them. My favorite thinker: ChiSox59 - This is a guy you know thinks before he posts; frequently providing valuable and additional information to conversations that many might overlook. If you're uncertain of something, ChiSox59 or BMags are the guys to ask. They do a lot of great homework. My favorite underdog: Jack Parkman - Jack takes a lot of shit around here, and I'm honestly not a huge fan of some of the personal jabs at the guy but people seem to know him better than I. Jack has a good heart, and wants what is best for the team. I wish we could all collectively lift his spirits more when he gets down on himself or on the White Sox. I'm certain Jack is the kind of guy who would help a stranger in need at Soxtalk, and I appreciate that he realizes his shortcomings and tries to improve on them. My favorite researcher: fathom/Orlando - I remember when I came to this forum the perception was that fathom was negative. I can honestly say I would not draw that conclusion. Fathom is great for his knowledge of every baseball rumor that has ever existed for every single team. If you want to know where someone might go, ask Fathom as he's read every twitter/reddit and forum on the net to gauge rumors and fan expectations. In regards to Orlando, I'm like 99% sure that he actually knows exactly what people are about to tweet before they actually do it. There are so many other posters I enjoy reading and conversing with and it's one of the reasons it's the only place online that I post. BackDoor, Eloy, Lillian, Y2Jimmy for his awesome coverage, PTATC for his medical knowledge, Cali for his constant follow ups and question, and poppy for his unwavering positivity and on and on. I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and wish you all a happy new year. Here's to a better, happier and more exciting 2020. Go Sox!

His Instagram account is showing a loop of the Buehrle rain delay tarp sliding.

Might be the longest post in the history of Soxtalk except for poppysox who quoted it twice to make it twice as long.

I think I am in a bad dream...I logged onto Soxtalk and apparently walked into AP US History...and I'm not wearing pants!!

If RR wants to let Robert lead off right from the start, I think he goes with something like this: Robert Moncada Abreu Grandal Eloy Encarnacion Anderson Mazara Madrigal If not, I think he just switches Robert and Anderson.

The batting champ hitting 9th and a suspect who has never had a big league at bat hitting 2nd. Good lord people.

That's because you were scrolling

This just gave me AIDs. I'm assuming you put a lot of time into this but it is unreadable due to the skitzo formatting

I agree he flashed through my mind while i was reading the thread. I don't know what made him leave. Maybe the new influx of posters being a little too brash. I'd rather avoid most run ins with posters unless I can have arguments without getting nasty and try to avoid trigger words that upset people. Maybe many don't care about that but I'd rather not use the forum to act like a tough guy just because it's easy. It's much harder to conduct yourself with some dignity. I know he still lurks but maybe not posting is better for his blood pressure.

Oh we must inform @Quin that even Keuchel compares himself to Buerhle or at least likes him.

When I opened this thread, I was in college. I am now in a retirement home as I’m replying to this.

I scrolled an hour to get to this reply box.

Oh I know there is a good chance it happens, but it doesn’t make it any less nonsensical.

I think the most likely guys to get moved are the following: Zavala (unless we plan on trading one of McCann or Collins) Medeiros (can probably slip through waivers) Guerrero (no options remaining - may try to slip through) Fulmer (no options remaining - will likely try to trade first though) Covey (one option remaining) Ruiz (one option remaining)

I think the one thing everybody should agree on is Madrigal is 9 this year. He’s a rookie, too bad. I lean towards this. 1. R Anderson batting champ Not perfect but I like having our team middle finger up first ? 2. S Moncada best hitter 3. R Abreu just cause it’s what they’ll do 4. S Grandal good leadoff for inning 2 if they go 1-2-3 in the first. 5. R Jimenez I’d prefer he switches with Abreu but whatever 6. R EE I’m sure he’ll be 5 instead of Jimenez because of seniority but ok whatever 7. L Mazara just because the rookies should be 8-9 but I could see Robert bumping him to 8 at some point. 8. R Robert Rookie. Too bad just play him here in 2019. Solves the problems of pressure, seniority etc. 9. R Madrigal Rookie. See above The older, leadery guys are going to bat ahead of rookies It’s respect. Use that to our advantage for building lineups. Makes it easier for RR and RH. Let Robert, Madrigal, Jimenez, Mazara etc push Abreu, Granda, EE lower for 2021 by putting up better numbers in 2020. The opposite way is scary.

Way better.

why trade for a reliever when there are good free agent options still available??

Infinite Jest Meets Joyce’s Ulysses.

Here’s how I’d construct our lineup against RHP when Robert & Madrigal first come up. In parentheses I have their 2019 OBP’s & ISO’s against RHP. Anderson, SS (.360 | .175) Moncada, 3B# (.377 | .246) Encarnacion, DH (.332 | .266) Grandal, C# (.372 | .201) Jimenez, LF (.313 | .264) Abreu, 1B (.299 | .215) Mazara, RF* (.344 | .212) Robert, CF (.336 | .336) Madrigal, 2B (.405 | .039) At some point I’d swap Encarnación & Jimenez and consider putting someone else in the leadoff spot assuming BABIP regression from Tim. But I really do like this lineup construction and think that having Robert, Madrigal, Anderson, & Moncada all bat consecutively is going to create a ton of havoc on the bases.

Side question: Is there a way to tell who “reacts” to your posts? Or is it always “somebody”? Or is there a poster named “somebody” who is my biggest fan?

I feel Madrigal is the only option at lead off that makes sense. He’s the one guy who doesn’t have to sacrifice anything else in his offensive skill set to get on base. It’s pretty much the name of this game, although I do understand a lot of that will come from BA. If he can’t produce a high BA then he doesn’t really belong in the majors anyways. I believe the Sox will instill in him a more patient approach. Not only to draw more walks, but to ensure he’s making contact on the pitches he can drive. Which would in turn increase his BA. He belongs at the top of the order. Moncada belongs 2nd. Those are the main two spots I feel most strongly about.

The talk is we are between an 80 and 87 win team at the moment. Many think we can't catch the Twins because we finished 28 games behind them past year, and that we'd have to see significant progress from our youngsters. I agree, but a some things should be factored in. 1. We were nearly a .500 club at the break last year. 2. That losing streak after the break was the main reason our record tanked. We hot swept in 4 games by the Royals of all teams. 3. We had a ton of injuries. 4. We had 7 players playing regularly that had no business doing so. 5. We don't have a major weakness. Our bullpen will get much better as well. 6. Our main guys should produce more positive results than last season. 7. Detroit and KC suck bad and we should fare better against Cleveland and Minny. If we can stay relatively healthy and progress a little, I don't see why we can't win 90 games next season. The Twins were able to catch Cleveland by upgrading their roster and I think we can do the same. Enjoy the good times!

AIDS comment was so funny ? but then quoting the thing might be funnier. I can’t decide! Help!

my favorite part was the empty bulleted list with a border-radius and box-shadow on it for literally no reason

I used the NHL model as the baseline. the NHL salary floor is roughly 74% of the cap. Because there is more money involved in baseball, I think that a soft cap system with a floor is a nice compromise. Make the luxury tax ceiling of 208M the cap, then 74% of that would be roughly 154M. That would be the floor. You can make a rule such that you can't exceed the soft cap for more than 3 seasons in a decade. Use them wisely. They could also make a "Trout Rule", similar to the NBA's Bird Rule, where you're allowed to exceed the soft cap without penalty for 1 player that was acquired before they reached one year of MLB service time. I also am a proponent of changing the FA rules a bit. The rules are the following: Players are allowed to become Free Agents at age 29 with 6+ full seasons of MLB service, 6 seasons after the season of their MLB debut, or Age 31 if the player makes his MLB debut at age 25 or older. Age 25/29/31 is considered as follows: The player must be 25/29/31 years old or older by the end of the regular season following the winter of their FA. It puts everyone on the same playing field in FA. Contracts could actually be used as a comparables. It would kill the service time issue as everyone would know when players reach FA. Everyone has an opportunity to be come a FA between the ages of 29-31. There would be no illusions of what you're getting or not in FA. Also, after a player's second full season in the majors, a player is allowed arbitration. This way, players who jump into superstardom immediately get paid at a younger age. You only get two cheap years.

They aren't really broke, they are just refusing to go any more over the luxury tax threshold. It's understandable from a business perspective, but also very confusing because it is causing their window to close rapidly. Especially because of the amount of money that was pumped into the area surrounding the park.

It feels like that Manny thread was in 2012. Was that really just earlier this year? Such a pleasant off season this has been.

Yeah, it's when I got involved with posting here. It was one hell of a roller coaster and taught me to shut off all the noise and wait until that baby is delivered! It was an up and down year; amazing that all the anger and sadness about Machado wasn't warranted as it may have been the best thing to happen to the rebuild. If people want to add threads and etc to read that was good from the year prior that wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Sox have generated more WAR from their drafts dating back 10 years than more than 1/2 the league. I need to back and find the research, and while much of that is tied to Chris Sale (and now Anderson), that doesn't mean it doesn't count because finding Chris Sale is really valuable. The Sox haven't had as many pieces as some teams, but they've generated more WAR than the league average from their drafts. Baseball is tough to evaluate because: 1. It takes a lot of time. 2. It's much more of a crapshoot than other sports, so you shouldn't expect an impact guy every year. 3. As a fan, we are much closer to our failures than we are to other teams failures. Also, the Sox didn't really get elite high level draft picks for decades due to them winning enough to not be the worst - until the last few years.

I've jumped the shark

Great recap of personalities here at the greatest compilation of Sox fans on the planet. Kudos to you as well, Ray for your passion and insight. I wish to add my hope for a Healthy and Happy New Year to all who post here.

I was thinking Mendick with a .290 .380 but no steals. That's fine as long as he can get on base.

The Cubs whiff again. Although not giving a 3 year deal to a 32 year old Japanese center fielder may be a blessing in disguise for them. EDIT: Nevermind. He only got 3 years, $15 million. That’s chump change. The Cubs aren’t spending any money this offseason. https://mobile.twitter.com/Kazuto_Yamazaki/status/1211711548923596801

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/payroll/ This is accurate. Add in $18M for Keuchel and ~$9M for pre-arb guys and you get to $120.5M.

Just looking at the projected lineup in the leadoff thread...man, that's some serious improvement over this time last year.

Biggest take away from the presser was Hahn saying they still had payroll flexibility and that maybe even they add a bigger costly piece in July Seems like they're still no where near their cap for the rebuild.

Guys who are on the roster bubble for me: Zavala, Medeiros, Jose Ruiz, Tayron Guerrero, maybe Fulmer. Then after Spring, Rodon, Lambert, and Dunning all go on the 60 day, so there will be room to add Robert, Madrigal, and NRI’s from Spring. Covey and Fulmer are both out of options. They either make the club, or they are gone.

He was not universal top 15 and I don't think anyone had him at 11; where the Sox drafted him, he was a reach. And the prior year, while (the now promoted) Hostetler drafts Collins and Burdi, the Dodgers, drafting much later, nab Lux and Will Smith. At some point, there needs to be accountability.

Is this the Ark Of The Covenant.

one would hope.

Also, I know this year has become a "Contend Now" season and I dont mean to drift away from the original topic. But IF almost everything goes according to plan. The 2021 White Sox season COULD get insane! 1. Kopech 2.Giolito 3.Keuchel 4.Cease 5.Dunning/Lambert CF Robert 3B Moncada RF Betts* LF Jimenez/Adolfo C Grandal/Collins DH Abreu SS Anderson 1B Vaughn 2B Madrigal/Garcia SCHWWWWING!

I feel the same way about White Sox expectations. The amount of potential within the offense is honestly scary. Scary good. The pitching staff on the other hand is what makes me a little bit nervous. I hope our 2 newly aquired vets can stay healthy. If they do stay healthy and Dylan Cease and Michael Kopech dont totally bust, I think our pitching staff will be among the best in the AL. I've already prepped myself to expect Rodon and Lopez both to have alot of time coming out of the bullpen after the break. Hey, more depth! We need depth when we have alot of question marks currently in the pen. I predict that TA will regress to about a .290 avg but Im sure he will be working hard on his OBP because Im pretty sure he will be batting leadoff until Robert is ready for that role. Abreu's numbers will probably decline as well, and as much as I love Jose, I feel batting him 5th or maybe even 6th in the order makes alot of sense and honestly if it helps the team I dont see why Abreu wouldnt be ok with that?? (If anynody has more knowledge about that situation please fill me in.) James McCann will regress, and I also dont think Mazara is all of sudden going to become a star, but I do think he will hit .260 with about 25 Dingers. Not too shabby if that happens. I think Grandal, Moncada, EE and Giolito will have similar seasons to 2019 which would be great. I think Eloy and Robert are going to just CRUSH the ball this year. I think Cease and Kopech are going to pitch great in the 2nd half and just keep improving. I think Collins, Madrigal and Garcia will all help in major ways. I think Ricky Renteria will do his thing. He seems like a great guy and him being bilingual is so huge for this team. IMO we will have our hiccups in the first few monthes especially with our younger pitchers, but an amazing 2nd half is something I can see this squad pulling off. *My HONEST prediction is 89 wins...Sox win the AL Central...Giolito, Moncada, Grandal, and Jimenez all make the All Star Team. Eloy in the Derby. Robert AL Rookie of the year* This is my verrrry FIRST and verrrry optimistic post on Soxtalk! Dont be too hard on my positivity and lack of statistics guys!! I think we can all agree that this team is going to be extremely fun and exciting not only for White Sox fans but for Baseball fans around the league. I have not been this excited for a team since Ventura and Big Frank were in our lineup! Lets Go White Sox!

Robert is younger and was better at every level. He’s more athletic and has way more value in every way, and did not come up to mlb and look like he couldn’t catch up to fastballs.

What I do know is we will hit the crap out of the baseball. We will scare opposing pitchers.

I don't see why the team can't win 117 games this coming 2020 season.

I like your thinking!

Strong Defense up the middle - Grandal, Anderson,Madrigal and Robert. Marginal defense from Eloy and Mazara but they can be substituted for in late innings to minimize that. Moncada is a potential All Star at the hot corner. If the Sox get out to big leads, corner outfield defense will become less critical. No worries about a guy tagging up and scoring in the 8th inning for a team that is behind by 7 runs. I agree with Steve Stone that this is the best White Sox line-up (for those of us who remember back that far) since the 1977 Southside Hitmen. Not sure about the starting pitching or the relievers but they might be more effective than expected. They will likely experience a lot less stress on the mound pitching with a big lead than worrying about every pitch in game after game. The Sox are are going to blow out a lot of teams with football score numbers. Then momentum will start to set in with the fan base and the team. Order extra fireworks. I predict that we win the division and then we go as far as luck will take us in the playoffs.

Easy no...doable yes.