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You're not supposed to get upside like this with the 26th pick.

I don’t think selecting Schultz is going to end Longenhagens jokes about how Shirley only selects players within a drive from his house

Never once cared about this

Imagine if he was a Yankees prospect how much tweets about it from the national guys would be happening

Playing Eloy in an even tougher defensive position, one that he's never played in the major leagues, doesn't strike me as a particularly good idea.

Montgomery homer!

re Cubs attendance, who fucking cares? If tourists want to flock to overpriced faux nostalgia, let them. Less dumbass tourists to navigate through going to the places that I enjoy. Also, always and forever, fuck the Cubs.

Doing the opposite of what that guy did is an excellent plan.

But James...I want him to sign for that.

Nothing beats Caulfield making one of his attendance threads after 1 home game in the 2021 season that had limited attendance due to covid

Andrew was hitting .349 on the road coming into this one. Hitting .343 with 2 outs. .330 with men on .357 RISP .571 runner on 3rd with 2 out .381 2 out, RISP .352 in high leverage. He's got a bit of that dog in him.

Crawford is a reliever and a 1B/DH. He's Rick Hahn's wet dream.

It is gross but when Eloy and Luis are unavailable and Pollock can’t hit RHP and is 0/19 at Target Field this season….I get the lineup.

Menechino and Lynn. To be quite honest, Menechino's firing is more important for me right now than getting rid of Tony. The offense hits and a lot of this stuff about Tony becomes more irrelevant.

JR didn’t win anything, my fandom is my own and I can’t control everyone else’s. I don’t worry about outdrawing the cubs like you do because it doesn’t matter to me. Also outdrawing the cubs doesn’t mean an instant 200M payroll

God Swisher is such a pud

Yay! Now less handwringing from people who don't know how the draft works about him possibly not signing.

Realizing I subconsciously kept associating Dylan Beavers as an OSU outfielder.

Why do people mentally store prep failures differently than others? How many shitty college pitchers have we drafted since Honel? Yes prep pitchers have a lower hit rate but at 26 you also get a chance at a real impact pitcher.

You have the weirdest takes when it comes to draft stuff.

Gilbert to Astros. That is a match made in heaven/hell.

Reached for a player who's going to be hard to sign. Maybe they just didn't like this class and are going to punt the pick to next year. Everyone seems to like the pick though; I guess high risk/high reward.

is difficult to get much more exciting than the tall and lanky, 6-foot-9, 225-pound lefthander. That’s just what Schultz is, and he has that size plus impressive stuff, with a fastball that’s touched 98 mph this spring after mostly settling in the low 90s last summer on the showcase circuit. While Schultz flashed bigtime stuff this spring, he was also not seen frequently, after missing much of the spring season with mono. He draws Chris Sale and Randy Johnson body comps, but unlike your typical tall pitcher who will rely on a longer arm swing for leverage, Schultz has a shorter take back and hides the ball extremely well before releasing from a low, three-quarter slot, adding even more deception to an already tough look for the hitter. While Schultz has impressive body control for his size, he’ll need to fine tune his fastball command as he can be scattered in the zone at times. Schultz has a lot of confidence in his 80-83 mph sweeping slider that can surpass the 3,000 rpm mark. Scouts are impressed with how he dictates the movement and shape depending on the count, adding sweep for the punchout. Capping off his repertoire is an 81-83 mph changeup, thrown mostly to righthanded hitters. Schultz has huge upside, but is expected to be a tough sign out of a Vanderbilt commitment. This was BAs eriteuo

White Sox negative for Hjerpe~

It is so dumb when picks can’t be traded that we are forced into this farce as if it’s same as NFL

Nice starts from Kelley and Davis Martin, Kelley's ERA is down to 3.64. It's encouraging to see him getting good results. Kath 2-3 BB Popeye 2-4 3B RBI BB Yoelqui 2-3 HR SB Sosa 1-3 Yaz 0-2 BB

He should.

Or a good manag... nevermind.

Possible Targets Andrew Benintendi - .335/.401/.432 vs. RHP. Can play LF fairly well, but no RF experience. Also not a whole lot of power with an ISO of .084. Brandon Drury - .261/.333/.469 vs. RHP. Not a LHH, but has hit righties alright this year. Fluky looking numbers compared to his career norms and not a real good defender at 2B or in the OF. Ketel Marte - .257/.364/.437 vs. RHP. This is a bit of a pipe dream. He just signed a very fair long term extension so I doubt he'd even be available unless you overwhelm Arizona with an offer. Bryan Reynolds - .251/.342/.498 vs. RHP. Also a pipedream since we probably don't have the prospects to acquire him. Other teams with more prospects are interested. Tyler Naquin - .258/.333/.470 vs. RHP. Probably one of the more realistic targets as he won't require much to acquire. You can probably platoon him with Engel and get decent production in RF. Ian Happ - .252/.352/.421 vs. RHP. I honestly thought he had better numbers vs. RHP, but he's actually killed lefties this year. His splits were the exact opposite last year. He's got one more year of arbitration after this one, so he might require a bit more to acquire. David Peralta - .253/.310/.471 vs. RHP. Nothing to really write home about, but it seems like this guy has been brought up on the Sox' radar for years. Josh Bell - .318/.397/.502 vs. RHP. Easily the best hitter of the bunch, but is another 1B/DH type. He has played RF before, just not all that well. It'd be like putting Sheets out there, but with a way better bat and a switch hitter. Definite upgrade, but not without its downsides. Josh Rojas - .276/.333/.436 vs. RHP. Can play a lot of positions, is also not arb eligible until 2024, so he's very cheap. Not sure how willing the Diamondbacks are to trade him. Kole Calhoun - .222/.274/.389 vs. RHP. He kinda sucks and has reverse splits this year somehow. Joey Gallo - .182/.309/.384 vs. RHP. He's pretty much Gavin Sheets vs. RHP this year, so it's not great. But if you can take him out of NYC, maybe he plays better? Ramon Laureano - .213/.279/.366 vs. RHP. Great defender, mashes lefties, but sucks vs. RHP. Doesn't exactly fit what we need.

Kiley McDaniel just came out with his last two round mock. Would absolutely love this!!!! 26. Tucker Toman 62. Jackson Cox

That's my biggest problem with Jason. He tries too hard to always be funny and entertaining rather than just calling the game. A little bit is fine but he does way too much.

Josh Harrison now has a higher OPS than Gavin Sheets.

Tough inning for Smith, 5 hits, 3 homers and they pull him right before he gets to face Leury.

Twins are tanking this game so the Sox don’t make changes at the break

Archer is so cocky i hope we smash him

The Cubs don’t matter until Reinsdorf is gone. The real priority is getting a quality owner to replace him when the time comes and not some group led by his boob of a son.

I prefer we go best talent signable at 26. After that when you are looking at groups of similar talent, I hope we go very heavy pitching. When their are talent clusters, I hope we grab lefties in both pitching and hitting as their seems to be a dearth of both in our system. Adding Montgomery, Colas and Kath was a start to getting some lefties.

Rick told us if we sat through 3-4 years of tanking, which incidentally wasn't much different than Hahn's first seasons, the Sox would be playing in a "multiple championship" window. Sir, when can we expect this phase to begin? Is it a "personal vendatta" to hold management accountable for what they promised but failed to deliver?

Great, now Tony will be replaced by Omar Vizquel.

The lovable loser stuff has faded, but the Cubs situation is different than any other franchise. They don't have a fan-base; they have a cult. In pure numbers, the Sox can compete with that. Secondly, the attendance situation took decades in the making. It would take a long time to reverse the effects. And to actually change things would take long-term planning. I don't think the Sox FO is into that. I doubt the Sox will ever outdraw the Cubs, and in a sense, that is not important. What is important is to build a stronger and wider Sox fan base regardless in comparison to the Cubs. Attendance will always decrease during bad seasons, but if the team had a stronger base, the drop in attendance wouldn't be as bad. I hope attendance will increase to give the franchise a deeper economic base. Brooks Boyer did some great things. Haven't seen much from him lately. But he did give impression that he understood Sox fans. That is a rarity in the Sox organization.

How about not picking up the Kimbrel option (meaning they wouldn’t have to spend the 11.5 on Pollock) not signing Vince Velazquez or Joe Kelly, offering and/or brining back Rodon, and still signing Cueto? Finding a RF that actually knows how to play RF and is somewhat productive? Not giving Leury a 3 year deal when there wasn’t a market for him? Signing FA’s isn’t the only way to acquire talent. The team won 93 games last season. They are on pace for 79 wins this year. Sorry you’re surprised your thread praising Rick for his offseason isn’t being met with bouquets of roses.

“In response to an unkind Yankee fan on r/baseball, I got curious about the ups and downs of Mets and Yankees attendance history. I created this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18p_VY6K3V742F3kVCOLvtGIcs7cHFJhEglD24uB6sx8/edit?usp=sharing ... comparing the two teams' yearly attendance with their winning percentages. Cells are highlighted red when the Mets outdrew the Yankees (21/53 years) and when the Mets' record was better than the Yankees (13/51 years; there were two seasons when the teams had identical records). Some findings: When the Mets had a better record than the Yankees (13 seasons), the Mets sold more tickets than the Yankees 12/13 of those years. When the Yankees had a better record than the Mets (38 seasons), the Mets sold more tickets than the Yankees 9/38 of those years. Both teams' attendance peaked the same year, 2008: Mets 4,042,045, Yankees 4,298,655. Coincidentally, both teams were 89-73 that season. Overall, it looks like when the Mets are good - basically, 1969-1973 and 1984-1990 - attendance reflects it. And even when the Mets weren't good in their early years (1964-1975), they still drew more fans than the Yanks. Since 1992, though, most of the winning and the ticket sales have been in the Yankees' favor.” Attendance Dodgers, 2011: 2.94 million Angels, 2011: 3.17 million Dodgers, five-year average: 3.57 million Angels, five-year average: 3.27 million Edge: Angels. 2011 was the first season the Angels outdrew the Dodgers as there was an obvious protest against owner Frank McCourt that factored in, but maybe it was a turning points in Dodgers-Angels history. After all, the Angels now have Chris Iannetta. P.S: Don't tell Donnie Baseball that during his 13 seasons with the Yankees the Mets outdrew the Yanks eight times. https://imgur.com/a/YjfQk The Giants only really took over as the bay area's more popular baseball team when they got a new stadium in a cool neighborhood. The fact is, when they were in Candlestick, no one wanted to go to Giants games.

UC on game or concert days is a mess to get to by car. There are less transit options as well. West Loop has exploded and seems like a much bigger draw than the South Loop, but Armour Square vs Near West feels about as detached from either respectively. 290 sucks worse anywhere IMO than the Dan Ryan getting to 35th. UC area definitely wouldn’t be an improved location for the Sox. It’s a little too late to build in the South Loop and going suburb kills half of the draw. A new park where old Comiskey was is most feasible to me - if it ever gets to that point.

I grew up in the 50s and 60s and we outdrew the Cubs just about every year until the late 60s, the riots of 1968 really hurt the franchise but we bounced back in the Dick Allen days and until 1984 things were about even, the Sox were the first team to draw 2 million in 1983 but when the Cubs won in 1984 things really turned around. Harry Caray moving to the Cubs along with the Tribune buying them was huge, they marketed Wrigley Field like it was watching a game in heaven. When WGN became a Super Station, people all over the country saw games at Wrigley on TV and put a visit to Chicago and Wrigley Field on their bucket list. Wrigley in the daytime looked so good on TV, almost like the Garden of Eden. The Sox could come close with a new stadium near Downtown or somewhere in the western suburbs in the middle of the metro area, I think just west of Hillside or close to Oak Brook would be ideal, not hard to get to from any of the northern or southern burbs by expressway and an extension of the Eisenhower CTA line would help getting people from the city to the park. It was a huge mistake to build new Comiskey at 35th and Shields but when the Addison deal was voted down the Sox had no choice, there are just too many people in the area that won't take in a game on the Southside of Chicago. It's sort of sad and though we came close in 1991 and again in 2006, the Sox are only 1 of a few teams in MLB that have never drawn 3 million to Sox Park

The key to Hahns success with the cheerleader contingent is to set the bar so low that when the player isn’t an absolute failure it feels like success.

Jon Greenberg wrote an article on this a long time ago…basically arguing that the city split was at roughly 60% Cubs fans, 40% Sox fans, but that the Cubs enjoyed that bounce of an additional 33% of their attendance from tourism/out of towners/big group sales. One of the consequences of having their minor league affiliates so far away has been felt in that regional loss where the Cubs basically own eastern and central Iowa due to the Des Moines AAA team, then they always had Peoria/downstate until it collided with Cardinals fans. Once upon a time, the Sox had South Bend in the Midwest League, but ceded that territory of NW Indiana as well. The Brewers, Twins, Royals/Omaha and Wichita, Cardinals have all done a MUCH better job controlling their territorial regions. How many Sox fans in Indianapolis, for instance? Meanwhile, the Sox are obsessed with saving money by having their four teams in roughly the same geographic vicinity, but the Sox fans in North Carolina pretty much have no choice but to follow the Braves, Nationals or Orioles. Same thing with AZ training facilities. It’s like we don’t even exist compared to the Dodgers, DBacks, Padres, Giants, etc. At least before we had that Sarasota/Florida loyal fanbase. Penny wise, pound foolish. Just look at the radio and t.v. coverage for the White Sox vs. the Cubs, Twins, Brewers, Cardinals and Royals across the Midwest. Sox are getting absolutely trounced there.

Yup. Sox were leading the division at the ASB last in year. Since then they've been a .500 club. They should have been far more competitive in that time, but here we are, basically celebrating the fact that we are at .500 2 games before the break. I don't know about anyone else but that's simply not good enough to me.