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MLB Incel reports Steve Stone to the Rockies.

Steve Stone needs to smoke a joint and relax. He's an OFFICIAL mouthpiece of the White Sox. Being a jerkface isn't a good luck.

Stone comes off as a gigantic asshat on Twitter. He is just awful.

Oh lol of course I look on Twitter and found out that arendo was trending on Twitter

Yeah, that "Mike Trout" growth, where the thing you learn and change the most is your approach and strike zone knowledge - learning to attack only what you can crush. Yoan made the first step of that change last year - he attacked pitches he could crush. The next step is now working counts and drawing walks to the level he did before. Once he combines the two, you're talking about an elite of the elite.

OK so we want to go with a different measure than the home runs and walks you previously argued? I am not a fan of average exit velo myself. Obviously the harder you hit the ball the better, but that's in any given struck ball. Averages, even slotted into groups, don't tend to tell the story with enough reliability. And your stats leave out the fact that Collins just fails to make contact, far more often than Sheets. You can like Collins better as a prospect, for a number of reasons. But saying Sheets doesn't hit home runs or walk and Collins does is just not accurate.

His Achilles injuries not ankle injuries had nothing to do with his weight. Most of the people who tear them are the fit athletic people who ignore the tendonopathy which precedes the tear. Judging by some comments being made the second one was probably due to lack of dedication to rehab.

Tomorrow — “Arenado’s agent and Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf could not agree on waiving Arenado’s opt-out clause after the 2021 season in exchange for an additional year in 2027 and $26 million added to his contract. Arenado will remain with the Rockies.”

Obviously false. It’s one thing to tweet a trade that hasn’t taken place yet, but one that supposedly is done, and no one else has it anywhere? OK.

I feel bad that people actually think this could be legit

Hmm, suddenly this rumor is a lot more credible.

Him and TA. Love the feistiness but no reason to push it. Also very happy Moncada no longer has the flares that send him chasing into the RFer (like at 2b).

probably still punishing him for first two years / injury penalties. I do worry about how moncada will play through ailments.

This is just batshit. Nomar Mazara is 14 months older than Steele Walker. At Walker's age, Mazara had a 95 wRC+ in the big leagues. Steele Walker just had a 124 wRC+ at A+. Mazara's 95 wRC+ translates to around a 170 wRC+ at A+ - although that scaling isn't perfect for obvious reasons. If you think there's still a lot of development left in Walker solely because he was in A+ while there's no development left for Mazara because he was far too good for A+ at the same age, I really don't know what to say. You can't sit here and dream on Walker who has been 100% worse through the same age, while discounting the ceiling for a guy who was much more advanced at the same age.

Sheets hit 16 HR last season while playing his home games in a power-sapping park, and drew walks north of 10%, while playing (slightly) younger than league average age and in his second full pro season. The walk rates have been consistently there, and he has a power track record in college that is just now translating. Yes, he can, do both. He also strikes out far less often than Collins, who has some serious mechanical issues as a hitter. If you believe Collins can't catch and is really a 1B/DH, then putting Sheets above him or similar to him is not outlandish. I personally would still have Collins higher, but not by much and that's because I think there is still a chance he can do some catching as part of his presence on a roster.

False. Factors that may increase your risk of Achilles tendon rupture include Obesity. Excess weight puts more strain on the tendon. (Mayo Clinic).

Who else were they supposed to draft? The guy I liked at the time Nick Pratto, is terrible.

To be fair, old people yelling at the internet is pretty amusing. I've heard him talk about the Twitter stuff on the Score before and he truly believes he's owning "the trolls".

Boomerposting Ah it's so clear now why we didn't go after Rendon at all when he was just money. NA was the target all along.

So we can all bash this MLBIntel guy all we want but when Stone does, he's being a jerkface? He's not wrong. This is lazy, asinine "reporting" by a lowlife loser.

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One was an actual pursuit and the other is true fiction by someone who has posted 100 false things the last two offseasons.

Chuck garfien his source? Lol

I agree...but that won't stop me from refreshing trade rumors for the next three hours now though. Night is compromised.

But at the end of the day we would still all skeet over it and this deal...

Faker than Kim Kardashian’s booty

I'd make that deal so fast time would dilate. Madrigal is a nice player, he's hardly untouchable.

He was spot on with Mookie. He would tweet details and the boom national guys would tweet the same. I think he was getting lucky though. Who knows. Still fun to speculate

Agree the principles will move and the secondary pieces may have to be adjusted. I would guess Twins will stay as the 3rd team though.

We view Pau as part of the core

You're loaded like the Bulls, you stand pat as much as possible.

I think Jimenez will be a beast in 2020 with at least 40 home runs if healthy

Markkanen wants to leave. Good for him. Trade him. I hate the Bulls so much.

Oh and Encarnacion since you have to come up with an extra $40 million.

Trading any of the top prospects for one year of Betts at this point would be fucking dumb./thread

What does that have to do with future results? I think he's in a pretty nice neighborhood. Just remember the worst house in a great neighborhood is a lot better than the best house in a bad one. They guy will still be 24 on Opening Day. There are a lot of stars that would have had worse numbers if they were in the major leagues at the same age. The guy has a ton of talent. Hopefully, it comes out. If not, it was a good gamble.

Being in the big leagues at 21 years old is 100% related to ones skills/tools. There's nothing else that drives a player up through the system that quickly.

I view that 1980 list as a glowing endorsement of Mazara's talent and tools/ceiling - not a shot at his production through the age of 24. That list is littered with incredibly talented players who were significantly better than their peers at a very young age. That's an accomplishment on it's own.

He's 24 years old. If he was in AAA raking, people would be infatuated with his tools and upside. Because he has stalled out a bit at the big league level, people want to call him a finished product. Development isn't linear, and there was some underlying growth in Mazara's approach last year. Most guys are developing - whether in college or at A+ ball - at the age of 20/21. Mazara was preparing for his big league debut. That's a lot for some to handle; even moreso for a kid who has to assimilate into a new culture while competing against the best in the world. Mazara may suck, but his upside hasn't changed due to a few stagnated years of big league play. I'm not going to hold getting to the big leagues at 21/22 against Mazara - in fact, I give him huge credit for that. That jump may have been too soon for him, and he may have had things to work out of his game still at a developmental level. He didn't get that chance, so he likely developed some poor habits, and lost some swagger/confidence. The good news is the tools that accelerated him faster than 99% of his peers are still there, and that potential still exists, it's just been clouded behind the challenges of developing in the best league in the world. Unlike most, I give Mazara a lot of credit for being that advanced at that age, and it gives me a lot of hope that his development isn't finished, and a change of scenery may be the best thing for a kid who lost his way a bit on a really difficult and challenging journey.

There are 96 players that have at least 2000 PA since 2016 when Mazara was called up to the majors. Mazara ranks 93rd. But Mazara was extremely young during that time you say. True, so let's look at historical numbers. In the history of baseball Mazara is among only 267 players that have amassed 2000 or more PAs before turning 25. Among those he is the 257th most valuable. Since 1980 there have been 78 such players. Mazara ranks 77th. Only Delmon Young has been a bigger bust among players to garner significant playing time. But other guys have gotten better! Mazara is a guy! He'll get better!

PECOTA likes Robert more in 2020 than Yoan. Pretty crazy.

wow!

No doubt. He has an uphill battle. I've had a previous discussion on here, that I've never seen a person his age who ruptured it twice. I have no idea how the recovery will go, especially in light of the added problems from last summer. I'm going outside to use the snowblower, too old to shovel.

Obesity is a relative term. Nearly every athlete is obese as defined in the by BMI. It takes into account only the ratio of height and weight. It doesnt take into account body fat or muscle density. If your 6 foot tall you can only weight about 210 pound otherwise your obese. So in this scenario most athletes are susceptible to it. If you look at your list of risk factors one higher on the list than obesity is age between 30-50. He doesnt fall 8nto that category. This is more what you see in the clinic as opposed to an internet search. Edit: here is the article I was thinking of and I was wrong about the age. The overall age was 30-50 but for males it was 20-30. So he does fall in that range. However, obesity is not found to be a factor. 2325967118808238.pdf

All boils down to who gets the pitching. We have depth and upside on our staff. I like our chances. Yes...I know I'm bias.

Oh yea well how about everyone get a Moncada hat instead https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.12up.com/amp/posts/new-era-just-released-new-player-specific-mlb-hats-aaron-judge-jacob-degrom-and-they-are-terrible-01e03js111ns

The Sox have a better ability to absorb the injuries. They will have Kopech ready so they could bring him up. They don't want to but could if they are in contention early on.