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34 years old, $103 million in career earnings. He should have a lot of fun the rest of his life.

I will tell you this - your statements that the players are going to cave and the owners are right to offer them nothing disagrees with your statement just now that service time manipulation needs to be changed.

Eloy literally wrote an article for the Players Tribune called “I’m Ready” while the white Sox were saying he had to “check the boxes”

I literally quoted someone named..."Lucas Giolito", whoever, that is, in a post earlier today. I guess maybe that person is fake?

Have you followed this topic at all? The players are saying exactly this. They owners aren't responding to proposals and are refusing to talk about economic topics. The news is out there, no idea why you are ignoring it.

Second thought - you know what? I hope we don’t see. I hope the owners recognize that there’s a legit problem and make a fair counterproposal and this gets solved without losing games. But what I fear is that the lack of any reply by the owners and no fair proposals made means that the Avenue you and Reinsdorf advocate of letting the lockout continue forever to finally break the union is exactly what the owners will do.

Poop!

Neither of us can prove his position to be correct. Time will tell.

We will see, won't we?

Hope you get well real soon. You're right. Covid is no joke. It is not a creation of Bill Gates or some other liberal monster. Things would have improved quicker if people took it seriously. Save the paranoia for something else.

Madrigal was drafted in 2018 and was promoted to the big club in July of 2020. I don't know if Madrigal felt "well paid" or not but he would have a very little argument about being held down improperly IMO. Kris Bryant was drafted in 2013 and after a great Spring in 2015 was still sent out for more "seasoning". Most fans think the motivation was service time rules rather than his readiness. I don't disagree and have stated that something needs to be tightened up for what seem to be service-time abuses. Those abuses are not frequent and very hard to prove. The White Sox have brought up players earlier than normal and done an excellent job of extending them pre-arbitration IMO.

Get better ace!!!

Wasn't Madrigal (average to above average) upset that he was held down until the Super 2 deadline passed because it meant he'd lose a year of arbitration? Therefore, he's not feeling "well paid" at the time (cause he was being held in the minors) and feels it's hampering his future opportunities. And if they change that rule, isn't that for the betterment of future players? Cause you said they're only arguing for current players. But somehow, this is about the mega contracts???

You have reading comprehension issues. Be well.

I didn't say anything about legitimate reasons to fight for more gains. I have said repeatedly that "the average player" feels well paid IMO and doesn't want to miss very many paychecks. This sitting out the year crap is just not going to happen. No one is dying on any bridge that I know of. I have stated my view until I have no other way to state it. Come back when the lock-out ends. In my view, it will be sooner than you think.

At least this kills one angle of the "sign Seager and shift Moncada back to 2B" talking point.

The Sox definitely did the extra year of control with Madrigal. Like, hilariously so.

I give up...the lockout will go on indefinitely. Thanks for the enlightenment.

No one is saying it shouldn't be closed.

Who said anything about tough enough? I am saying that most players have little to gain by going to the mat over the arbitration issue that unfairly screwed over Kris Brandt. I think some language can fix that issue since it happens very infrequently. As I have said many times...most of these issues like universal DH are going to be passed with little opposition. Ironically...the biggest injustice I see in baseball is in minor league compensation and living conditions. This work stoppage has nothing to do with fixing that situation.

Kopech?

What sellout are you referring to? Am I supposed to support employees against employers just because you say so? Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me wrong. Perhaps you should try to understand the other guy's point of view. All I hear from you is owners are bad and the players are good kind of claptrap. By the way...this Uncle Tom nonsense is for people unable to defend their point of view.

Watch! It's far more than remotely true. The Kris Brandt thing is their most legitimate complaint and that affects relatively few people. Literally, no one from the White Sox has been jerked around over the qualifying time issue. As a matter of fact...many posters blame the WS for not playing the qualifying time game with Kopech.

Cash Considerations returns to right the wrong of GarPax's past.

I had Pong as well. I was in college when Madden came out.

Narratives getting blowed up left and right.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/12/britton-giolito-and-semien-discuss-lockout.html

Zaza Pachulia.

If this were even remotely true, they would have caved to the owners demands months ago and avoided a lockout entirely.

The number of players willing to sacrifice a full year of their short careers will be very small indeed. Those long-term gains you speak of would perhaps benefit future players but not many players who are currently in the system. Employees frequently accept deals that create different classes of employees for current and future employees. Employees always seem to vote to improve their current situation rather than strike for future generations. This has happened in many industries including auto and airlines to name a few. I just don't believe that the majority of players are feeling badly treated and underpaid.

Leury Garcia starting at second base isn't the plan.

The owners will be satisfied with what they have. They will not be satisfied to make less money so that the players can have more. The fan will be paying for whatever it is that the players win. This is a no-win situation for the fan IMO.