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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:50 PM) Like what and where? The dow is up almost the same amount in 18 months, than it was in 8 years total with Obama. Do we think the Dow would be way past 20,000 if Obama were still in office? That's a different conversation I suppose. The same people who told me Trump mocked a reporter also claimed the market would sink. I would be curious to know what news sources y'all would recommend. I really don't have time to keep tabs on Trump every day, but at the same time I want some good non-partisan news.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:48 PM) Only one person showing them self here, and it is not me You can have an opinion without making a claim. That's cool.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:45 PM) Well I would always suggest you do your own research on anyone and not take someone else's word for things. Most of the "bad" (imo) things Trump has done, are right from his twitter, so you cant really blame that on the media or Hollywood, as that is directly from his mouth. He completely undermines separation of powers and he seems to have little or no interest in actually being "President." He doesnt care about conflicts of interest, he doesnt care about anything but himself. He constantly undermines our system of government, when he has little to no understanding how it actually works. You cant blame the media for Trump trying to give his kids/family jobs in the White House that they are not qualified for. These arent really partisan issues. This isnt what the media or Hollywood says, this is the only conclusion you can come to from reading his twitter feed. I have no problem with someone who disagrees on policy. You think immigrants are bad for the US? You think free trade is bad? Whatever, people can disagree. But I dont think you can reasonably look at how Trump acts and conclude that he is doing good for the US. At the end of the day, what bothers me the most is that he constantly degrades America and its citizens. That somehow America isnt great, when that just isnt true. America is great, but could still be better. /shrugs I mean there is negative things on every president, not really a fan of either bush . I think Trump and Obama are/were way better than those two. I don't think Trump degrades America, how is it any different than when Michelle Obama said something along the lines of "This is the first time I was ever proud of my country?" It will probably come down to how you take the message. For someone who was foreclosed, lost their items in a storage locker auction and now works at home depot, "Make America Great Again" comes across the same way when Obama said "Change".

QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:41 PM) So, which screen name were you using when you were banned the first time? I was never banned.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:36 PM) I felt like the mannerisms that he displayed for the reporter were a lot more dramatic than he displayed for cruise and the general he disagreed with. You already showed yourself by not watching the Stossel video in the first place. So OK, I guess?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:30 PM) I would be curious to hear you outline what parts of the economic growth are due to Obama, and which are due to Trump, and why. I think they both get Credit. Obama did inherit a mess , but I think the growth expedited under Trump, but would not have been possible without what Obama fixed. I don't want to feel like appreciating what Obama did well, and what Trump is doing well is mutually exclusive.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:29 PM) Its in the Stossel video as evidence of Trump's mannerisms. I was replying to those who said they never saw Trump mock Cruz. They obviously did not watch the Stossel Video that you watched.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:21 PM) While I think that a lot of your comments here are way off base. The Stossel video does present evidence that Trump uses the same mannerism when he makes fun of anyone. Impossible to tell intent, but objectively speaking it does present evidence that Trump's actions there were not specifically targeting the handicap. Although you could also argue that in all of those videos he is trying to make his opponent seem handicap... The second part of the segment with the Iraq war was pretty bad though. They specifically quote Trump saying "Yeah, I guess so..." Then it moves towards how "gung ho" he was about the invasion and about how Trump flips his position. Im pretty sure any of the evidence in this video could be used to support whatever opinion the viewer wants. And I feel like Ive seen these type of posts before. Well I know you are smart enough to know the rabbit hole digs deeper than that. There are literally too many lies or deceptions on Trump to take anything to serious. Which is dangerous, because if he really is as bad as some of you make him out to be I will never listen to the media. It's kind of like the boy who cried wolf. If there is something wrong with Trump, it wont be the media or hollywood telling me. I know there are some not so great things about Trump, but I had to figure that out myself.

Ok... you all make it hard to leave this place because you can't use a simple search engine to find a video.

Peace Gents. Its been fun. Im out

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 03:08 PM) Your lame videos debunk nothing. link I thought Trump had one of the greatest memories! Of course he forgot the disabled reporter who had interviewed him multiple times. It's also a matter of how the media frames it... "Trump mocks disabled reporter" is factually true. He did (by definition) mock a reporter, who is disabled. Though what the media frames and the public hears is "trump mocked a reporter for his disability" which of course is false. Trump is an equal-opportunity mocker. He doesn't factor in identity politics. Trump did not reference to the reporters name, or his disability. I believe the farthest he went was mentioning who the reporter worked for, but other than that, nothing. Donald was describing (and this is important) how the reporter said one thing 10 years ago, and then is now saying something completely different, aka "Double Talking". Donald made an expression that I'm sure anyone else would of a double talker, flailing his arms around because said person is now acting like he doesn't remember what he said 10 years ago. And ask yourself, would Donald, an advocate for injured veterans openly mock a disabled reporter? No. We all know the medias tactics. They watched the rally, and quickly thought of a way to spin what he did in a negative way. They are good at doing this type of stuff, we see it all the time. In fact, Donald made the exact same expression mocking Ted Cruz, who obviously doesn't have a physical or mental disability. He did it in the same way in which he mocks a person who doesn't have any idea of what they're saying, NOT because of their body. This is ultimately just my opinion, but I do believe based on common sense that he was flailing his arms to represent the reporter's double talking, not his disability.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 02:02 PM) The same right-wing John Stossel from Fox News. I think I'll pass. It's video proof and worth a watch. But go ahead and pass. I should probably just block you because you bring nothing to the discussion but anger and hatred to anyone with a differing opinion from your own.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:57 PM) lmao. This is soooo weak. Leave the Cult of Trump for long enough to admit that something is wrong on your "side". Donald Trump is a con artist. He is the biggest political con artist in US politics since Bill Clinton. You can see the hypocrisy of the left, but you sure can't see the exact same garbage in Trump. Honestly. THANK YOU. your line on Clinton gives you more credibility than 95% here. I will consider your opinion from now on. It is refreshing when we can all meet somewhere in the middle. In my opinion the left has gone too far left for my taste. I don't care much about radicals from either side to be truly honest.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:56 PM) LMAO "Humandrillbit" and its 181 subscribers. Do they send you a tinfoil hat when you subscribe? John Stossel Debunked it too

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:57 PM) lmao. This is soooo weak. Leave the Cult of Trump for long enough to admit that something is wrong on your "side". Donald Trump is a con artist. He is the biggest political con artist in US politics since Bill Clinton. You can see the hypocrisy of the left, but you sure can't see the exact same garbage in Trump. I would be more inclined to see the hypocrisy of Trump if this place was not such an echo chamber. Surely we can talk about a president on what we do like, and don't like. I find it hard to believe that Trump has done nothing right. I mean just meeting with Kim Jung On to prevent nuclear war has to be a start? The stock market did not Tank as predicted under Trump, let me guess, he was riding Obamas Coat Tails. And can any of you seriously defend the TPP? Please enlighten me.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:54 PM) Nah, you added it. Just like you added homophobic and sexist with very little to back it up. Rage on But I’m glad you are talking about Pruitt and Zinke and Trump and Price flying all over on their jets to their not so green mansions while telling us global warming doesn’t exist and destroying regulations meant to stop it.....oh wait Well agree to Disagree. Jimmy Kimmel is a Racist, Homophobe , misogynist and sexist. No Rage here, just Facts.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:44 PM) Funny that a talk show host must meet higher standards for you than the President of the US. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy from all of you. If you condemn leftist hollywood, jimmy kimmel at least 1 time... MAYBE I would take your bashing on Trump a little more seriously. But since The perfect President of all time in 2008 ran, it's been an echo chamber. But of course I am probably a racist for critiquing the past administration.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:44 PM) Oh I get it, Hannitty starts calling him “Harvey Weinstein Jr” while attacking him for skits over 10 years old(and let’s go ahead and forget that Hannitty was in Roy Moore’s corner) and Kimmel responds by saying that Hannitty kisses Trumps ass(in a colorful way) and now you get to call him homophobic, sexist, and possibly/probably a pedophile based on what he said two days ago. MAGA away, dude You forgot Racist

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:40 PM) Then why use him whenever Trump is mentioned? How many pages do we have to go down before any of you condemn Jimmy Kimmel as a racist, sexist, homophobic pig? I get you all hate the leader of the US. Great. This place has turned into a disgusting echo chamber. Anyone with a dissenting opinion is swarmed by vultures with venom and jumped like a 5 on 1 gang fight. Really shameful because this place used to be alright back in the days of Yasny, Steph , Gene Honda etc At least have an open mind that some of us are tired of being lectured politics by High-Horsed-Hollywood-Elitists. Same s*** when half of them lecture on Global Warming and then Get on their Jet to go home to their Not so Green Mansions. Stop falling so far left that you won't admit it when something is wrong on your side.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:28 PM) Jimmy Kimmel did something, so clearly that makes it OK that Donald Trump does. I disagree.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 01:32 PM) I don't care about Jimmy Kimmel. He's not running the country. That's not to say that if he acts inappropriate its ok. I've just never heard of anything he has done that has come any where close to what Trump has done. Which is at the very least sexual assault. Ok run along. I was talking about Kimmel. You chose to reply.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 02:23 PM) Do you mean Donald Trump? Clearly Jimmy Kimmel. Kimmel is Sexist, Homophobic and Racist. All the characteristics many of you accuse Trump of, but yet you defend Jimmy Kimmel.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 02:11 PM) I think pretty much everything you are supposing is a stretch. I have yet to see anything from Kimmel indicating he is a homophobic pig, but I do know that in college Hannitty was pulled from his radio gig because of homophobia “When your clown makeup rubs off on Trump’s ass, does it make his butt look like a Creamsicle,” “Don’t worry – just keep tweeting – you’ll get back on top! (or does Trump prefer you on bottom?) Either way, keep your chin up big fella..XO,” This is not homophobic to you? You can always tell when you're hitting close to home because they break character and just start calling you a f***** instead of their normal smarmy routine. That idiot Kimmel is obsessed with genitalia and sex. I wonder how many women he raped or molested. Someone should look into that. Jimmy Kimmel go away, racist, sexist, anti-gay...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 02:06 PM) So lets hold talk show hosts up to standards we would never hold politicians to, right? Even though the politician in question has sexual harrassment accusations in the teens and the talk show host did a raunchy skit. do you have proof that this girl was a random girl that they paid after the fact? Or are you just putting that in there? Because the man show skits werent man on the street, they were skits that were written up beforehand I don't think anyone knows for sure either way. Considering Kimmel Is a Homophobic Pig in real life it's not a stretch to say he may be a misogynist perverted sexist pig as well.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 02:02 PM) Nothing. The dude is a living saint. Nice avatar Gif. This video will find you well. I know you wont watch it. So I'll just leave that as a gift for neutral lurkers.