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jesus if you are on a baseball message board enough that first word you'll assume is a typo for padres and then think there is a prospect named Parades (pronounced in a spanish-esque puh-rah-des") that you don't know. Took me a longtime to realize this is the red sox and that is about world series parades

Be careful or you'll summon hi8is

Quality, not quantity. I'd much rather two high quality guys than 4 borderline guys

He gets us

Benintendi’s contract is Soto’s signing bonus lol

The coolest player ever. Everyone else looked like a dork wearing a helmet in the field. He looked cool.

While I wouldn't need guys ready to play on opening day, I also wouldn't love a package of 18 year olds if I could have my choice. It'd be nice to get guys in AA. At least then you can squint and see some type of core forming with two good AA prospects for Crochet, Montgomery, Quero, Schultz, Smith, Ramos... and then guys like Wolkow and Bonemer and others following a year or two later.

No, this shouldn't be the priority in a major deal like this.

The 2023 World Series was the Texas Rangers vs. the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Yankees and Mets top position prospects were just horrendous last year

More likely he isn't getting anything significant and is trying to create the impression of the opposite.

This team will not be entertaining next year. Not trying to be a dick, but I’d recommend finding something else to keep yourself busy if you’re looking for an enjoyable product. Hopefully we won’t be historically bad though.

Making the team watchable should be the least of our concerns when it comes to a Crochet trade. Getting the best, highest ceiling talent should be the main priority, although I would prefer some near-term proximity all else being equal.

Hey @SoCalChiSox…

BA is not that important. For those of us not still stuck in the 50s and for those of us who dont spend most of our days yelling at kids to get off our lawn, OBP and SLG are better correlated with offensive production. And .274 isn't super great anyway, it's like a 55 hitter....far from the Mr. 3000 t-shirts your boy was wearing. Let's have him hit .315 to .320 a few years in a row and then we can talk.

Yet, you're the biggest Nick Madrigal fan on the planet.

I'd rather have Montgomery over Crawford pretty easily. Tired of no-power hitters

Yoelqui Cespedes would like a word

I don't think you can make a deal with the Brewers without Made. Unless you want to double up on catching Queros.

At 21 years old Dick had to play minor league ball in the Jim Crow South during the Civil Rights Movement. Then he was totally mistreated by the press in Philadelphia which led to some of the fans turning on him. I know this is not what you are asking but I wanted to point out the real politics that had the biggest impact on Allen's life. The baseball politics and maneuvering of getting into the HoF is a talking point in itself.

f*** yes.

Ban him.

AC Slater couldn't even save this mess.

You showed him

I pooped a couple times.

Would be nice to see Fried sign somewhere that isn't Boston and Teoscar to sign with Boston ASAP.

Seems unnecessary

Should have happened a long time ago when he was alive. One of the most electric players in sports history. Well deserved. Hope his family enjoys this forever. Anybody who saw Dick Allen play for the Sox realizes he is a Hall of Famer.

I still like the idea of Mayer + Montgomery even if that means nothing else is coming back.

Crawford is a super risky prospect. High swing rate, rarely walks, tons of groundballs, not a slam dunk to stick in center. I would not be happy if he is the main return for Crochet.

Kenny Williams Jr 😂

That would be fine. We know Crawford is coming back. The question is will PHI also part with Miller or is Getz going to be satisfied with Caba as the other piece. If he gets back Miller and Crawford it will be a job well done.

Well, that's where we have to hope and pray that we have hired better scouting and player development than the last group.

Jesus Made was 80 in BA's end of year update, not sure if that was mentioned.

MLB definitely is happy when you get a Yankees Dodgers World Series, no discussion here. The big spending teams have an advantage. The final 4 teams this year were the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets....and the freaking Cleveland Guardians. For teams that are poorly run, baseball runs poorly for them. For teams that are well run, there is a path to get through, or at least there has been for the last few years unless things have completely changed now that spending has resumed. It isn't easy and you may have more hurdles than the Dodgers, but it can certainly be done.

I don't know what Schriffen would do with this info, but I know I'd hate it

Alright, so here are my Crochet trade partner power rankings at the moment: Red Sox - Desperate for impact talent in general, desperate for a TOR starter, and have the positional talent needed to get a deal done Cubs - President of Baseball Ops in last year of contract, in need of impact talent in general, and have the positional prospects to get a deal done Phillies - Aggressive GM willing to make a big trade, likely more focused on difference makers that help in October than complimentary pieces, and have the positional talent to get a deal done Mets - Team appears to be all-in next year with a crazy owner willing to do whatever it takes to win, but lack a true headliner and would have to offer more of a quantity package to get a deal done Orioles - Desperate need for a TOR starter, but have a GM reluctant to trade high-end prospects and may not have the secondary pieces to get a deal done to our likening Reds - Looking for impact talent but lack a strong centerpiece and would have to offer a quantity package that likely could be beat by the teams above if interested

They were. Not sure where they stand with new top 10 rankings though. Jesus Made is the Brewers number one prospect now.

How you draft a "generational" QB, yet leave him with that toilet bowl of an offensive line is almost negligence.

So Soto going to the Mets is good news for the Crochet market. The Yankees will now be desperate to replace Soto’s lost production and will almost certainly get aggressive with Burnes & Fried. I personally think the latter ends up with the Yankees, while the former ends up with the Giants. This would put the Red Sox is a pretty tough spot from both an impact player and SP perspective. Flaherty would be the last potential quality SP available, but even then his track record has been spotty and he’s not a true ace. The Red Sox finished five games out of the wild card last season. While the AL Central should regress some next year, there are other teams who missed out on the post-season who will likely be better as well. I think it’s clear they will need a much bigger SP addition than Flaherty to move the needle enough and Crochet can provide that type of impact. Also, Soto to the Mets puts more pressure on the elite NL teams that aren’t named the Dodgers. The Phillies & Braves now have a rival with an improved chance of winning the division and who will serve as another potential obstacle alongside the Dodgers come October. There is going to be an arms race for impact and Crochet is one of the few aces available. While the Dodgers don’t really match, the Phillies have the pieces to get a deal done if they are motivated enough. Hopefully this Soto news creates that sense of urgency and we can get a couple of desperate teams to bid against each other.

I’m gonna call bullsh*t on this sympathy for the Yankees. In 2004 the Yankees payroll crossed $200 million for the first time, I think with the ARod trade. At the time, their payroll was about 5% of league revenues, estimated about $4.3 billion. MLB revenues should cross $12 billion this year. The $300 million payrolls of the Yankees and Mets will be about 2.5% of that, half the rate of two decades ago. Were the Yankees bankrupt in 2004? If not, this is a massive proportional payroll cut by them. Even if their revenue is growing more slowly than the rest of the league (didn’t YES premier after this?), that’s easily $200 million more their owners are taking home per year. Poor Yankee ownership can’t keep up though.

If they had an intelligent leader who actually cared about the whole union and not just the top 5 guys, this would have already been agreed too. While elite salaries soar, mid-tier pay has gone backwards (comparatively) and veterans are being priced out. Additionally, players are losing revenue share compared to rest of the leagues. A cap fixes and guarantees them a set percentage of revenue.

Trade Robert for Lux and Outman and Crochet for Abreu and Casas. It’s brilliant!

The Sox had a table at the restaurant. It was in back, for the dishwashers when they were on break. Gum is under the table, dirty Carols number is etched in the fake wood pattern. This was the Sox sitting at the table

JR: "$15M AAV for three more years will cripple our franchise long term." Cohen: "$51M AAV for 15 years is what it takes to win."

What cap and will he be smoking a cigarette?

That Harper deal will forever be the steal of the century. And no star better fit a franchise than Harper to the White Sox. Everything would have probably still flamed out because of KW & Hahn, but at least it would have given us one of the most marketable stars in baseball to help convince little kids to become White Sox fans. Now those same kids on the bubble get Miguel Vargas. No wonder my kid wants nothing to do with baseball and only loves the NBA and really just its stars.