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Probably, but CHSN’s obscenely large score overlay will still just block the view of the backdrop. 🤣

I keep seeing you say different variations of this, like you feel like you are better than this site because you refuse to call a bad player a bad player. Very strange

AFL got underway tonight, and Glendale plays their first game tomorrow. Barons' championship squad is well represented. Montgomery and Pallette are looking to carry their momentum from the end of the season into potential roles for next year. Gladney, AHT, Dalquist, and Adler will be trying to make cases for Rule 5 protection. Taylor needs innings, Elko needs to show consistency against higher level pitching, and Turner probably caps out as an org C, but one you trust to work with young pitchers so it doesn't hurt to get him more reps. Elsewhere, a handful of Sox should be getting reps in winter ball as well. Lenyn Sosa is probably the most notable of the bunch after his very strong finish to the season. Anyway, I'm a sicko who already misses Sox baseball for some dumb reason so I'll post highlights and stuff in here.

But seriously, at this point all we have is hope, so I'm gonna go ahead and pull for Getz and Thorpe and Montgomery and Albertus and Bonemer and Taylor, and me Taylor etc. It seems like a better path than circle jerking around shitting on kids just because they play for the Chicago White Sox. Being incessantly pessimistic isn't cool or edgy. This isn't Reddit and we aren't 17.

Just keep saying no to public funding, and they could build a little at a time to try to impress. Say no enough, they finish it off.

looks like most of the skyline would be completely obstructed visually once the stadium is built , just based off that photo (could just be the angle)

In his introductory press conference, Getz spoke about competing in the AL Central. He only talked about rebuilding once the entire league was beating their ass cause he's a wildly incompetent GM.

If that's what he really though then Getz and JR flat out lied to everyone before the season even started because not once did they ever say anything about rebuilding or expecting to be a 110 loss team until the train went off the rails. So its hard for me to cut him any breaks when it was all improving the defense so pitchers wanna play here and competing in the central blah blah talk they spewed out in the off-season. If in reality, they put together and expected a 110 loss team, then they lied to the fan base for no reason and even on top of that made a bunch of stupid moves that didn't align at all with expecting to lose 110 games.

He said that after they were on pace to do it. The first thing he talked about was the importance of bunting.

Because Getz listened to the assistant hitting coach he fired a week later.

I am sure you would. Maybe you'd learn something.

Rewarded ? Baseball created this mess with less than 2 handfuls of owners willing to bid on the top free agents and creating a system among the owners and players of the ultra rich and where ever everyone else falls after that. The Orioles finally did some good drafting and, development to get to the top but so far they lack a way to finish it off. The Astros decided to spend a bit and not only finished it off but cheated their way to the top and stayed there for quite a while. They weren't punished until after they won a World Series. Tampa Bay despite great effort to work far below the payrolls of just about every team and still succeed cannot reward their fans with a Word Series win so far or keep their good players . While spending great deals of money doesn't guarantee rings on a consistent basis it usually keeps you in the playoffs. All of a sudden after years of the worse teams getting top draft picks now MLB decides they were wrong all along and it was a bad thing for rebuilding teams to win once in a while. It only took a rebuild for the Sox to make the playoffs 2 years in a row for the 1st time in franchise history before they sunk lower than any other non expansion team in baseball history with years of losing ahead and they need the league to spank them as if their own foibles aren't bad enough or picking higher guarantees championships when we know it doesnt. Incompetence and stagnation is it's own punishment.For ove For over 125 years the Sox didn't need MLBs help to continue being losers. But sure pour salt into the gaping wound . Fucking sadists .

Why should anyone but Reinsdorf fund a new stadium, for a team that is an embarrassment to the sport?

I was just sitting around and got pissed off again. Seriously, how in the hell in a sellers market did Getz do a 3 team trade and give away Fedde and Kopech and get back a pile of crap? It must have been my subconscious saying, "bump the thread before it reaches page 2 again"......thank you subconscious.

Well sure, that happens when you take a picture from the perspective of the home plate ump. The view will be different from the seats 100 feet higher...

But didn't he fire 'almost everyone' during and after the 121 losses not before, and didn't he say that a complete rebuild wasn't needed and that they were aiming to compete this season before the season began?

The White Sox were 10-42 Vs. the AL Central this year and put up a whopping .216 / .272 / .608 slash line as a team in those 52 games. Its crazy to think how different the MLB landscape is this season if there wasn't a little league team playing in it.

This too. Either they lied to us in the offseason for our money, or Getz just lied to us during the season. Either way, it doesn't make me excited to give them any of my money.

I believe in some of the Briths soccer leagues they just demote the entire franchise to the minor leagues for being that bad. In general, yes, I think punishment for this level of failure to perform is a good thing for the league. It is a bad thing for the league if teams refuse to spend money and just sit around as parasites, losing 90+ games every season while their owner rakes in money. This doesn't build the league and it doesn't build fanbases. This behavior shouldn't be rewarded.

Highly doubt it. It was a stupid rule to begin with. The highest pick the Sox got during the rebuild was 3rd I think and that was Vaughn.Its not like their draft picks helped them at all like some of the Astros picks did. But the CBA didnt want teams celebrating mediocrity with hoardes of high picks as if picking talent was as easy as the football and basketball drafts. I understand creating more interest with a lottery but bad teams are punished enough with years and years of bad baseball without collectively bargaining in more embarassment. Can you imagine in any other sport where a team as bad as the Sox has a league rule preventing them from having a top 10 pick just because they are so bad multiple years in a row ? It's asinine. Imagine if there was some disaster like a plane crash and a team being punished like that. What's happened to the Sox franchise is kind of like that. It takes a lot of bad luck and bad ownership to trash a franchise so thoroughly after the first rebuild had to deal with multiple years of a worldwide disease and labor strife as if their incompetence needed any help to be worse than it already was.

And with these teams, leave the ????? in the handle. 😂

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-playoffs-2024-padres-show-they-arent-intimidated-by-the-dodgers-or-anyone-else-in-nlds-game-3-victory-063924389.html https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41665721/mlb-playoffs-2024-san-diego-padres-nlds-peter-seidler For his postseason career, Tatis is 17-for-40 (.425) with six homers. The only players with more homers in their first 11 postseason games are Carlos Beltrán with eight while Daniel Murphy, B.J. Upton and Nomar Garciaparra each have seven. Tatis also has five homers lifetime vs. Buehler over the regular season and postseason combined.

So far this postseason, Tatis is 10-for-18 with four home runs, seven RBI and a 2.151 OPS. His career 1.528 OPS in 36 postseason at-bats (including two series in 2020 against St. Louis and LAD) is the second-highest in MLB history, behind only that of former big-league outfielder Colby Rasmus.2 days ago. Tatis Jr.RF 4 1 1 2 0 0 .556 1.969

Even Getz basically said, "man, I thought we'd lose 110, not 121. LOL. We can only get better from here."

They didn't bring in any "type of player." They signed a bunch of has been's that had a reputation for being decent clubhouse guys. "Their type of players" LMFAO

We're starting from below rock bottom, and no GM of any value is walking through that door. You can either accept that this is going to take forever, or cry all day and s%*# on every Sox prospect that comes through the system. I won't be the one talking s%*# about all those players.

I think we got the immediate results of their new system. They tried to bring in their type of players, David Eckstein types, with leadership skills and the super important ability to beat up women without being suspended, and they thought this would fix a lot. All those tell-all articles at the end of the season...the ones that made it clear no one in the organization has a clue what they're doing...they were about this year.

Looks like SD has Cease listed as the G4 starter. Martin Perez would be the other choice...G5 theoretically Darvish on short rest. London Knack countering for LAD, probably...tough spot for a rookie starter with the weight of the world on his shoulders. No idea who for G5, maybe Yamamoto but he just gave up 5 runs in his first playoff start.

We all knew it was a complete teardown. What results? We're historically bad and he fired the majority of the organization. Did you expect immediate results? Did you actually think we'd be improved? We actively traded everyone with value and signed a bunch of has been's and never were's hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. I would agree that Getz was a bad hire, but using his first year, in which he's fired just about everybody, doesnt really prove anything. Of course we sucked, we were supposed to suck.

Mind-blowing.

I absolutely hate that Samsung and other TV companies have started to do that with their remotes. I have a couple Samsung TVs and that has been such an annoyance to me that I buy their universal remote just to get the extra buttons. I just found there is a “Prime Big Deal” to get two of these universal Samsung remotes for $10 bucks. I just placed an order. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B7B6KLH3?psc=1&smid=A3US3KTV1R02M4&ref_=chk_typ_quicklook_titleToDp

Grant Taylor is going to be so good. Doesn't hurt to be spotted a very healthy lead too. Singles for Montgomery and Elko who both came around to score (the Reds bats are nice), and a 106mph 432ft shot for Turner to chase the starter:

3Ks for Grant Taylor in the first. Also very nice attempt for Colson at 3B here:

Taylor gets the start for the opener. Colson at 3B 👀, Turner at C, Elko at 1B. https://www.mlb.com/gameday/javelinas-vs-desert-dogs/2024/10/08/787635/preview Game's at 3:30 and should be streaming here: https://www.mlb.com/video/live-fall-league-pej-gdd-138521

Yes, the increased "regionalization" of the sport, versus back in the 1950's and 60's and even early 70's when radio and network tv broadcasts dominated the airwaves. There's just never going to be a comeback for baseball in the James Earle Jones "Field of Dreams" speech sense where its part of the very fabric of America like the NFL has been for the last thirty years or so.

As always anything is possible but every comment I've seen published from politicians say categorically it's going to be a difficult sell ESPECIALLY if JR refuses to spend any of his own money.

Tons of people here have said it. Don't be gaslighted.

Feel like I've even seen a post or two here say it, but maybe not.

go beyond the insular walls of a message board, and you get a LOT of "just go to nashville already" comments.

I was out in Oakland two weeks ago to catch a Friday night game against Detroit. I walked in expecting the worst stadium experience and to have a laugh, but man - those fans were having a blast. I left thinking about how these fans have nothing left to cheer for or show up for, and they're still out there having an awesome time. They deserved better.

At least Reinsdorf never did anything like threatening to move the team in order to force the state legislature to build him a stadium. He’s a much better human than Fischer.

Wilson Betemit

What Fisher is doing is FAR FAR worse than what Jerry is doing. He is ripping the team away and being an absolute asshole about it.

I liked Chuck a lot but Paul Richards and Marty Marion were better managers. Regarding Ozzie: September 26, 2011 – He was considered the face of the franchise for eight seasons but on this night after a 4-3 win over Toronto, manager Ozzie Guillen announced he was leaving after owner Jerry Reinsdorf agreed to let him out of the final year of his contract. Guillen, who was the 1985 A.L. Rookie of the Year with the White Sox, won the World Series in 2005 and also got the club into the playoffs in 2008. He had five winning seasons in the eight years as manager and was named Manager of the Year for his work in 2005. In that magical season of 2005, “Ozzie Ball” resulted in the Sox getting off to the best start in their history and with a perfect blend of pitching, speed, power and the ability to execute the fundamentals the Sox were in first place from wire to wire. Then they blitzed through the post season putting together an 11-1 record that was the third best post season record in baseball history. Guillen’s passion and enthusiasm for the franchise was unparalleled but at times he was his own worst enemy. Over his final years in Chicago, he became increasingly thin-skinned and defensive when criticism was directed his way and he lashed out at Sox fans on more than one occasion. Among his famous rants against the fans were one where he said that they could ‘‘Turn off their TVs and stop watching the game if they don’t like the [bleep]ing lineup’’ and another in May 2011 where he claimed Sox fans would not remember him, “As soon as you leave the ballpark, they don’t care about you. They don’t. The monuments, the statues…they pee on them when they get drunk.” On the afternoon of the day he left the team Guillen told reporters that he would not want to return to fulfill his 2012 contract unless he got an extension and more money. Ozzie’s relationship with G.M. Kenny Williams also deteriorated over the final few years because the two men appeared to have different viewpoints over how the roster should be constructed and the style to which the Sox should play. The Jim Thome/DH controversy was an example of the different ideas. Guillen’s family didn’t help the situation with social media comments derogatory to Williams. Many felt when Ozzie was hired in November 2003 that he was the right man for the right team at the right time and for a few years he was. Unfortunately, the manager with the longest tenure since Al Lopez let some personal foibles override a good situation and it was best for all that a parting of the ways took place. Greg: Don't forget the Sox actually were still in the race before a crucial series with Detroit when before the game Ozzie met the press and started talking about not wanting to stay unless he got a raise and a contract extension. He doubled down on that the day he was allowed to leave.

Like I said, you have drank the Kool-Aid. Enjoy.

I do love Ozzie that is for sure.

I did. But back then they had reporters not afraid to ruffle feathers and I don't remember anybody suggesting anything but the Sox wanted to get rid of Ozzie. Kenny won the battle between those 2. Seemed cut and dried. Ozzie wanted more $$ and control and they chose KW. ... I will say in speaking against Ozzeroo he certainly had the biggest ego in Sox history (except for maybe George Bell and Albert Belle, mabe Chet Lemon after reading what Lip put on here) and it probably was time for him to move on to another team. Now I wanted him here but Oz's ego was too inflated at the time to probably continue on with the Sox. Finally, though, enuf time has passed, he's been good as an announcer, and it's time he returns. Arguably except for Al Lopez and Chuck Tanner the best manager in Sox history. p.s. What difference would it make if Oz waited a week and a half for the hammer to drop? He just gave the Sox a head start on finding a new skipper. I would think Ozzie is still popular with 'most' Sox fans.