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Title and tags says it all. Got the offer to my email. Here’s the link: https://links.e1.theathletic.com/u/click?_t=1d75fd3a730a463c8648bd84293b832a&_m=821dfd6fd00548d3925e273a8e7cd6b0&_e=PaE1Mm7-a8hABhLTw7isj28AFHvEAQwG0W3f86HNeY2NI3zoSfwKv24kdzFV3_3zt2IaykLJ-UX5UBeoDcVknsvnwpOemwaZsm83QrUC5T-FGs9I_1rAVGAZm06JSz2hsr1dZADgJgoBPlX53lCvDL1MBiPvByYlnmeofSVayx7amiGTCHoaQPBLwySfLiAYCDc0k2uDHn9_gifERp5-vVpjBSyNIQgaz4v1-u2ePPK_wmsqpvjY3SXkG40S4MYOC5vJ0c4f3eXpgu6lL40ss2sEA-qOCmkJoJ2rCYNfDyGFuzRRQ19RAXFkUWK2AWGnJvBByu_kp1RosOY9YIA5M0pawmQD6EGWKMq7Klnk6sAq59U58fJsvH9GAR9f2X6T

the madrigal hate over that comment is absurd

One guy called a 6 year old the leader of their clubhouse. The other guy has a lot of confidence in himself. Why you think those two things are at all equal is truly baffling. One disrespects veteran leaders, the other does not.

Please pull a number and wait until yours appears on the screen behind the counter

From LOTS of previous past experience, the solution to these situations is usually to take a step back and get your priorities straight. I went through five years of criticizing everything Sox/Hahn/JR, it gets quite tiring, and it doesn't change the way the organization operates by one iota, so what's the point? I'll probably go to my grave arguing we would have won a World Series if we had kept Tatis (if we don't get another title in the next 5-6 years), but, in the end, repeating something over and over again doesn't make a point more valid or powerful, it does exactly the opposite. That's where the Tony Robbins-esque overly optimistic or rose-colored glasses posts were rubbing some the wrong way. At any rate, the only way to really learn anything new in life is to listen and observe, so posting less and arguing less will lead to a much longer and more enjoyable life.

June.

This thread is like watching a bunch of kids with sticks torturing a rabid possum that got caught in a window-well. Yes, it'll hiss and flip out every time you poke it. Just let the poor thing be. It's a beautiful Spring day and there's a ballgame on!

Yes, I’m not sure how i got dragged into this, but I really can’t see a valid complaint regarding Board Moderation here. I’ve taken the constructive criticism to heart and changed course. Having survived WSI for years including the night of the long knives, I can say for certain this place is much more accommodating to different view points. Ironically came to agreement over time from the one Mod I had on ignore until that option was disabled. Ragah, if you’re posting on good faith, sometimes letting things go is best for the soul, and ignore is a good option when people go personal. Peace.

Welcome to Soxtalk

Lol huh? Why would you ban me. Didn't realize you were holding yourself back for banning posters who *checks notes* don't post exactly what you'd like. Weird stuff.

If Kopech has that much back door movement to righties on that FB...oh my god.

Speaking of catchers, 40 years ago today, the White Sox announced they had agreed to terms with Carlton Fisk. It took another 9 days for it to be official.

If I read it correctly, you are suggesting linking ticketing systems to a CDC vaccination database that doesn't exist, and somehow relinking to the non existent database any time the ticketholder changes (via stubhub or ticket transfer). If I purchase 4 tickets, how does the database know who is using the other three? How does it even know I'm actually using one of them. And the only way I could imagine linking identities across medical records and ticketing systems would be to require SS #'s, which is a nightmare. And, to complicate things, none of this exists or is in process. Vaccination data is held in thousands of disparate databases, not centralized. Ticket data is in numerous databases. And the person at the gate is lacking medical training. Opening day is three weeks away. It would take years to develop the systems you want. I agree it would be awesome if this could be done. Its totally impossible, and doing something half-assed like requiring people to flash their Covid vax cards to an 18 year old kid at the turnstile would just give a false sense of security. Better to concentrate resources on enforcing distancing and masks in the park itself

Coupled with people overweight (BMI 25-29) or obese (30 +). https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

The vaccination cards are hand written on a piece of cardboard. In many cases people are writing the name and DOB themselves. With my limited photoshop skills I could create hundreds of them per day. And they can be transferred from person to person easily. There simply is no practical way to have people prove vaccination status reliably on entry. It would be pointless theatre designed to act as though it provides safety without having any actual impact.

1.1 WAR in 480 career games. He's an atrocious career hitter vs RHP and doesn't play very good infield defense, in my opinion. I would have liked to see the Sox sign an upgrade over him (Profar) to give themselves insurance in-case Leury & Mendick aren't suitable depth.

Epstein is great at building things. Pretty terrible at sustaining them, although Boston he did a better job (bigger budget to absorb misses in FA), and those 4 World Series teams stretched out across quite an extended time period (one officially goes to Cherington, but largely put in place by Theo). With the Cubs, it's obvious that it was a combination of pitching (lack thereof in terms of draft/development/talent evaluation), terrible FA moves and then just bad health or performance declines (guys like Arrieta and Kris Bryant, Arrieta reminiscent in many ways of the run Jose Contreras had in 2005-06). Then you have that "next generation" of prospects like Almora, Soler, Schwarber, Bote, Happ, etc., with mixed results at best, and little return on investment. Kimbrel was a killer, added on to Heyward, Darvish (first couple of years), Chatwood, etc. In a way, the Royals only had those TWO playoff appearances, but they were within a Madison Bumgarner post-season performance of all-time of winning two consecutive as one of the smallest market teams in MLB. That, to me, was even more impressive...despite them not being able to follow it up in 2016 and 2017. They also had bad luck with a combination of injuries (Moustakas/Cain), non-performance (Gordon) and Yordano Ventura's untimely death.

A few pertinent points from the Athletic article regarding I haven't seen mentioned (some or all of this may also be on the White Sox website): Tickets are sold in pods (1-6 seat pods White Sox vs. 1-4 seat pods Cubs), which has been discussed. What hasn't is the fact that at least initially, tickets resold must be in the same capacity. If you purchase a pod ticket for 4 seats, it is good for up to four people, but you cannot split it and say use two and sell the other two. Whoever shows up to the park with the ticket can bring in up to the designated total of guests on that ticket, and that is the only use allowed. Masks not meeting the clubs requirements (see further on the website) will not be allowed, the team will provide fans without a compliant masks with a disposable mask. There will be no tailgating allowed in White Sox parking lots. Food will be offered in individually wrapped options. There will be no $1 Hot Dog Wednesdays, at least at the start of the season.

I would have way more reputation points if I didn't get screwed by being the last post on a page often

Never be the last post on a page !

Wouldn’t Engel be a better late inning OF sub?

Yeah, that's even MORE annoying looking through posts and attempting to figure out what's going on. Plus, you have the "train wreck" factor of human curiosity that usually wins out. I can't imagine ever blocking a poster, simply because it's easier to ignore whatever someone writes than to go out of your way to NOT see anything, which actually makes their "absence" more noticeable than if you just "read around them."

There’s days when that helps

I think they may need to expand storage just to host all the posts you’ve made explaining why you’re not an ass hole. This been going on for months now

You're the one that started a problem with me by constantly saying "too stupid to argue with" because I broke down a couple of your fallacious posts. If anyone is an asshole of the two of us, it's you. I have never called anyone on this forum stupid. Ever. Yet some people push the narrative that I have so they can make themselves right. You can attempt to justify it all you want but on doing so you'd just prove me more right. Again, you have mods/admins who regularly sling shit/troll people yet I am being made out to be the problem and it is ridiculous. Maybe that's the problem. You can't ban people for breaking set rules and standards if the very people who set them couldn't follow them themselves. Like I said, why does it have to be WSI or this? How about a happy medium? Crazy? There's nothing crazy about taking a discussion seriously and expecting other people to take accountability for what they say. For some reason I seem to be the only one who needs to. If you think I am "crazy" then you haven't been on this earth long enough to truly see crazy. Like the White House the last 4 years. Hyperbole only defeats your argument more. Truth is you are speaking for a handful of people and not the whole board. And if you are, there is a major problem if admins being bullies is accepted but someone standing up to people is considered a disruption. That has become a really weird part of our culture today and it is perplexing.

I'd be in favor of a one year ban for anyone who gets tossed for this.

Do a flip

That’s not how I recall what went down. Tony wanted this, Hawk accommodated to start, but pushed a change in May when it wasn’t working out. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-06-22-8602140807-story.html

Ahh the days when there were clear choices in Sox message boards. We went from the "parents aren't home and we're in charge" upstart to the largest independent single team baseball fan site. Along the way some truly great content was created and is continuing to be created. Sometimes by assholes, sometimes by others. Lol I was always the old guy, now I'm actually an old guy.

If there's a place where people probably shouldn't throw their anti-whatever hissy fits, its at a ballpark or stadium where security is literally standing right there.

Per the email I received from my rep- I am a full season ticket holder since 1991. I was told I am in the "highest tier". "As a valued Season Ticket Holder, you will receive priority access to available tickets based on tenure and ticket package type. You will have the opportunity to secure a pod of tickets for the seven-game Opening Homestand (April 8-15), including the home opener on April 8. In the coming days, your White Sox Sales Representative will e-mail you additional details on timing, what to know and what to expect. Pods for future games will be made available at a later date as capacity announcements will be made on a homestand-by-homestand basis." So I am speculating that if we don't buy they will go back to the general pool for distribution. Given the scarcity of tickets, at least early on, I don't think too many people will opt to NOT buy the tickets- demand should far exceed supply. As vaccinations go up, the allowable base of 20% will also rise. Supposedly once the Chicago teams work out the logistics and procedures the next step is 30% of capacity (about 12,000 tickets).

You don't have to go back too far on my posting history to see those types. You don't have to go back too far to see the sacchariney-sweet types who can't handle any sort of "negativity." [Shrugs] LOL, yeah, there's a fair amount of those over here who don't like any sort of critique of any of the FOs in town... That said, I don't know if this org even SHOULD pursue a QB, given the awesome job they've done hereto fore in the four QB decisions they've made. But if it's Watson v. Wilson, I think it will more likely be the latter rather than the former. When the dust settles, I don't think this team will land either, in all honesty. I think it'll be in the Foles, Alex Smith, Sam Darnold, Ryan Fitzpartick level of QB.

Probably would be. I will be getting my second vaccination next week, but I have another medical condition that compromises my immune system. I will not pry into people's privacy. If I get the sense someone is not careful, I will stay away from that person. I am glad fans are being let back in, but I am not in a hurry to go out to the ballpark. Eventually I will, but I will still be careful on my own.

Wouldn't this be a HIPA violation too?

People are burning masks in protest and otherwise throwing fits about wearing a little paper or cloth over their mouth. Asking proof of vaccination will only cause more confrontations. No, I wouldn't want to be one to demand such proof. Don't need the grief from some jerk.

I don't think Tampa fans were like "oh yea Brady is coming here" when we all found out that he really was going to be a free agent. Weird stuff happens sometimes and you have to be ready.

I am just in the mindset that the possibility of two top 5 QBs trying to force their way out in one offseason is incredible, it is franchise altering, and I'm glad the Bears appear to be taking it as seriously as they are. As was the case when I died on the Mookie Betts hill, when incredible players become available, go get them. But it was important to distinguish best players in game vs just good to very good. And somehow, two incredible players are pushing to become available. It is why I'm getting so annoyed by Bears fan discourse that is so negative in pushing back because "it's never going to happen". It is in incredibly unlikely that franchise QBs move! It is another step in that that the Bears would be the ones that get them. So yes, the most likely outcome is that neither get traded, or get traded to a different team, but there is a much higher likelihood than there was in November that the bears could acquire a top 5 QB via trade. It is all about process right now. Two QBs are trying to move, the teams are reluctant to move them, and the bears need to do everything they can to make the move happen. But everything after that "you still have to build an oline!" "you still need to build the team around them" blah blah, yeah sometimes! Sometimes it works where the QB is added to an assembled team! Sometimes! But it is really hard to time, so just go get good players in football.

Lucroy to both. Mercedes is a DH (and deserves a legit shot), and Collins isn’t good at anything.

I know not the best team, or even among them, but that 2003 team should have done some damage. That team was crazy talented.

Bullpen arms are all over the place but obviously a lot to like about the Sox. I like the scenario that we have Rodon or whoever the 5 pitching and it's not going well. Say it's a 3-3 game with bases loaded and 1 out and we need to get out of a jam, La Russa can bring in Bummer or Crochet and still have the other one later.

They very much reduce infection and transmission, your information is from a very narrow reading of what the initial EUAs were filed for but since then there have been millions vaccinated and studies in places like Israel confirming what was already very likely. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-21/pfizer-biontech-shot-stops-covid-s-spread-israeli-study-shows Note, that topline number will be lower, but if you are vaccinated you are less likely to be infected and are less likely to transmit, but we don't know to what degree yet. But that is a substantial reduction of risk to the point that idea that you couldn't hold a concert because people may spread it outside is much more stringent than a "anyone can go to an indoor restaurant with some space between them" standard which currently exists.

Once again, post starts with numerous things I have never said and ignored what I am actually saying. You constantly say you will never engage with me again... and then respond to me again soon after (still ignoring the core of my posts, of course). Round and round. Maybe if certain people didn't cherry pick many posts, misquote me and throw around strawmen I might be a little less coarse. Something to think about. When people are civil with me, I'm civil with them. If you think I'm being an asshole to you then perhaps reassess your own responses to me. I don't respond well to having words constantly put in my mouth, as most anyone doesn't. Maybe don't start a post out with "OMIGOD," engage in a redundant and repetitive rant and then wonder why I call you childish. I say it all the time: you can put me on ignore. You don't. You constantly claim I'm not worth arguing with yet always return. Only thing I can assume is you like the attention.

OHMIGOD...your responses to everyone are "you are too stupid to follow my arguments" or "you are ignoring my obvious brilliance" or "your opinions are idiotic based on logic and reason". Then we get the insults about us being "childish" or "ridiculous". It's fine to have alternate opinions but your method of expressing them is SO condescending. I didn't start off by saying "you are too stupid to argue with"....I ended up there after dozens of assaults by you. I promised I wouldn't say that again and I won't. I just choose to not engage with you because honestly...you will bring nothing to the discussion. I have heard countless of your opinions as you comment on every posting and I never think " OH...a Ragah posting!!!! I can't wait to read what he thinks."

It is not an insignificant fact that Theo bowed out after 2020. He definitely didn't want to wear that

I've addressed those issues. But simply making a snide remark is not productive and it's not my problem if people are irritated because I take people to task. If you don't then there's really no point in arguing in the first place.

1917 for sure. Not sure why the Sox didn’t celebrate this team in 2017. Somebody wake reinsdorf up

I think the most likely scenario is that Rodon has the job out of spring training, gets hurt, Lopez carries it for a while, then Kopech takes it.