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I’m definitely for ties after 12, but if the man on 2nd rule continues, play the 10th and 11th regular, and then start it in the 12th.

I don’t have a strong preference one way or the other, but the current structure allowed a psychopath agent with a gun to keep the Sox from signing Starling Marte so maybe it could use an overhaul ?‍♂️

Mumbles something angry about a person who insisted the players would cave…

The union is getting blasted for this. I can’t believe something that makes so much sense due to the corruption is causing all these issues.

That turns into teams with the most money wins. The Dodgers would be the the Yankees of the 20's and 30s winning all the time because they bought the other teams players. As long as you don't mind the NY, LA teams winning everything every year, you can have it. Talk about pure capitalism at its best or worst depending on your view.

Who gives a shit what this cheater thinks. Very few players I'm more tired from hearing from than Ortiz. Shame he has such an impact on DR players.

This would be problematic for a lot of reasons.

Again, we didn't watch the same teams if you watched this in July and thought this is going to win in the playoffs The set up men were TERRIBLE.

If you think the Sox bullpen didn't have major problems at the trade deadline, we didn't watch the same July of baseball.

It's going to be a very bad look MLBPA to not take this deal at this point. (Assuming the proposal is accurate)

They could have had both.

They're definitely trading him. My guess is it will be for a package of minor leaguers then they will use those players as part of another trade.

they would like to keep fucking with everyone into the night

Or with Cincinnati or Baltimore or Milwaukee. Or if you're a pitcher, you'd never sign with Colorado. Yeah, not having a draft seems pretty stoopid.

You're not going to sign with the pirates, that's for sure.

No one is entitled to a specific type of job or company. You act as if these guys aren’t baseball players then they’re unemployed for life. If they want to be a MLB player, then they have to potentially play for the Rockies or Pirates for a period of time. If they just want to play baseball for a living, they can go to Japan. Stop trying to make every labor situation into a massive immoral dilemma. And aren’t you the most pro union guy in the world? You do understand how seniority works right? Doesn’t seem like pay for performance is what you actually care about.

No one convinced me to be a fan of the local team. It's called logistics and exposure Jack. I can't drive to Anaheim to watch trout after work. Local things are more relatable. Also, how are nfl and nba like that? Those leagues have drafts.

There are ways to eliminate the draft that still maintain competitive integrity.

I blame Ortiz. Fuck that guy.

This is destroying the sport and there won't be a Sosa or McGuire to save it this time. What a complete embarrassment and clusterfuck all the way around.

No I don't. Explain it to me. Are you against free agency in general or do players have to earn it by playing for ridiculously low wages for a few years while owners rake in huge profits?

I don’t see what’s going to change in the next few weeks regarding international draft issue. Personally, I have no desire to get invested in a season of 60-100 games again.

Can we stop characterizing the making of proposals and options as trying to "sneak shit in." As far as everything that's being reported, it sounds like MLB is trying to be flexible and creative to get a deal done. And yes, of course some of these things benefit their side. That's a negotiation. I think a lot of people have become so anti-owner in this whole thing that they can't see what's happening objectively.

Well then the owners should stop trying to sneak shit in at the last minute so they can manipulate it down the road.

Do you think the current system is what is best for the kids in the DR? You'd have to be insane to think that. They get shopped and peddled around as 12-13 year-olds by guys who take a chunk of their signing bonus.

Ideally, yes. But as you can see, when there is a contentious negotiation, nothing gets done until consequences are relevant. Losing games is the only thing that has spurred true negotiations.

Why don't Americans get afforded the same flexibility then? In what other major sports league can a player just go wherever they want? Just international soccer I think (if it's even the case with the EPL, I believe it is).

When are these assholes going to realize they are not enemies of one another. They should be working with each other for the betterment of the game, the betterment of the collective communities in and around the game. Instead, they are working against one another.

Please, we’ve known an international draft was likely for …what 6 years? If the players didn’t agree to a CAPPED budget I’d think it’s reasonable but this system is horrendous. The players are being dumb, and the reporters are lapping it up due to their own experiences in a shittier system.

50 mil pool, and up CBT by 1 million each year on MLB side and END THIS.

I don't get why the international players even get their own draft. The NHL and NBA do just fine with an all encompassing draft. Set the eligibility terms of each set of players and then subject everyone to one entry draft.

To think David fucking Ortiz is having significant pull on the international draft component is so ducked up. The guy is probably exploiting kids down there for MLB. Probably why he got shot.

It's almost as if taking 6 weeks off from the negotiation process has had a determental effect on the proceedings.

This is where negations should have been two weeks ago! And don't give me that "it only got this way because of the time crunch". Talk about a fait acompli.

Woof. This isn't getting solved today. Players are being greedy. Sorry for those that disagree, but they've got a really good deal on the table here. Once far far far better than the existing CBA.

I think they were hoping the players would blink first, and they didn't. I still don't get the months that went by without formal negotiations.

I don't know. For 97 or however many days this damn thing has been dragging on the owners had zero interest in negotiating anything but now all of a sudden they're willing to negotiate everything. Sure we'll raise the cbt limits! Sure we'll raise the min salary! Sure we'll raise the pre-arb pool! You want us to remove draft pick compensation...sure we'll do that too! You get a car! You get a car! You get a car! I'm not buying it.

They desperately needed relief help, and they got the best one on the market, along with another really good one.

Players are just using it as a chip. They really don't care they just want to act like they care about the draft. CBT, bonus pool, minimum salary are much bigger priorities. The MLBPA has typically had no issue bargaining away the rights of the players that are not yet in the union.

Good for the players like Ortiz. Use your clout to make sure the academy’s have a softer landing from the unwinding of this horrendous system that allowed them to profit on the backs of children. Won’t somebody please think of the buscones?

Yeah drafts are good, because they are fun. Wouldnt following international markets be more fun if we knew of these guys before a draft and then saw who are team picked, instead of getting a list of the top thirty players in January that all already have handshake agreements in place with the teams? Of course it would. We should also ban trades. Just make a really miserable sport to follow.

Yeah I never predicted the cancel culture would come for drafts

Tatis father was an MLB player and probably shielded away from the underbelly of this practice. Tatis didn't even get a large bonus and was not even a highly regarded prospect. The international draft, salary floor and cap work in other sports yet in baseball it cannot??????? Agents and closed books are what is killing this sport.

I'm not gonna lie, I kinda agree. It will be hard to argue to hold out for more considering the percent raises so many would get and what is likely to be a frothy market to follow the end of the lockout. BUT the introduction of an INTL draft likely just needs to be executed through. Players already gave up the goose in terms of Compensation to that group of players with the hard cap budget, but freedom of movement now would be taken away. That said, hard to give up all that for some 16 year olds and I think they all know this system sucks.

Hector and Fernando....our dream duo

So just to jinx to any hopes of a CBA being agreed to in the next 24 hours, below is a new offseason plan that pushes our payroll to the absolute limits of the new CBT. While I'd rather not trade Andrew Vaughn, this plan assumes he's moved in a package for Ketel Marte with the Sox then rolling with a Sheets / Burger platoon at DH. How happy / mad would you be with this offseason? To me, this firmly places the Sox as the best team in baseball heading into Opening Day, but feel free to rip away if you disagree!

If we learned anything from last week, don't put much stock in what the media is reporting. It does seem like the sides are much closer than they have been, but depending on who you listen to/read: 1) A deal seems likely today 2) More games will be cancelled, and there was never going to be a deal 3) Passing out bagels to hungry people is cool

The Dodgers and 11 other teams.