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Caulfield, easily one of the worst posts in Soxtalk history right here.

Rick Hahn was named GM in late October, 2012. He was assistant GM beginning in 2002. But just looking at his run as “the guy”.....he didn’t have a winning season in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019......it took a COVID-shortened season for him to achieve his first winning record as GM, and the Sox won one game in the Playoffs. He has been the man in charge for 8+ seasons and has 1 playoff victory to his name. No, I will not be apologizing to Rick Hahn. As others have said, it would be far more appropriate for the organization to apologize to us.

Bah…..apologize? He should apologize to us for how long we’ve been waiting and nothing has really been accomplished yet. It’s still early in the season but “we” should apologize? That’s ridiculous.

Vaughn had 2 of the 4 hits. That should earn him some time off.

It's always funny to see you stan for larussa over and over again.

Do we have to say sorry to Rick Hahn if this turns out to be another "developmental" year?

Ok, I'm game: 1. Apologize? For what, exactly? 2. Looking at Hahn's record as GM, what, exactly, has he accomplished? 3. Some of his key acquisitions over the years have taken a giant shit. Some that are CURRENTLY with this team haven't worked out, or have not worked out as well as hoped. Where has he been right, where most of us have been wrong? 4. This feels like trying to "spike the football" before crossing the end zone. Exactly what has been won in this season? Thanks in advance.

I have nothing against Rick Hahn, but I don't think I have to apologize to him. What am I, as a fan, have to be sorry for? Going on 13 years without a division title which is the second longest such stretch since divisional play began in 1969? The rebuild is shaping up, but the White Sox haven't won anything yet. We will see if this process truly works out and how serious this franchise is about winning.

Every metric has this team as one of baseball's best. Sure things can go wrong, but about 1/6 of the way this club looks pretty loaded. Even the fringe guys are doing enough, often enough to help the club win. At this point, and once again -- it's early, the greatest worry perhaps to have is that a richer club decides to give Hahn the keys this offseason.

No team has depth that can replace Jimenez and Robert, dude

I don’t mind Phil, but did he just call Jimbo a spoiled White Sox fan? How can anyone be a spoiled White Sox fan?

Elite man management, bro! Leury garcia has played 7 games in the past 7 days. Lol Meanwhile Vaughn, Yermin, and Madrigal have had 5 games off total. It gets dumber though because Tony was already wanting to play Jake Lamb today anyway because he can't have a game where at least two bench bats play, gotta keep them from getting stale while the starters have the texture of croutons because of how little they've played

Hahaha...deliberately trying to spark an argument, aren’t you? Well, Abreu, Grandal, Giolito, Keuchel and Hendriks have combined for something like -0.6 value, but the Sox are still sitting pretty with everything in the division resting on the Royals’ starting pitching somehow holding up. Right now, I would happily hand over the organization to the Brewers, Giants (new GM has hit FA pitcher after FA pitcher right on the head), Astros, Dodgers, Cardinals, Braves, Rays, A’s, Indians, etc., front offices and not even blink. Heck, I will throw in Kim Ng from Miami fir good measure. But, with the requirement there be a payroll floor of $150 million going forward in order to legitimately compete for a World Series title. A stronger GM stands in the way of JR and forces his owner to choose between sentimental heart/emotion and rational logic/pragmatism and risk mitigation, which Hahn mostly represents. If he’s actually as coveted as everyone claims, he should easily be able find another top position despite the clearly less than stellar FA and drafting record.

Ridiculous. You expected them to shell out big bucks for another bench player? Who exactly do you have in mind? No team in baseball would be able to replace the likes of Robert and Eloy.

Tauchman was available and the Giants got him for next to nothing. Plays all 3 OF spots very well. 3 run HR today. Dammit

This team has no depth.

Wait, I thought we were supposed to post apologies to Rick Hahn, what for I'm still not clear.

It's a strain of the muscle(s) which raise the leg in the air. Either the iliopsoas or rectus femoris.

BREAKING: Jake Lamb sucks ass

Oh my goodness. It just won't end despite all the evidence to the contrary. Giolito's xFIP is 3.2 - the lowest of his career. Unless you think Giolito is suddenly a 22.7% HR/FB guy, Giolito has been absolutely fine. His LOB% is 10% below his career average, and is actually 3.5% lower than it was in the year where he was the worst pitcher in baseball. Sequencing has gotten him, and ONE BAD INNING vs the Red Sox has inflated the heck out of his numbers. Giolito is FINE.

Lock this shit up and let the other dude start a game thread. Bad mojo already.

And you know he just wanted to start the thread because he wanted to make a point about the Cleveland team name.

Unwritten rule broken.

Tony La Russa's baseball IQ is so ridiculously high, most of us simply can't understand the moves he is making. He is truly a baseball savant. 300 IQ.

So fired up - Fields has so much upside. I heard a former gm on radio today - said he was being asked by so many why fields was falling on boards (media perception). Said he talked to scouts for multiple teams - who apparently said whose boards - cause he was the clear #2 qb on their boards and they weren’t moving any of the other guys with helium up. I think Fields at 11 could be the steal of the draft in a few years and if it isn’t - oh well. Go big or go home at qb. Let’s go!

How is it managed at Padres Talk?

Eaton clearly hurt, too. Benetti having too much fun to notice.

It's more about not being able to beat Cleveland. They're not a good team.

I've had jobs where if you didn't clock in on time they sent you home. I really don't have an issue sitting a guy who is a repeat offender at being late. It's all about accountability. Even Joe Maddon the most lax manager only had 2 rules, play hard and show up on time.

Vaughn needs to be playing every day now that Robert is hurt. Hes heating up offensively, he's fine defensively in left. There is no fuckin reason Lamb or Hamilton should be playing over him right now, regularly.

Nice shifting of the goal posts.

I don't blame La Russa one bit for scratching Mercedes for that. 0 excuse there. BUT I will absolutely blame him for hitting Jake freakin Lamb 5th in the batting order.

I mean most sports you show up to the game late your on the bench. Why can't he get to the ballpark on time?

Hall of Fame Baseball Person IS AWARE you can change the order, if you have a late scratch, right? I mean....you don't have to hit Jake Lamb 5th, just because Yermin was...

I know this has something to do with TLR.

I don't understand the good news.evenif its mild, which it didn't appear to be, he is going to be out several weeks. He still could miss a couple of months.

I mean the evidence was his job title was literally GM. I like Hahn but this insistence on giving hahn credit for the very very little success he's had in his tenure and blaming the failures on everyone else is laughable. Kenny, as GM, WON more than hahn and everyone blames Kenny for failures. It's wild.

I appreciate the awesome extensions, but as far as FA and actually winning and results, and basically the big picture go... Hahn is unequivocally a failure. It's really not arguable. You can blame Jerry for some of it and that is fair but how the team does is going to reflect on him and his FA acquisitions (and lack of them) for the most part have been abysmal.

Tbh, Yermin should start over Jose at least once during that series at 1B. Hopefully he's been working on his defense there. Jose has been bad and still hasn't gotten a day off. We need Yermin's bat.

Yermin needs to take accountability, his actions are hurting the team now.

Fact.

You’re a sadly obsessed person. I’m assuming it’s because they won yesterday and it’s his thread at this point. Honestly did not know. I joined late last season. Any other “unwritten rules” new posters should be aware of?

Mercedes showed up late and got scratched.

Yeah Roberson, not sure what to make of him. Still can’t believe bears got Fields. Absolutely crazy.

Wouldn’t a lineup change indicate there’s some type of physical reason why Mercedes was scratched? The Sox are 15-11. Try to enjoy our good team a little.

You really want to go there Tray lol? about other countries and their moral high regard for the treatment of human life? I'd be willing to be some of those same countries you find endearing have some of the worst overall human rights issues in the world... nothing against elderly people... but most people are long retired by age 76 - let alone in one of the most high pressure jobs in the world. That's not even me saying Tony's problem is his age....but to act like that suggestion is beyond reason is silly. If we won the series - make no mistake it would be the oldest coach in the history of professional sports to do so.. by a pretty good margin.

Rick Hahn is amazing. We are lucky to have him. Some people in our LaRusstans discord group were talking about making Instagram stan accounts for Ricky/Jerry/Tony/Kenny so they all know how much they’re appreciated.

nah bro.. he doesn't have a fucking clue. We could win anyway despite... but its not shortsighted over overblown.

Dominkk I see you do this all the time, and I love your enjoyment of metrics, but this is just not how they were meant to be used. The projectability of 47 ab's (the total amount Vaughn has) using his current statistics has an R value still well south of .5 (sitting around .32-.42 depending on which stat you're looking at). That means even his entire sample still isn't yet a great indicator of what he's going to be as a hitter in his next AB or his next 100 AB's. By taking the sample down even smaller, to being L/R splits, you are dropping the R value down to .25-.32 depending on the metric you are looking at. The only thing that sees an R value near to past .5 over 50 AB's are K/BB metrics, and even then it just creeps over. It is typically the fastest to normalize. There is no need to take a small sample and make it smaller and start drawing conclusions on what Vaughn can and can't do. Is it possible he has been more comfortable vs lefties than righties this year? Sure. Is it predictable to the point of making a decision based on it? No.