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I think we need a poll decide what the poll items for this poll should be.

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Why not? Because too many people feel they have the right to do whatever they want and simply don’t care about anyone but themselves. If the Sox did everything you said (which is a very easy and workable plan), some people who go to the games would refuse to follow the rules, and enforcement would probably be tasked to a 70 year old Andy Frain who’s just trying to get out of the house and make a few bucks working at Sox games.

Don't see anything wrong. She replied to his tweet, he has every right to say something back.

Trevor Bauer did nothing wrong tonight. Don't interact with fans? Get criticized. Interact with fans? Get criticized. Bauer has a history and that's fine but today was ridiculous.

Rick: Lifelong Sox fan here. I won't bore you by establishing my bona fides, but suffice it to say that most who know me would agree my devotion borders on pathological. Opening day is a holiday in my house. I've hung on the team's every move for decades. I was excited and encouraged by the decision to move in a new managerial direction. I won't speak ill of Ricky Renteria, who was by all accounts well liked and led the team to a great season, but I applaud the front office for "thinking big" and readying the team for sustained postseason success. But I have been shocked to find my feelings of elation quickly turn to terror as rumors have begun swirling about AJ Hinch (or even Alex Cora) as potential hires. At the risk of revealing my naivete, I had never even considered they could be options. Perhaps they are not--but in the event there is truth to these rumors I wanted to make my strong feelings known, for whatever that may be worth. Like many fans, I have been profoundly troubled about the Astros cheating scandal over the past year. I've been baffled by the lack of accountability for some of its participants. While I was encouraged by the initial, and appropriate, reaction of shock and revulsion that met the scandal within the baseball world, I have been surprised by how quickly many have changed course and seem willing to "just move on" from an orchestrated scheme of fraud that infected the game's most basic competitive elements. I have often tried to imagine how I would have managed all this as an Astros fan, and have felt blessed that I never had to confront this question in anything but the abstract. So I ask you, please: don't force me into a similar position now. There's no question here -- while their roles differed, AJ Hinch and Alex Cora both led a team that cheated its way to a World Series title, then smiled into the camera as they accepted a trophy they knew in their hearts was tainted by fraud. They were *fired* by other teams--including the *Houston Astros themselves*--for their roles in this scandal. How could we, as fans, be excited about hiring either of them to stand as the face of the Chicago White Sox franchise? How would I explain this to my kids? It is more difficult every day to impress upon them that they must adhere strictly to moral and ethical standards that so many people and institutions brazenly trample when it's expedient. Please don't foist these ugly dilemmas on us, not in this corner of our lives. It has taken a century to recover from the Black Sox scandal that darkened this franchise's legacy. You hold that legacy in your hands now, and at a precarious moment. Please do not sully this organization for some minuscule (and questionable) perceived marginal competitive advantage. Go Sox.

Rick, If the choice is between a cheater and 76 year old To y LaRussa, hire the cheater.

I think they are using Bob with LaRussa to keep Hinch’s asking price down a bit. LaRussa? You have got to be bleeping me. It is scary they send Coop packing, is that to make room for Dave Duncan? If, for some reason this happens, they are going to have to fire Hahn and hire Hawk to be the GM, so someone can do the right thing and fire LaRussa.

lol

Has anybody mentioned Bochy?I thought he wanted to manage again and he would check a lot of boxes.

Uh if you give James McCann $19 million for next year, he will take it in a heartbeat and laugh all of the way to the bank.

The last time we brought in an A.J. with baggage we won the World Series. Hate it or love it, seems like Hinch is destined to be our next manager.

Robert is a better defensive CF. You are getting the same production regardless so this is just worsening your team for no reason. Engel would be a plus RF so at least you have premium outfield defense.

In a sport where domestic abusers get second chances, being involved in cheating doesn’t even rate. It would bother me a bit, but I would get over it.

This from a guy who is barely qualified to post on a message board about baseball.

Bochy is perfect for our team. Comes with a ton of credibility and would attract top-tier coaches as well.

Bochy would be a great get. Just read he said he'd be interested; I'd much rather have Bruce than Hinch. Met Bochy once at a bar in Milwaukee after a game when they were playing the Brewers; it was the night of the Villanova National Title game and the guy had like 75k on Nova. Really cool guy, and everything I've ever heard about him from anyone around baseball and on the Giants is that he's great.

This is one of the things that really bothers me about Bauer.

Bochy said he was ready to listen. Hope they give him a long look. Very well respected with more managerial experience than just about anybody. At 65 he's not a kid but I'll bet he would listen to a 3-year plan. Let Jirschele be his bench coach and learn from a pro. Old school sitting next to analytics. Sign me up.

So you can't back up your arguments, can't support your points, can't explain yourself at all... and now you are basically admitting you're not even reading the posts you're responding to fully? So basically you're a troll. Not sure what "2020" or "succint" has to do with YOUR complete failure to support your arguments with anything. But good to know you're just a troll who should probably be avoided. Again, if you can't even answer basic question posed to you, then you obviously don't have the answers and therefore your opinion/argument is literally meaningless. You failed to support anything because you don't have the ability to.

Those 3 options don't cover everything so I didn't vote. I prefer he not be hired but I don't care enough for it to affect my rooting interest. I'd take a look at people from Tampa Bay very closely. The same old names get thrown around so how about Matt Quataro bench coach of the Rays. Maybe he can bring along Dewey Robinson the minor league pitching coordinator of the Rays or Kyle Snyder the pitching coach.

If a coach tells his player to take PED's, that player is getting suspended. Some players said no and others said yes. Players should have been suspended as well.

Wow,.... That would be the dumbest thing ever..

How do we know this to be the truth? Without cheating, his teams sucked ass. With cheating, his teams did well. How can you trust that he has bona fide abilities as a manager? Again, he had an anemic .420 winning % without cheating. Even Robin Fvkcing Ventura had a .463 winning % as a manager.

I am going to parse this and first state that you are 100% wrong in your assessment here. Cheating has always been a part of baseball, even when there are rules against it. Pine tar, spit balls, sign stealing, steroids, speed, pitch tipping pitch framing, etc. When caught people pay their price, and then move on. Cheating to win has always been a part of baseball culture, and while penalized, it is something that has never, and will never go away. The argument has always been how much "cheating" is OK, how much cheating is going to get you in trouble, and how much cheating will get you in a LOT of trouble. Pete Rose didn't get banned for cheating. He got banned for betting on baseball. THIS has always been the thing to get you a lifetime ban. This goes back to the Black Sox. Playing to LOSE will also get you the ban treatment. Neither of those things happened here. The closest thing Pete Rose did was to tip off the professional gambling world to when he WASN'T willing to bet on his own team. But what he did was ALWAYS known to be a bannable offense. He also followed up his stupidity by flat out lying about it, and being proven a liar even when MLB seemed to be giving him an opening to get out of his mistakes. He might not have gotten banned if he had fessed up when he got this chance. Now we can definitely sit and argue all day about how bad Hinch's role was in all of this, if his punishment was appropriate and if the Sox should touch him as a manager. But what happened with Pete Rose is not an equitable item to what Hinch did.

us losing game 3, if we play this well, may be a blessing. lets be honest, had we gotten by Hou no way we beat the Rays. if we won game 3 and lost to hou or TB I have a feeling RR and Coop stay.

Yep. There were some urine down the legs moments from the relievers we really needed to step up at that time.

I'm bothered but it won't make me protest and boycott White Sox baseball. I do think it's a pretty big managerial characteristic flaw he had, and I also don't think he is the reason they won 100 games a year, but if he can run a bullpen, we will be better off.

Would love to see this at some point. Let me know when it starts

Giving a near championship ready team to a first time manager just because he is a fan favorite would be a failure by Hahn. I loved Ventura the player. I didn't love Ventura the manager. There is too much at stake here to experiment.

3rd wave? Nah, the first wave never ended.

Then you should have nothing to worry about explaining to them.

How about "it matters to me a little bit, but if he comes here and has the success we anticipate, I'm 100% fine with the move" as an option?

Think it's time to email your buddy Jerry again.

Someone is going to hire Hinch (and Cora for that matter), and maybe it will be the Sox. Whoever hires him will be questioned - by the media, by the fans of that team, by fans in general. Cheating aside, Hinch has proven himself to be a very good manager and will most likely be a great manager for a new team. He knows that he has to rebuild his reputation, and he also knows that managing a young, exciting team will be a good way to do that. There will be some noise early on; right after the hiring, before the season starts, and early in the season. But driving a team to success will go a long way to make people forget (or at least forgive). The Sox are really close to being a perennial contender and force within baseball. They need the right person at the helm to get them there. If Hinch is the right guy, he should be hired.

imagine a sox player getting busted for peds, some of you guys would be twisting yourselves into knots telling us why you still support them, that they just made a mistake, the mental gymnastics would be amazing I picked option two fwiw

I care but I don't think I care enough for it to bother me if he's the best man for the job, I just want a good manager and for the Sox to win a lot of games.

I want to make this simplistic. Aj Hinch is an intelligent baseball guy (Not mocking Hahn , promise) White Sox have positive media attention at the moment. Were the ‘Good guys’. We don’t need a manager that will be targeted. We have a potiental dynasty. I would hate to see it tainted by bringing it a controversial leader. This is a job that people want. Outside of baseball. Just basic business sense... If I have an opening for a leadership position and right out of the gate I have a target, I set myself up for failure. If ‘Person A’ is my target. Regardless on how Person A interviews; I will ultimately have a pro-bias based on that person being my target canidate. A leadership position is everything. For my business I want a performer that wants the job and bleeds pride and commitment over the person with prior success who thinks he deserves it. If Aj Hinch is the guy at the end; its not because he was targeted by this organization. It will be strictly based on his interveiw and potiental working relationship with the front office. It will happen naturally. This front office is way to deligent ‘target’ Aj Hinch. I think our next manager isn’t going to be somebody we aren’t speculating on.

Are A.J. Hinch and Alex Cora, renowned cheaters at this point, the best options this up and coming White Sox team have as their next potential manager? There is no one better who doesn’t come with all of the cheater baggage?

Let the record show that these posters do not support a Hinch hire. Baron, Harold’s Leg Lift, 35thstreetswarm, YourWhatHurts, JoshPR, black jack, Green Line, Jack Parkman, Blackout Friday.

IDGAF. Hire the best people. Once he's served his penance he's good to go IMO.

Speaking of managers and not just candidates, am I one of the few here that thinks Dave Roberts is an awful manager? I only follow him somewhat in the playoffs, but it seems to me he has made some horrendous managerial decisions over the last few years.

Over a hundred thousand post either linking or trolling other posters. Seriously get a life.

Its AJ. Pierzynski (j/k)

The decisions are expected, but the timing also gives it the air of a cathartic scapegoating w/o Hahn and upper management taking responsibility. GM Hahn was also responsible for not fortifying the staring pitching, picking up Mazara , Encarcion and then staying with them all season . Where was Hahn all season? He said nothing to Renteria? He stuck Coop with 2 starters? Come on Rick, take some responsibility. Renteria had to go and so did Coop, but personnel decisions were not exclusively in their domain.

That's almost worse lol

I'm sorry, I'll call your virtue signal and raise you people can be rehabilitated and deserve a second chance.