wrathofhahn

Just sayin not sure what does to a man shoulder nothing good would be my guess. I know what it felt like assembling a shed last year

He was a carpenter though.

I think we are so far away from this being a concern in fact my top concern is with the age of the guys we are getting back we are going to burn through their service time before we are able to draft enough talent to get to the ML. It probably will not matter much for the majority of these guys' service time if we use them to their full potential, but if I were constructing a roster, the simplest way to generate extra WAR would be to have a full-time, reliable all-around catcher and a catcher with a less reliable defense who can play 1B/DH and 60 odd or so games at catcher. Consider the Blue Jays and the extra production they were able to get from their two catchers. The average backup catcher is a major negative, hitting at a level that is nearly equal to a pitcher.

Yeah the O's keep making smart moves in the offseason signing Oneill and Sanchez.

The top two prospects in the deal are good. The other two aren't interesting to me. We should be targeting younger prospects other than 4A guys. I'd much rather of us gotten a guy like Zanetello and/or Conrad Cason usually it's the bottom half of the trade that ends up saving these deals when one of the top prospects flame out. Instead we got two guys in Chase Meidroth and Wikelman Gonzalez who are almost ready but don't profile to be everyday players. Meidroth has never hit for power at any level. He also according to scouts and doesn't have the arm strength or range to stick as SS.

Crochet is the current Sox that makes the most sense to move now. He has a history of arm issues and had a good year. Makes sense to move him now versus holding onto him and taking a chance he may get another arm injury. I hope we take the best offer.

Andrew Benintendi isn't good but I don't see why we should be looking to move him. He is going to cost assets to move and we aren't going to get anything back. You guys okay giving up a prospect to move him? I am not. We should be looking to take on salary for prospects not shed them for it.

That is the exception not the norm. And no another teams reclamation project is not another soft-tossing veteran. I am talking about going after hard throwing pitchers or failed top prospects who are in need of a change of scenery with a bit of control. We have to AB and IP to give them and showcase now is the time to do it. Not sign a bunch of washed up guys with no FV at all. We will see I guess.

The Sox are hopeless the time to trade him was last offseason when he had his best year. He is going to be worth a fraction of his actual value right now. We did the same thing with Cease traded him the offseason coming off a down year for scraps and watched him almost win a cy young. How about we hold onto Robert until he is playing well then move him. We can ask for top prospects all we want I take no solace in that because our track record is to give into the market after shopping a player and the market for a season Robert is coming off of is going to be nowhere near what it should be. Prove me wrong Getz

He was mediocre in 2023 too where he played 137 games and had an OPS+ of 91 2.1 WAR. They gave him the Eckstein treatment and vastly overpaid because he got hot in the playoffs. Which they can afford to do because they are the dodgers.

I don't expect this team to compete financially with the likes of the dodgers but we can't even get him to spend smartly on scouts, international free agents, and sign reclamation guys. Getz makes trades like we are the dodgers where it doesn't matter how high or low the current value of a player is if we decide to move him he's gone. It's just dumb and sad I have zero hope for this team right now

It's already a bad deal but the dodgers don't care because they print money faster than the feds Baseball wise he was .9 war player last year.

Look at what we got for Cease. Getz will give in and accept the best crappy offer; I am positive of it. That is what he does. To be honest, I do not think this organization will progress with the current approach they are using; they seem determined to make the rebuild as painful and drawn out as possible. If he was smart and the offers are trash make the deal at the deadline that is where you are going to get the best offers anyways not in the off-season because in the off-season fans and GM's all look at their rosters with rose color glasses. He won't. I also don't know why we aren't in on trading for reclimation projects this team is trash and the whole league knows it, so you aren't getting any reputable free agent to sign here without obscenely overpaying them. So why aren't we trading for guys either getting prospects back for teams in need of short-term salary relief or trading for guys who have fallen out of favor? Don't get it it. But it's whatever. The way Getz is running this rebuild it is going to be 5+ years. We aren't getting the kind of franchising altering prospects players in trades and we aren't getting anyone who could generate any surplus value and be valuable in trades. I fully expect him to sign a bunch of soft-tossing veterans for bloated deals and washed-position players who only signed here because they literally had no other option who wouldn't be worth anything, and that will be the big move of the off-season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bNoVrQf_A

It is not good to jerk around free agents. Release him and allow him to get at bats somewhere else if you are not going to play him.