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I don’t hope for anything significantly wrong with Tony, but I’m also not going to act like I want to ever see him manage again.

Royals play Detroit next so that's very possible for them.

Split this off from the Fire Tony thread. As infuriating as he is as a manager, I hope he's doing OK. Listening to Fegan talk about Tony after games on the FutureSox podcast really hammered home that these games are just taking a lot out of him. Not saying that as a joke either. These games are stressful to watch. At his age, I can't imagine the strain of these games are taking on his body.

I should preface this by saying that I obviously don't want him to die or anything, but how are we as fans supposed to react to this? I don't feel bad for him, if it's that hard on him, he should resign.

I'll be the cynic and say it - this might be a PR move as much as a health move. Others have mentioned it throughout the season but this may just be laying the groundwork to give Tony an out. Not doubting he may have health issues, just that publicly having him sit out could also be a calculated move to telegraph the off-season separation.

Also shows the humidor narrative is horseshit.

Did you see how quickly it stopped when it hit the bleachers. Something’s up in that direction

This is an important takeaway: it's possible to separate wishing he's no longer with the organization, and also being respectful about the man's health. Genuinely hope he's ok.

IF THEY PUT ROBERT ON THE FUCKING IL TWO WEEKS AGO HE WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE GOOD TO GO BY NOW

They're a good team on paper. That should be their slogan.

Yawn….maybe say these things in May….not with 2 days left in August. We’ve watched all year and it’s been the same crap, so now your “angry”. (Insert Joe Kelly pout face)

Kelly, Diekman and Leury are three guys no one in baseball would bring back for another season. The Sox will be paying them almost 20 million next year.

How can Hahn survive this season? It’s unbelievable how bad of a job he’s done.

It’s amazing how we made the terrible Kimbrel trade even worse.

You can thank the citizens of Chicago for the new Comiskey, not the cheap piece of shit Reinsdorf....

Time to start looking at where we realistically could end up in next year's draft. Keep losing boys.

Definitely want them to lose with Cairo, as I want him nowhere near the manager spot next year.

This may sound cold-hearted, but I really don't care whether he's OK or not. He agreed to take on this job at age 76 after having a second DUI. He clearly wasn't physically cut out to do this for more than a year. He's done this to himself, and made us all miserable in the process.

This team is as dead as their manager….too soon?

Just accept Leury as a sunk cost and DFA him already.

Yeah this tends to happen when your manager is 80

It would be a reasonable out.

Unlike the classless White Sox Twitter cesspool, best wishes on Tony's health.

Jerry Reinsdorf is from New York and grew up a Brooklyn Dodgers fan, which helps explain the Kimbrel for Pollock trade. Jerry planned on moving the team to Tampa, if taxpayers didn’t pay for the garbage stadium he demanded.

Then quit, you crusty old fuck.

I hope Tony will be alright. But it makes you wonder if his age and medical conditions are going to take him out of managing. Maybe this can be an out for him and the Sox so he can step away.

The 2006 team would have won this division by 15 games

Fire everyone.

I love that immediately after we see quotes about how the humidor effected the ball too much at GRate we see the ball flying out everywhere.

Honestly, I’m glad this is all just meaningless now. I don’t have to be stressed out anymore and I can just tune in when I want and root for the players I like. And root against the players I don’t like. Like Joe Kelly. I love to watch Joe Kelly fail.

“No opposite field singles here.” Says Stone. ???

Please stop scoreboard watching, Jason. It just doesn’t matter.

It absolutely cracks me up that Hahn fell as backwards into some catching depth but then he had to immediately trade it for another shitty reliever.

Such a no brainer to move on from Abreu after this season. Blow it up.

Man what's your obsession with the Padres

Power move by Tony. Faking health issues just to get away from having to see another Lucas Batting Practice session.

It's a joke that the Sox subjected him to such a demanding job as well. It's a joke TLR tried to tough it out as well. Lotsa jokes to go around. That said, health is everything and even though he's old I hope he has many good years left for him and his family. Feel better TLR, just don't come back next year.

Yeah I'm not sure I remember press releases for managers missing one game.

Doc must be a Sox fan.

Win one for Tony.

Like I said, I've known him and interviewed him multiple times since the early 80's. This is not the same guy I remember as recently as say five years ago.

I tend to agree with you. Bill couldn't afford to play the money game with the big boys. Veeck made up for his lack of money with tons of wheeler-dealer trades. Trades are a fan favorite and he understood that. The current FO doesn't make anywhere near the number of deals that fans like. We seem conservative and cheap to the average fan. I don't think we are cheap at all but we spend the money poorly.

Thought it was interesting that Vaughn says he doesn’t try to pull the ball in the air. He either needs to change that or find a new team, as his power numbers will be average then with that approach.

That's about as much negative as you're going to get from TV talking heads who work for MLB. They can criticize the group collectively but they won't get into individualizing aspects of the team. Too many people's feelings get hurt, gets too personal, owners get angry , your reporting access gets pulled or you just get fired and replaced by those who will stick to not being overly critical. As fans, we can individualize or put the blame on certain people but that's a big no-no when you're doing TV on the MLB Network because it's too speculative . Plus the elephant in the room is that the MLB Network is run by MLB Advanced Media and it's basically all 30 league owners in charge of it.

How about a 6-0 week? ???

Let's look on the bright side. The Sox are making the national spotlight!!

He's angry? Think of how the fan base feels.

One of the problems with Reinsdorf is he is a long time owner. I'm not sure of any other current hands-on owners have been around for 40 years. In the 80s, major league baseball was still fresh with the memory of an actual franchise bankruptcy in the seattle pilots. League health was a real concern, and even worse in his other franchise the NBA. Your location was everything. Jerry bought into the white sox as a baseball franchise, but was also buying into the MLB. And 40 years later I'm sure a lot of the ridiculous work he did to shore up the MLB leads to today's game. Your location is not near as important as it once was. National revenues, MLBAM at one point, and revenue sharing give every franchise an easy floor. Basic new owners are buying fun toys that may lose them some cash in any given year but have a steady appreciating asset that makes it no high-stakes purchase that will dent their wealth. Look no further than the LA dodgers sale earlier this decade, used and abused by a ridiculous owner in dire financial straights and divorce, forced to sell, somehow breaks all records and sells for 4 billion. Smart new owners are realizing they can use the power of the local popularity of sports teams to add layers of commerce and retail around their stadium like LIberty Media has done. But Jerry's focus has, since the mid-80s, prioritized "league health" (/sarcasm) over his own franchises competitive edge. He'll collude with other owners to keep salaries down. He'll go hard against the union and destroy one of his teams best chance at a world series and cancel a season. He'll refuse to let his org set markets on player contracts. He'll dictate to his org that they must not go over the recommended slot bonuses for the mlb draft. He won't let his team go big on international market until the new system was set, while, for instance, today's Rays were built on an incredible haul in 2014. And an owner whose teeth were cut seeing franchises actually get in trouble by overpaying for unproductive talent knows you don't overpay for 16 year olds. Stay out of that game. Millions for a high schooler? Remember Kris Honel? No, no, the game is won by ignoring the trends and just focusing on getting those tried and true productive players at your price. It's possible the league enters a different place at some point. That sports is no longer the holy grail of live viewing and gets split to death like all other content. And maybe then the current owners will turn to the wisdom of a JR. But instead it's just sox fans paying the price for an extremely outdated owner who is extremely arrogant about how excess can lead to pain for a franchise. Whose pain? Well the owners pain. Not really the fans.