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6. What organizations have bad reputations among players? (Multiple answers allowed)

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The fantasy that he might heal up some day and we would be able to release Moldy.

It's these games that make me miss having cable....I love to stay up until 12:30 watching our bullpen blow a late lead

by fWAR, Sox have 7 connected to the bottom 30 with over 100 plate appearances. Burger Vaughn Grossman Then we get to the absolute bottom of the barrel. 318. Anderson, Tim -1.1 319. Abreu, Jose -1.4 321. Benintendi, Andrew -1.6 322. Maldonado, Martin -1.7 Moving it down to 80 PA, you can even pick up Nick Madrigal at -0.7 fWAR. That's five former first round draft picks represented there.

Max has put up 1.7 more WAR than Moldy, without a single AB or inning caught.

Still more valuable that most the team

This makes sense - I think the Sox have extended durations with both players and so with Robert having missed most of the year and kind of in a down place - unless he just crushes in June / July - you probably don't get the value you could for him if you wait it out and trade him when he is having a great season (we don't know when that will be - but in a 3.5 year span - I suspect he'll have at least one year where he has it all just rolling (if not two) and that is absolutely the time to max out for him. Re: Crochet - I presume the reality is - this offseason will be a better time to deal him or even part way into next year where he is (hopefully) continuing to show his dominance. I think the reality is a team paying what he's worth now is probably discounting the payment given the fact that he'll hit his inning limit and need to get shut down. The balancing act here is Sox NEED to be smart and not get Crochet hurt. This is delicate given his injury history - so if Sox got a good (but not great offer), I see the reason to take the offer and run, because there is definitely a chance he goes down again, misses half or a whole season, and at that point you don't have much upside. With that said - if he has a good year, you shut him down smartly, I could see a club looking for a cost controlled pitcher paying a ton in the off-season, and I could also see the same if he came out next year and had a really strong 1st month or two -> at that point you are going to get a haul. However, Crochet is pitching so well (*knock on wood*) that there is a non-zero chance someone decides they really like him and makes an aggressive enough offer to make it work this year. I think more likely on Crochet than Robert -> but thats mainly because Crochet has the production this year to drive it; If Robert had a month of June where he hit 10+HR's and put up a .950+ OPS while playing really good D, and than carried that into July -> I could see the Robert momentum improve significantly.

The constant negative take on every prospect from the same person/people is getting old AF. plenty of legit reasons to hate this organization, we don’t need to put a negative spin on every. single. prospect.

It's cute that it was only those two guys. Makes me laugh every, single time.

“I’ve never heard a good thing.” Yeah, that’s how I imagine everyone outside of the organization and fanbase sees us. While this is true, nobody has done more damage to this team than JR.

Are you from Naperville?

Robert seems closer to a role-player than a superstar. He enjoys playing and that's about it.

That's like triple Maldonado, pretty good

Jeremy Hahn and Rick Haber took a flame thrower to the entire organization. They burned the whole damn thing to the ground.

I agree. He’s been outstanding this year and being that he’s 24 already I’d like to see him get MLB innings soon. My guess is we’ll see him late next month after the Sox trade Fedde and/or Crochet.

Lou Pinella once said A Manager won't win many games, but he sure can lose a bunch of them.

“He’s not swinging it.” No Pedro, Maldonado has never swung it.

Will be a good day when he’s gone.

hitting homers AND taking walks. 21st century baseball at last.

Correct. Big dick Danny is more effective than Blopech.

I think he was referring to Robert’s low number of RBIs despite his 5 homeruns because no one gets on base in front of him. All the more reason to start Lopez second in the order.

Luis Robert, ladies and gentlemen, the sport's greatest "utility player." .196/755

Robert good.

I think in all of the anti-Getz fervor, people forgot how incompetent the new Astros front office is.

Shocking...who didn't see this coming at his age and with how much downtime he's had in the last few years? Just more money thrown down the drain, unless they had taken out insurance on his deal (roughly 60% payout)...

Lineup looks much better with Robert in it.

Holy crap, someone needs a better password than p@ssword.

If the intention is to trade them, I think the off-season makes more sense for both, for different reasons. You can always get blown away by an offer, of course.

The results on the field wouldn't change, but it's amazing to me the lack of transparency the Sox have decided to show. When Getz did his initial media tour, he used the same line on multiple shows. "We have a responsibility to our fans to earn their trust back." Ok, easy line to say, a lot of FO's say the same thing, but if you really have zero interest in doing that, then don't say it. Getz could have bought himself so much more rope with the fanbase if he just would have come out and been somewhat transparent with what he is "trying" to accomplish. "From a foundation standpoint, this organization was not left in a great spot. You had a baseball operations department that was here for a very long time and you started to see a deterioration in the quality of the overall organizational talent over the last few years. So as I sit here today, we're doing so many things behind the scenes to start to build those foundations the right ways, make the right investments, to allow us to have a strong pipeline of talent from the lower levels of the minor leagues all the way to the Major League Level. But that process is going to take time, and it's what I'm focused on from the moment I wake up until the moment I fall asleep. Sox fans deserve it, and that is our only goal right now. I promise Sox fans they'll start seeing it on the field over the next few seasons, but it's going to take some time to start seeing our effort pay off at the Major League level." Fine, you at least told me you had a process, you're gutting the house, taking it down to the studs. Even a quote like that will make me feel 10% better about things, it tells me you want to engage and speak to the fan base and you at least took the time to come up with a quote. But of course, none of that was done. The closest we got was Getz saying "I don't like my team." Super. Once again, the lack of just effort, which of course comes from the top, is always front and center for the White Sox. They just don't care.

The title of the Sox 2024 highlight reel?

It’s more JR than the organization, players know he controls culture! When JR is dirt surfing and get new owner, Sox could have a Blackhawk type resurgence.

I think it’s more “guys coming here and forgetting how to play” than “guys leaving here and becoming better.”

We can't even be the best at being the worst.

Bring up Chuckie!

Tht guy is a fucking b****. For some reason Twitter/X thought I had to see every one of his tweets. It was very very wrong. Life to too short to whine and cry that much. Good lord

Jake Diekman came to mind. Guy put up a 7.04 ERA with the Sox in 30 IP over 2022 and 2023. He went to the Rays, during the 2023 season, and put up a 2.18 ERA in 45 IP. That to me screams "We don't know what to do with this guy, but a team with a better organizational structure will"

Bunch of nerds that never stepped foot on a field etc etc

He built a well-rounded team. We DID want that, right?

Everyone knows that it's great for culture when the GM says "I don't like our team" and then assembles the worst fielding team in the majors, the worst offensive team in the majors, and the 28th worst pitching team. All while on track to be the worst team in history. Edit: And he did all this while s%*# talking the division that proceeds to whoop their ass.

Start Schultz in games, draft Jac Caglianone as a two-way player (most drafts have him going as purely a slugger) and have him piggyback Schultz.

absolutely , add Mason Adams to the call up list. Soroka needs to move on.

I don't miss what I don't care about. You should try it.

Hopefully this is the beginning of a renaissance… the start of a right handed Mark Buehrle career badass motherfucker.

Pedro said he would let Maldonado hit 100% of the time. Forget firing him. Shoot him into space.

He’ll throw like 80 innings doing this and be right on track God I hate this idea. Taking Cags at 5 would tell me that they haven’t learned anything

Be like neither and be healthy!