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All I know is, no matter what I'm going to enjoy this season more than 2023. Zero expectations, no chance for dissapointment.

Because it wasn't promised and they could cut him. And they did. And the signed him for less.

Neat. An actual interesting player to watch.

Would translate to a 50-112 season with same .310 winning percentage. And that was with Cease. ☹️

Well he's on the 40 man now buddy! Sorta invalidates all that! It's obvious they made bringing him in a priority. Hey, ZIPS thinks if he plays 100 games he'll give us .5 fWAR! LFG! Pull it down! Getz did that! signed a 35 year old corner OF to a league min deal rather than just see what they have in the guy they traded a young pitching prospect for or Oscar Colas!

A little bummed on this one. Just liked Touki and wanted to give him a chance. But maybe he’ll clear waivers. Sox are eating $1.3M on him too which is surprising but also makes it more likely he’ll clear as not only does the claiming team need to put him in the bigs, theyll absorb the deal. Since Sox avoided arb with him, that is guaranteed.

Fedde's pitch report: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/player-scroll/game?gamePk=747817&player_id=607200 His stuff was up a tick today, while Leasure/Garcia/Brebbia were down a tick. He took a comebacker to the leg, but should still be on track for OD: Korey Lee's 6th inning double would have been a HR at home (and in 18 other parks). Still a chance we see him to start the season, as Stassi is dealing with soreness from readapting to catching after his time away.

Fedde 5 innings , 2 hits, 1 R, 1BB , 4K . 81 pitches

But did they go FASTs

Well done.

Luis Gil has apparently made the Yankees' rotation, which could make for a somewhat relevant comparison for Crochet's workload. Gil pitched ~30 IP total in 2022-23 due to missed time from TJ. He did clear 100 IP in 2021, but missed 2020. Yanks say no innings restriction for him this season.

he had a 71 wRC+ last year. He had a .248 OBP. He'll fit in great here, you're right. Solid vet. Great role player. wut.

MiLB free agents on non guaranteed contracts cost nothing until exercised and occupy no roster spot. A team could make 50 deals like this over the winter and it wouldn't matter to the 40 or the payroll. I know you want to be mad, but at least be accurate.

Christ dude, it was a non guaranteed minor league signing for a guy who was a role player on a good Braves team last season. They cut Pillar yesterday because they didn’t deem him worth the $3M and then resigned 24 hours later for (presumably) the major league minimum. He’s a perfectly fine 4th/5th OF. there is absolutely no logical reason to be upset by any of this.

There are no hard and fast rules that apply to every off season. Part of a GMs job is to read the terrain. Preller correctly read JRs and the Sox terrain. They wouldn't take the risk of Cease getting injured into the season. You watched him pitch well in spring and you make good, not great, offer for him. Sox fans did not read the terrain and expected too much for him forgetting who runs the team and how payroll was being cut. This off season with RSN problems causing havoc with many teams bottom lines meant free agent activity had a good chance of being slower which will always lower prices but moreso on the older less talented players. I'm not arguing the way Getz did things is right or wrong, but the arguments here appear that they are treating every off season the same and that is not the case.

It's terrible process. You wasted the opportunity cost when clearly 29 other teams wanted nothing to do with him at any price, at any roster spot. How can anybody defend this move? Sure, it "cost nothing" only if you ignore the opportunity cost of bringing someone that actually might have value and/or contribute to the next good Sox team. You're telling me you'd rather have this guy clogging up the back of the roster than someone like Canaan Smith-Njigba?

As shitty as we all know this team is probably going to be this year, how can you not be pumped for opening day. I still took Thursday and Friday off work. It's the one day every team starts at the same playing field...0 wins and 0 losses. Obviously over time the talent will show itself, but opening day will probably be the only day we Sox fans have even any false hope to hang on to, and April may be the only stretch of Sox baseball worth watching, until guys like Montgomery start coming up to the bigs. Relish it while you can, boys and girls.

Why in gods name was he ever offered 3 million guaranteed anyways he obviously has no market based on the events of this weekend. just a dumb signing and one they continue on with it seems.

His minors deal guaranteed him $3 million. I’m assuming this big league deal doesn’t

Lambert, Drohan, Martin should all be 60 day IL candidates. Somehow Sammy Peralta is still on the 40 man. I would guess those are the four most likely to be removed from the 40 man for the NRIs that make the club. Assuming Getz isn’t going to DFA players he signed or acquired this offseason, Popeye might be next on the list.

Sox saved at least $2.2M in the process. Smart move tbh as paying Pillar $3M to maybe last a month or two on the roster would be pretty gross.

Would guess this means a trip to Charlotte

Pillar apparently just wanted the weekend off

You have work in the morning or something?

oh right, the incredible bats of Tim Anderson (.582 OPS) and Elvis Andrus (.662 OPS). oh yeah, Elvis is a free agent again by the way, I bet he's so lonesome he could cry (I don't think that was an Elvis song....whoa mama). I'm not exactly optimistic about this team, I just don't see any way it could be worse than it was last year.

Like you?

Don’t worry, the best smash burgers and fries will continue to be available to all fans. Just west of the railroad tracks on 35th. For those who really want to try the Comiskey Park version without club level seats, they likely won’t be checking tickets to get into the 300 level weekday day games and many Monday-Thursday April/May/September night games. I bought club seats via stub hub for a few games last year, and the ushers didn’t check up front at the entrance to this level. Hit or miss whether the ushers would check tickets in the seating area, though some were proactive your first time in the outdoor seating sections.

Well, Grossman does kill lefty pitching. Sheets' platoon splits against RHP don't seem to make him valuable at anything.

Does it really matter ? I mean sure if the general board consensus is that Sheets should be gone at all costs . If the object is to win games with the best, cheapest motley crew they can assemble while still attempting to not rush their motley crew of prospects it doesn't matter what they do. Everyone assumes Vaughn will keep getting chances to show he'll get better I wouldn't be totally surprised if the Sox think Sheets has made some kind of adjustment that may make him a better hitter against RHP than Vaughn. Maybe they send Sheets down and see if he smashes RHP in the minors better than he has in the past. They still need power from the left side.

The White Sox, where old bad players go to play for whatever they are offered.

He took a payout on a nonguarenteed contract.

It's obvious JR wants to spend as little as possible when necessary. Really no reason to pay Pillar or Moustakas more when they could pay less for others players to perform on a level more or less equal to the numbers those guys would put up. Pillar's is back , he just had take a cut in his hoped for salary. We don't know how JR is thinking . He talked about competing as quickly as possible but he's clearly talking out of both sides of his mouth when his actions clearly indicate he's crying poor and making every attempt to avoid losses.

Still had a nice spring, Balta.

I probably would have gone with the extra pen arm to start the season and called up Nastrini when needed, but fine with rewarding him for a nice spring.

Hey. Another interesting player worth watching. Cool.

I'm interested in seeing what happens with the new acquisitions (Brebbia, Fedde, Flexen, Hill, Soroka and Wilson). Also hoping for solid performances from Kopech and Crochet in their new roles, and what Garcia can do this season. Continued Chicago cold could help the staff off to a good start.

Ah Ty. Colson hasn’t been healthy yet either I guess.

That's going to cost about 1/2 what the Rays are willing to devote to their new public stadium...$325 million (out of $650 million), give or take. Which would still be the highest contribution by a major League team in the history of stadium building since the early 90s. If JR won't even commit it to a stadium that will directly benefit him and his heirs, he's certainly not going to commit it to a player who would cost almost 5x the Benintendi payout...one that would eventually be going into his 30s.

Hopefully, we will have a new owner by that time who would be willing to extend him.

I would rather extend Robert Jr.

Thanks! I used to "pre-game" at home then take the 55 bus to the red line; or if I was with a woman, take a cab to the ballpark. And now I live in Arizona and have very little interest in driving an hour to watch the Sox play spring training, though I did watch a NASCAR race nearby Camelback Ranch a couple weeks ago and felt guilty throughout that I wasn't a couple miles north watching the Sox lose. Despite earplugs, the good baseball Lord took away my hearing for several days for this transgression. Irrelevant to baseball, but it's interesting how much the spring training facilities in the Phoenix metro have changed in my relatively short lifetime. My dad used to take us out when we were kids and now 20some years later, the area has completely grown up, it's no longer a little suburb of Phoenix, all of the untouched land has been turned into apartments and now they're converting agricultural land into apartments. One wonders how the metro area can supply water to all these people and the hundreds of thousands more people they're building for but I guess that's for my kids to worry about. On tailgaiting, none of my friends have ever liked baseball, let alone the White Sox, so I've never really thought about tailgaiting at Comiskey; when I attend games it's usually by myself and I'll just chit-chat with surrounding fans. It's sort of amusing how standoffish fans have been lately, I don't know if it's because the Sox suck or if it's because everyone in Chicago is depressed. Even one of the employees yelled at me for no good reason (I opened my beer can myself instead of handing it to him to open and that apparently bothered him). I used to live in a building in Lakeview and our floor would get together every so often for a party. Some of these guys worked for the Cubs and everyone else was a Cubs fan, except for this one woman who was a Sox fan and would always talk in a thick accent about how great the Sox tailgaiting was. I kept quiet because I don't like the idea of acres of parking lots and think the Cubs actually have a better set up in that way, I think I'd rather drink in a bar than a parking lot, though I'd rather be surrounded by like minds and I don't think I could be caught in a Wrigleyville bar ever again in my life.

Consider tailgating with a six pack of one of these local offerings (5-7% ABV): Lager Haymarket Chicago Tavern Beer or Revolution Cold Time IPA Spiteful Brewing IPA or Revolution Anti-Hero We typically go pre/post to Marz or Skylark if staying close to the stadium.

Trying to determine the most recent NBA Championship Team the Iowa Women's BB could beat if the game were held before the start of the NCAA Tournament. Former NBA players would have the opportunity to train as much as possible and all players would try their best over one game played under Women's NCAA Rules. Started with the oldest NBA Champion Team which could field five or more players, the 1965-1966 Boston Celtics. The 1964-1965 Boston Celtics are down to three players (Mel Counts (82); Tom Sanders (85) and Gerry Ward (82)). Very nice to see the longevity of the NBA players over the years. The 1979-1980 Lakers are the first team with every member alive today, but their upper 60s - mid 70s age likely would give them trouble playing full court for 40 minutes. My guess would be the oldest championship team to beat the Iowa team in 2024 would fall between the 1984 Celtics and 1991 Bulls. Players (current age as of today) listed are alive, and team rosters per Basketball Reference, assuming deaths are regularly updated. 1990-91 Chicago Bulls (12 Players) (B. J. Armstrong (56); Bill Cartwright (66); Horace Grant (58); Craig Hodges (63); Dennis Hopson (58); Michael Jordan (61); Stacy King (57); Cliff Levingston (61); John Paxon (63); Will Purdue (58); Scottie Pippen (58); Scott Williams (56)) 1989-90 Detroit Pistons (14 Players) (Mark Aguirre (64); William Bedford (60); Joe Dumars (60); James Edwards (68); Dave Greenwood (66); Scott Hastings (63); Gerald Henderson (68); Vinnie Johnson (67); Stan Kimbrough (57); Bill Laimbeer (66); Ralph Lewis (60); Dennis Rodman (62); John Salley (59); Isiah Thomas (62)) 1988-89 Detroit Pistons (14 Players) (Mark Aguirre (64); Adrian Dantley (69); Fennis Dembo (58); Joe Dumars (60); James Edwards (68); Vinnie Johnson (67); Bill Laimbeer (66); John Long (67); Rick Mahorn (65); Pace Mannion (63); Dennis Rodman (62); John Salley (59); Isiah Thomas (62); Michael Williams (57)) 1987-88 Los Angeles Lakers (15 Players) (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (76); Tony Campbell (61); Michael Cooper (67); A. C. Green (60); Magic Johnson (64); Jeff Lamp (65); Wes Matthews (64); Kurt Rambis (66); Byron Scott (62); Mike Smrek (61); Billy Thompson (60); Mychal Thompson (69); Ray Tolbert (65); Milt Wagner (61); James Worthy (63)) 1986-87 Los Angeles Lakers (13 Players) (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (76); Adrian Branch (60); Frank Brickowski (64); Michael Cooper (67); A. C. Green (60); Magic Johnson (64); Wes Matthews (64); Kurt Rambis (66); Byron Scott (62); Mike Smrek (61); Billy Thompson (60); Mychal Thompson (69); James Worthy (63)) 1985-86 Boston Celtics (12 Players) (Danny Ainge (65); Larry Bird (67); Rick Carlisle (64); Greg Kite (62); Kevin McHale (66); Robert Parish (70); Jerry Sichting (67); David Thirdkill (63); Sam Vincent (60); Bill Walton (71); Scott Wedman (71); Sly Williams (66)) 1984-85 Los Angeles Lakers (14 Players) (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (76); Michael Cooper (67); Magic Johnson (64); Earl Jones (63); Mitch Kupchak (69); Ronnie Lester (65); Bob McAdoo (72); Mike McGee (64); Chuck Nevitt (64); Kurt Rambis (66); Byron Scott (62); Larry Spriggs (64); Jamaal Wilkes (70); James Worthy (63)) 1983-84 Boston Celtics (11 Players) (Danny Ainge (65); Larry Bird (67); Quinn Buckner (69); M. L. Carr (73); Carlos Clark (63); Gerald Henderson (68); Greg Kite (62); Cedric Maxwell (68); Kevin McHale (66); Robert Parish (70); Scott Wedman (71)) 1982-83 Philadelphia 76ers (11 Players) (J. J. Anderson (63); Maurice Cheeks (67); Franklin Edwards (65); Julius Erving (74); Marc Iavaroni (67); Clemon Johnson (67); Reggie Johnson (66); Bobby Jones (72); Clint Richardson (67); Russ Schoene (63); Andrew Toney (66)) 1981-82 Los Angeles Lakers (14 Players) (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (76); Jim Brewer (72); Michael Cooper (67); Clay Johnson (67); Magic Johnson (64); Eddie Jordan (69); Mitch Kupchak (69); Mark Landsberger (68); Bob McAdoo (72); Mike McGee (64); Kevin McKenna (65); Norm Nixon (68); Kurt Rambis (66); Jamaal Wilkes (70)) 1980-81 Boston Celtics (11 Players) (Tiny Archibald (75); Larry Bird (67); M. L. Carr (73); Terry Duerod (64); Eric Fernsten (70); Gerald Henderson (68); Wayne Kreklow (67); Cedric Maxwell (68); Kevin McHale (66); Robert Parish (70); Ricky Robey (68)) 1979-80 Los Angeles Lakers (15 Players) (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (76); Ron Boone (77); Marty Byrnes (67); Kenny Carr (68); Jim Chones (74); Michael Cooper (67); Don Ford (71); Spencer Haywood (74); Brad Holland (67); Magic Johnson (64); Mark Landsberger (68); Butch Lee (67); Ollie Mack (66); Norm Nixon (68); Jamaal Wilkes (70)) 1978-79 Seattle SuperSonics (10 Players) (Dennis Awtrey (76); Fred Brown (75); Lars Hansen (69); Joe Hassett (68); Tom LaGarde (69); Jackie Robinson (68); Jack Sikma (68); Dick Snyder (80); Wally Walker (69); Gus Williams (70)) 1977-78 Washington Bullets (9 Players) (Phil Chenier (73); Bob Dandridge (76); Kevin Grevey (70); Elvin Hayes (78); Tom Henderson (72); Mitch Kupchak (69); Joe Pace (70); Phil Walker (68); Larry Wright (69)) 1976-77 Portland Trail Blazers (10 Players) (Corky Calhoun (73); Johnny Davis (68); Bob Gross (70); Lionel Hollins (70); Clyde Mayes (71); Lloyd Neal (73); Larry Steele (74); Dave Twardzik (73); Wally Walker (69); Bill Walton (71)) 1975-76 Boston Celtics (9 Players) (Jim Ard (75); Tom Boswell (70); Dave Cowens (75); Steve Kuberski (76); Glenn McDonald (72); Don Nelson (83); Charlie Scott (75); Ed Searcy (71); Kevin Stacom (72)) 1974-75 Golden State Warriors (8 Players) (Rick Barry (79); Butch Beard (76); Charles Dudley (74); George Johnson (75); Frank Kendrick (73); Jeff Mullins (82); Clifford Ray (75); Jamaal Wilkes (70)) 1973-74 Boston Celtics (6 Players) (Don Chaney (78); Dave Cowens (75); Steve Downing (73); Hank Finkel (81); Steve Kuberski (76); Don Nelson (83)) 1972-73 New York Knicks (11 Players) (Dick Barnett (87); Henry Bibby (74); Bill Bradley (80); Walt Frazier (78); John Gianelli (73); Phil Jackson (78); Jerry Lucas (83); Dean Meminger (65); Earl Monroe (79); Tom Riker (74); Harthorne Wingo (73)) 1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers (6 Players) (Jim Cleamons (74); Keith Erickson (79); Gail Goodrich (80); Pat Riley (79); John Trapp (78); Jerry West (85)) 1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks (13 players) (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (76); Lucius Allen (76); Bob Boozer (75); Dick Cunningham (77); Bob Dandridge (76); Gary Freeman (75); Bob Greacen (76); Jon McGlocklin (80); Oscar Robertson (85); Greg Smith (77); Jeff Webb (75); Marv Winkler (76); Bill Zopf (75)) 1969-70 New York Knicks (8 Players) (Dick Barnett (87); Bill Bradley (80); Walt Frazier (78); Bill Hosket (77); Don May (78); Mike Riordan (78); Cazzie Russell (79); John Warren (76)) 1968-69 Boston Celtics (6 Players) (Em Bryant (85); Don Chaney (78); Mal Graham (79); Bailey Howell (87); Don Nelson (83); Tom Sanders (85)) 1967-68 Boston Celtics (8 Players) (Wayne Embry (86); Mal Graham (79); Bailey Howell (87); Johnny Jones (81); Don Nelson (83); Tom Sanders (85); Tom Thacker (84); Rick Weitzman (77)) 1966-67 Philadelphia 76ers (7 Players) (Billy Cunningham (80); Dave Gambee (86); Matt Guokas (80); Wali Jones (82); Bill Melchionni (79); Chet Walker (84); Bob Weiss (81) 1965-66 Boston Celtics (5 Players) (Mel Counts (82); K.C. Jones (88); Don Nelson (83); Tom Sanders (85); Ron Watts (79))

And with Ceases health, he is probably looking at a ton of years too.

Dude, I've been discussing the White Sox online for a good 25 years. If a younger Mark Liptak couldn't break my spirit, I doubt a bunch of low-grade whiners could, either.

Or stop going to games. Or stop watching the team. Or stop following the team and spazzing out over every non-move. I gotta say I didn't think that the release of Pillar would hurt feelings outside of the Pillar household, but here we are.

Counting on DeJong to be a part of your success is like signing Dallas Keuchel and expecting him to be successful.