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I'm giving away my age here, but that win did really feel 1983-ish. I was a young child for that year. I would to see Winning ugly return!

Eh, neither of them have been lighting the world afire. If they play better, they'll get more playing time. It's all good. Sox win!

What? His bullpen moves all worked out. Not TLR's fault most of the lineup is hitting .200.

IMO it's too early to lock up Vaughn. How about letting him dominate in the minors first? Giolito- yes he needs to be extended.

When was there ever an 180 game season?

BTW that is a very BWC-esque post. You're even using his terminology.

The Sox were tied for 2nd, 1 game out of first. You act like they snuck in while 10 games back.

Yes, 2020 counts

This doesn't feel like good news

To go over Hahn's 8 seasons as GM somewhat briefly. After 4 years, it wasn't working and they started the rebuild. Nobody is saying he did good in those first 4 years. The cherry on top of the first 4 failed years was the Shields trade. But even in those bad first 4 years... 3 very team friendly contract extensions would eventually pave the way for a hopefully successful rebuild. Since then, he has mostly done a great job. They were tanking hard for 3 years. In the case of those 3 rebuild years, the bad record was what they needed to do. To use bad records in tank years against Hahn is not understanding what the rebuild was about? And now Rick Hahn sits here with a loaded young team and he is the reigning Sporting News Executive of the Year

I suspect most team's fans would trade their roster for the White Sox roster. Even with Hahn working around a cheap owner.

That ignores the young loaded team he built up. But I get it, that doesn't fit your narrative.

I suspect Rick Hahn building this loaded young system is probably given more credit around the league than it is by some fans here. I doubt he would have a hard time finding a job in baseball.

If they're on the verge of giving Gio a 9 figure extension, then I would understand the penny pinching. Otherwise, it's disappointing. They had a chance to grab this division by the balls and they passed on that opportunity.

I don't know how to answer this. He's had what, 2 months in the minors, in which he didn't light anything up? Nor should he of... but it feels ridiculous to pencil him in to make a big jump right to being an impact MLB hitter. I would say he probably should stay in the minors for a full season. But that doesn't appear to be in the cards, since the Sox don't appear to want to pay for a DH.

I can't say for sure if the Sox are improved or worse off. Dylan Cease is probably the most important player that the Sox need to come through. Because I suspect Keuchel will not only regress, but probably somewhat significantly. If he does regress and Case doesn't improve off last year, it might be a really long year for the Sox. It's unfortunate the Sox decided to get cheap with that last SP position.

Yeah. The way this team is built now, if they get an injury or two to the starting staff (as should be expected), they probably won't even make the playoffs. And that doesn't get in to expecting Cease to magically find his command under Katz.

Well said. It's almost like he's going out of his way to go for 2nd place instead of winning a World Series.

It's always possible that Cruz wants a crack at a World Series before he hangs them up. Glancing over his career stats, I think his only World Series appearance was a loss in 2010 while with Texas.

Yeah. That's tough and tempting at the same time.

It would sell out our future a bit, but.... the best way to improve now might be to trade Vaughn ++ for Corbin Burnes. You then take the money you save from not spending on that last SP, and use it to sign Nelson Cruz. Then both the lineup and the starting staff are flipping loaded.

I agree with most of this. But Anderson is significantly better than Torres. I would put that one as CWS++

I'm good with Wainwright at this point. He's fine for a #5 and brings good experience.

It would be crazy to not add a solid SP. They've come so far to build a potential championship roster...you can't blow it now by cheaping out on the #4/#5 starter.

For sure. If the Sox can make this happen, while not sacrificing the SP they sign or trade for, then go for it. This is not like Edwin Encarnacion, who was already showing signs of decline before the Sox signed him.