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This is all so stupid. The players aren’t even asking for very much. Their ideas are nothing compared to what the owners will make on jersey patches and expanded playoffs. It’s just 8 short-sighted owners being shitheads essentially.

I like both of the lists posted, although I think Burger at 19 is way too low especially considering that there are 15 more DH spots to fill. I think this system is pretty top heavy with a significant drop off after around 10 or 11. I basically put them in these categories: Long-term Upside Bats: Montgomery and Kath Its way too early to make any sort of predictions for these two, but they were highly regarded picks that did nothing to dampen the excitement. An aggressive and optimistic schedule for these two would have them up in 2025, so these two will be part of the next wave assuming they arent moved in the more immediate title window Short-Term/ Decent Upside: Colas, Cespedes, Rodriguez and Ramos These four have some pretty solid upside and can possibly contribute by the end of 2023. Colas' readiness is pure guesswork at this point, but he was successful in Japan as a 20 year old which is impressive. I watched Cespedes a few times last year and thought he moved very well in the outfield. Cespedes might be a decent barometer for what we might expect from Colas after a year out of competitive baseball. Yoelquis showed impressive power and speed but the K and BB rates were less than ideal. I can only imagine hell improve after getting some reps last year. Rodriguez had a break out year last year and may been the long term answer at 2B. As said before, ZiPS LOVES Bryan Ramos. Ramos is entering his age 20 season and despite never playing above high A, ZiPS has him as a 0.8 WAR player next year which is hugely impressive. What prompts the all caps LOVES in the previous sentence is that ZiPS has him as a 2.9 WAR player in 2024. Szymborski is releasing his ZiPS top 100 prospects next week and I wouldnt be surprised to see him included considering hes projected to be a near all-star at 22. Lower Upside bats that are ready: Adolfo and Burger Neither figures to be an all-star but both could be a big factor this year. Burger is a tier above Adolfo and is more of a "prospect", but I can see either playing a role in 2022. Adolfo needs baseball to start back up more than anybody because he needs to make the most of his spring training audition. Pitchers with something to Prove: Kelley, Thompson, Dalquist These three were probably the biggest disappointments of the minor league season last year. Kelley pitched 23.2 innings last season between Kanny and ACL with a 7.61 ERA and a 2.11 WHIP. Thomspon also split time between Kanny and ACL and had a 5.99 ERA and 1.68 WHIP over 73.2 IP. The plus side with Thompson was that he had 78 Ks and that he finished the season on a strong note with 2 scoreless starts (9IP combined) to end the year. Dalquist pitched exclusively in Kanny and had a 4.99 ERA and 1.72 WHIP over 83 innings. He struck out 79 but walked a pretty disappointing 56 batters. He also only gave up 1 homer despite a relatively high fly ball rate (he had a 5.94 xFip The positive on each of these guys is that they were young for Kannapolis and that Kanny was a tire fire last year and nobody really succeeded. Theyre also all prep-guys that lost a year to COVID so it isnt too big of a surprise that they struggled. If they dont make a step forward this year, the worrying can begin. High Upside pitcher : Vera I couldn't put Vera in the same category as they guys above him, despite not taking TOO much stock in his DSL dominance last year. He's probably on the same timeline as them, but I think at this point his upside is just way more believable. He is 6'4 200 with a rocket arm, multiple quality pitches, and by all accounts a very repeatable delivery. All of that suggests that he can stay a starter and can be challenged in the next year. Despite a lack of a consensus top 100 guy (or really any top 100 guy) the Sox are not your typical 30th ranked farm. The upper levels are very weak pitching wise and the Sox are pretty tapped out on upper level hitting prospects beyond Rodriguez and Burger, but there is a good core of under 20 talent in the system. With some success in the draft and IFA market the Sox could be back in the middle of the pack sooner than later. I could see pathways for any of Montgomery, Kath, Ramos, Rodriguez, Colas, and Vera (outside chance of Cespedes) to make the top 100 in 2023. Vera and Ramos have the most helium and Kath and Montgomery have the prospect pedigree working for them. Colas and Rodriguez are guys that are probably inside most evaluator's top 150 and are a good season away from being bumped up.

The players are being completely reasonable. I see nothing wrong with their asks. The owners should not be given a hard, low-ish CBT without a floor with it. I think a cap and floor would actually be ok. The CBT is a de facto soft cap. Idk what the players don't realize about that. They have already agreed to the luxury tax in the first place. It would be better for the players if every team HAD to spend $100M. The stars will still get theirs.

You read way too much into very little information.

Why would you think either side is going to come up with something anywhere near their best offer until there are a couple of seconds left on the clock?

Carson Montgomery - SS Norge Vera - RHSP Wes Kath - 3B Jose Rodriguez - SS/2B Oscar Colas - OF/1B Yoelqui Céspedes - OF Bryan Ramos - 2B/3B Andrew Dalquist - LHSP Matthew Thompson- RHSP Jared Kelley - RHSP Micker Adolfo - OF Erick Hernandez - OF Sean Burke - RHSP Tanner McDougal - RHSP Romy Gonzalez - SS/UTL Yolbert Sanchez - SS/2B Jonathan Stiever - RHSP Jimmy Lambert - RHSP Jake Burger - 3B/1B Gil Luna - LHRP

According to one poster, there was going to be no baseball from 2020 through 2023.

It’s officially prospect ranking season and with nothing else to discuss baseball wise at the moment, I thought it’d be a fun exercise to outline our own rankings. Feel free to do more or less, but 20 is usually a good number before you start getting into fringier territory. Here is my list: Colton Montgomery, SS* Oscar Colas, OF* Wes Kath, 3B* Norge Vera, RHP Jake Burger, 3B Jose Rodriguez, 2B/SS Bryan Ramos, 3B/2B Andrew Dalquist, RHP Matthew Thompson, RHP Yoelqui Cespedes, OF Sean Burke, RHP Jared Kelley, RHP Romy Gonzalez, SS/OF Jonathan Stiever, RHP Jimmy Lambert, RHP Yogurt Sanchez, 2B Tanner McDougal, RHP Jason Bilous, RHP Lenyn Sosa, SS Misael Gonzalez, OF Just missed: Micker Adolfo, Luis Mieses, Christian Mena, Wilber Sanchez, & Brooks Gosswein.

I just love seeing anyone in the batting cage. My brother and I were planning to see a game at Winston Salem this year anyway. Now I might move there.

I think you're being sarcastic but union players are not allowed at team facilities during the lockout. Owners should definitely be making the facilities available for the minor leaguers/non-40 man guys.

Ah, missed it, my bad.

It won't take until April 10th IMO but I agree with your reasoning.

When you make those decisions now, be forthcoming about previous mistakes. “I won’t be a fan of this team if they do this, and tolerating this behavior in the past was a mistake” is a good start. Open to ideas of steps that could be taken to rectify those past mistakes if you want to suggest them?

Reacher is a great show. Alan Ritchson is a must better Jack Reacher than Tom Cruise. Looks the part and delivers the dialogue like I'd expect the character in the book to. So far it seems to be following the book (Killing Floor) pretty well.

That is fair, but I also believe if we want to hold to that standard now then we have to face up to the times where we did not.

February 27th. Lots of progress will be made this week, and we'll hear Sunday afternoon that a deal has been reached.

I've become more aware and less forgiving.

I'll go with March 5th. They'd still get their full season and expanded playoffs in.

The owners were/are willing to lose games because they’ll make it all up and then some with expanded playoffs. The players know that. MLBPA has made it clear to the owners that they won’t approve expanded playoffs unless they play a full schedule. It’s a smart piece of negotiating by the players.

March 16th This is all just so depressing for me.

I said Feb. 28th in other posts and I'm sticking with it.

I'm out if they sign him and that's not hyperbole.

Fixed for you.

Am I the only one that thinks his name is Will Bauer now?

Consent is not a defense to something that is illegal good grief.

I'm putting my rankings together, can't wait to release it.

I'm 27. At the rate this is going, I'll see a billion dollar contract in my lifetime.

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