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I'd support the Saudis buying out your account.

Wouldn't we all...

This is his job offer letter to Getz.

The Sox, as they stand today, are the least talented organization from top to bottom in MLB. Full stop. All of these fantasies of some how accumulating enough talent into the system in the next 2 to 3 years to make Crochet and Robert matter, knowing full well we won't spend in Latin America, the high end free agent market, and the inability to get a top 10 pick next year is just absurd. You have to get talent from somewhere and with all of the doors the Sox artificially close, the trade market is about it. The Sox need to make up 50 games in 2 years, otherwise we lose Crochet for nothing without a playoff chance. That's just insane.

Robert, Crochet, Fedde, & Kopech for the entire Norfolk Tides roster? Who says no?

That sounds about right. I’d love to grab Beavers

Nobody does it like Korey Lee !

Win, lose, who gives a damn. Just boost that ol trade value, Fedde.

I've heard it sucks ass. Phoenix in general this time of year, no thanks. Did it once. That was enough. Anyways, I'm sure this game thread is going to have like 5 posts total.

It's rage inducing when you open up the lineup, and Maldonado is in it. Seriously. At least Lee is at DH tonight, but Maldonado is the worst player I have ever watched in a Sox uniform. He would have been DFA a month ago in any serious organization.

Is Montgomery a positive though? I haven't been following the organization as closely as I have in the past but from most accounts he's been a problem this year

I think they can get more than Beavers from someone else. Fedde is gonna land a top 100 guy imo.

Oh god you’re right. Bump that surplus value up another $10M then!

An oncoming train has already hit us, and it has flattened us like a pancake. Like a pancake, it has flattened us.

Oh I have owned you for years.

Chugga chugga choo choo!

SOUTHSIIIIDE! STAAANDOOO'H!

Unless the plan is to build towards contention no sooner than 2029 why trade Crochet? or, Fedde? Every contending team is built on a stable of strong starting pitching. Crochet and Fedde are top of the rotation pitchers. Add Thorpe and Cannon and another arm to the mix and the Sox can be contenders. As to the remainder of the roster, cut Benintendi now and primarily use Fulks, Roberts, and Phamm in the outfield with Sheets, Colas, and Fletcher as depth. Stay with DeJong and Lopez up the middle, the former for both his bat and glove and the latter for his defense. Vaughn remains at first base alternating on off days with Sheets. Remain with Eloy at DH and pray for an uninterrupted season of play. Same for Moncada at third with help from Mendick and Sosa. DFA Maldonado at once and use Lee daily. Altrenatively, foolishly trade Crochet, Fedde, and Roberts and receive a collection of future stars and prospects few if any of whom will attain their perceived potential. By the way, team control of Crochet remains for two plus years and if Jerry dies before that date new ownership will pay market value for a proven Crochet.

Say what you want about Hahn, that Eaton deal is the deal that keeps on giving. He turned Santiago into several positive season of Eaton (plus one epic fight). Then he turned Eaton into several good years of Giolito, some good times with ReyLo, half a season of Dunning, then Dunning into Lance Lynn then when it's all going down he turns the refuse into Quero, Bush, and at least partial credit for Leasure and Nastrini. Even if all three pitchers end up in the 'pen, this is a win.

Some people, a lot of people on here were criticizing the team for not resigning him. They dodged a bullet.

The problem is that it's very, very easy to see a light at the end of this tunnel: They have an ace (Crochet), mega-tool star CF (Robert), starting catcher (Lee) and their top prospect is a power-hitting lefty shortstop (Montgomery). That's basically the four hardest spots to fill. Honorable mention: Vaughn may be coming alive? June could also be an aberration, but 1B offense is down this year. Then they have absurd depth building at SP: Thorpe, Schultz, Cannon, Nastrini (yeah, he's having a rough time), Iriarte, Bush, Eder, Adams, Taylor, Pallette, Keener, Gowens, Batista and Carela. That's not even counting Burke or Martin. Bryan Ramos has made his debut. Quero is turning it around. Wolkow is all-tooled up. Baldwin is on fire. Gonzalez has turned it around this year. I'm going to personally throw Colas in there because his approach seems different this year. I also acknowledge that Fletcher could always revert to his prior career numbers. The Sox look like they'll get something nice at #5. So, on paper, that all looks fantastic. Especially that pitching depth. But... They once had an ace on a Hall of Fame track (Sale), a top #2 (Quintana), cornerstone 1B (Abreu), top SS prospect (Anderson) and RF putting up amazing numbers (Eaton). That core failed miserably. Outside of Thorpe, Cannon and Nastrini (all very fresh rookies), all of that depth is in the minors. They can still bust. Giolito and Kopech were both #1 SP prospects in baseball (or Kopech was at least #1 RHP). They failed Lopez as a starter. Cease and Rodon were in house. Much like last time, the relief depth isn't inspiring. Hahn spent that wad of cash after acquiring or drafting so many young relief prospects and they all busted. I assume some of the starters would be converted or traded off. They had a position core oozing talent after the last sell-off — so why would a new one, developed by the same guy as last time — turn out any differently? Burke looked good last year and is cratering. Ellis has reached the majors, but he needs a hit tool to stick. Terrell Tatum is hitting poorly. Zach DeLoach is meh. As we've seen, high draft picks aren't guaranteed. Most importantly: Jerry didn't spend the fucking money on two superstars that were falling into their lap. Getz is gonna convince him otherwise? Last go around I'd have been super optimistic, but this team has beaten the optimism out of me.

Or in two years we are back here without Garrett or the prospects.

No you don't. Build around him even if it's for 2 and a half years. Stop allowing it to be okay for this organization to push perpetual rebuilding. It's not. We'll be right back here in 4 years hoping they trade the prospects they received in 2024 for Garrett Crochet.

The odds of any of these pitchers being as good as crochet is about .01%.

Let's say that the city and state refuse to help fund the new stadium. This seems like right now. Jerry is desperate for somebody else to fund the stadium and will turn to anybody. If the Saudi's pitch in and are the main financing partner, would you still support the team?

Fedde vs. McGough Also on FS1 for those who don't like to Stand Up 9 hole is cut off, cause the graphic designer is terrible like everything else about the organization. It's Mr. Fingers.

Baseball is fun when your team hits 4hrs!!! Way to go Lee!!!

buddy, we can't read your sign. "the bees r chase"? that doesn't make any sense, bee boy

At this game Wow, competent baseball.

Sry wrong vid

He saw fans voting for Maldonado and took it personally.

is there a fucking bumble bee behind home plate?

The Mandarin to English Google translate isn't the best

DE BONG!!!

Yea, i'd take my pitcher out too if he gave up a double to Maldy

Schriffen is like the Anti-Stone. Anytime he says something about a player the opposite happens

+Pham +DeJong

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=145&date=06/15/2024 https://www.milb.com/scores/all/all/whitesox Schultz and Keener starting

No idea what you're talking about ? There's no reason to extend him if they are going trade him. And if you keep him you are going to limit his workload . If just don't know what form that will take. Don't bug his agent about an extension . There's no reason to rush into it. See how healthy he is the rest of the season. You just don't start throwing $70M at a guy who has never pitched like this in his life just because he appears to be a giant unicorn. That's the very definition of buying high. I prefer another team buying high on him.

“Always be selling relievers” was meant for Tanner Banks. Sell high and do so right now!

100% ! Cub fans always want the Sox to trade their best talent and tank. Oh sure, just wallow in perpetual rebuilding mode with a bevy of prospects, most of whom will never pan out. It's such a foolish short-sighted strategy, especially with the change in the Draft protocol. No need to continually kick the can down the road and depress the fan base with promises made that cannot ever be kept. The chance of having numerous prospects from trades blossom in a crescendo that results is a WS championship is a fool's mission. There are 30 teams all trying to get better every year. For the WSox, the focus should be on improving year after year in order to stay competitive. When and if the team becomes good enough to contend for a WS championship, then it's time to salt the roster with a few players to help get there, like the White Sox did in 2005.

The arms they have added through trades, plus a guy like Grant Taylor sure helps.

Well, the silver lining is that this guy is a freezing cold take now

Also this is obviously all Ron's fault because he quit making his annual "Jose Abreu sucks" thread, and he never knew when to start hitting again.

I am sad to see this for Jose, but glad he did get paid. He's just a great dude. I will always be a fan.

Yep, I said as much in another thread, but with a Reinsdorf owned team, you have to deal him for prospects and hope for the boom of a prospect or two, along with the years of control.