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For both of them? I would need more but yeah one of the things their weak farm does allow though is to maybe get more then you would otherwise because they don't really have the kind of depth to put out an attractive offer with their other prospects then their top guys. While teams like the Yanks who have depth can trade around the periphery of the guys they want to keep. Seems counter-intuitive but it's not.

They could also be scouting Narveaz their catching is atrocious both guys are hitting below the mendoza line.

They can have all three if they want Shields, Soria and Avilian if it nets us a good package. Querecuto and Rodriguez definitely move the needle for me. We could also take a chance on Carlson. Out with TJ but he'd easily be a top 100 guy if healthy.

Maybe. With his serious knee injury which may force him to 1B/DH and lack of production (he's only really ever hit at low A ball) I'm not all that high on him either.

For Shields? We won't get much the fact he's even movable is a miracle in itself.

Dillion Tate is a fringe top 100 guy. This and smart teams that are rebuilding move their top guys before they are in that position because they recognize they'll get a better offer. For example regardless how Machado played they would have gotten more two-three years ago. Same for Britton. Orioles miscalculated their window however. Hard to come back from that

You act like it matters how he was pitching in 2016. He's a rental the Yankees don't have the time to fix him. He's had a mini scoreless streak where he looked better. Last two years his 3.70 FIP, 1.472 WHIP

Soria been much better then Britton. He also has another year of control

Yeah I'm not sure Lewis has that kind of value anymore. Honestly I would have preferred Dillion Tate as a headliner.

That is way less then what Britton went for. Soria isn't really a rental and he's been pitching much better. Plus in this scenario we'd also being giving up Avilian. No thanks if thats all we can get.

It would be Soria and Avilian. Honestly I'm not sold on Lewis at all he's probably barely a top 100 at this point. The two guys I want are Querecuto and Rodriguez.

Pretty bare farm but they do have Julio Rodriguez. Querecuto. Carlson (arm injury). They still have Kyle Lewis but his stock has taken a big hit. If they did a package around Lewis Julio and Querecuto I would accept it.

That's fair but that is more a byproduct of the fact we are rebuilding and our other options being terrible then Yolmer's bat playing well there. His defense is also better at 2B. I mean sure we can play him at 3B but normally you expect more offense from the hot corners. Which is why it makes sense to move him now assuming we get a good offer which is questionable with the market at 2B right now.

Yolmer has much more value to another team playing 2B then he does us playing 3B.

Also Rodon could be a hot commodity. There are teams that desperately need SP in contention right now. Yankees. Cubs. Some small market teams like the Pirates may get involved due to the amount of control.

Teams that would be interested in Whit Merrifield are probably the ones interested in Sanchez. Brewers and Redsox immediately come to mind.

Not really impressed with who the O's have targeted with both trades. Yankees have some interesting young guys like Medina and Garcia. Instead they got older prospects which won't align with their timeline anyways. Dumb

Look at his strikeout numbers as well. Like I said it will be extremely hard for someone with that profile to replicate those numbers for me 12-13 is still optimistic but we'll just have to disagree to disagree at this point. All I would ask is to rack your brain and try to find someone with that profile whose been able to successfully translate that success to MLB over the course of an entire career. I can only think of couple Dunn. Reynolds. Both had much better minor league careers they didn't hit .235 in the minors. Both had much more power to their swing. I thought I was being kind projecting his avg the same. Projecting his slugging to be the same as his minor leagues while still keeping his unsustainable BB% top 30. I think putting him top 10 which is what 15 percent would do will be difficult especially when he doesn't have the power of a Dunn. Reynolds. Judge. Schwarber. Could he do what you are suggesting for a season or two? Sure. Sustain it over the course of his career? I just don't see it. Like I said we'll just have to agree to disagree.

How is it a more realistic projection? Take a look at the numbers of other players around the league. https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2018&month=0&season1=2018&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=9,d .330 is still top 30 and makes him somewhere in the 80th percentile among all qualified players. .350 puts him top five in the major leagues in BB% and you are talking about career numbers not just one good season. It's just not realistic. In order to get that number there it's more then being willing to take balls at the ML he'll have to demonstrate the kind of power that makes pitchers pitch around him. Like Dunn did. I just don't see it right now. Of course that could all change in the future but if anything what we need him to work on is shorting his swing and removing the hitch so he gets his average into a respectable range. If he's batting 265-275 you don't need him to have a bunch of exotic lines inorder for his bat to play well.

Those numbers aren't realistic to me. It will be extremely difficult for him to maintain that kind of slash line at .240 avg. Todd Frazier didn't manage to do it over the course of his career. The only guy I sort of remember doing it consistently is Dunn. I don't think Collins has that type of power either juiced ball or not. If he put up .235/.330/.435 that probably puts him at around 25 HR's.

I'm not going to crunch the numbers but I sort of put him at .330-.340ish OBP just looking at his hitting numbers. Assuming his slugging stays the same you are looking at best probably a mid .700 ish hitter at the ML. That just won't be good enough with his defensive defencies at the position. Sure but remember Famila plays in a extreme pitchers park in the NL. Soria pitches in an extreme hitters park in the AL. I honestly think his ERA would be a run lower if he was pitching for the dodgers.

Soria also has an option now he's sort of reestablished himself as a top closer I could see a team picking up that option. As far as Soria worth goes I'm expecting someone at the bottom of the top 100 or two interesting young guys. Heredia and Uceta from the dodgers would be a great get. Or even someone like Alvarez or Ruiz. I'd also be willing to package him with Avilian to try and get more back teams that need bullpen help need more then one guy.

Is it umpiring that is the problem? In 2017 in 426 PA in A ball he had a 27.7% K rate. All the scouting reports I've read mentioned his long swing and a hitch I really wish fangraphs or really anyone tracked pitchfx data for minor league games. From there it would be more obvious

Mike Trout leads the league in BB% with 19.6%. Like I said Collins BB% is 21.1. You guys are being unreasonable. He can be as patient as he wants if his slugging and avg stays the same .429 (.435 career) and .247 (.236 career) at the MLB level pitchers are going to allow him to put the ball into play. I don't really know what else is there to say.

Of course it will but not at his ML percentages.