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I agree with this. The virus is breaking out too much in too many states right now. This is a disaster waiting to happen. I think like concerts, we just gotta suck it up and say, cya in 2021.
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He works out great for the star players. What about lesser players? How about Kyle Funkhouser? Boras pushed him to not sign with the Dodgers as a late first rounder. The next year he's a 4th rounder and lost millions, which he will likely never see again. Or should we get in to the Jose Fernandez fiasco?
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Expanded playoffs could win us a World Series. It might be hard to beat out the Twins for the division just yet. But if the Sox can squeak in the playoffs, then guys like Kopech and Cease start to show their potential....ok I'm dreaming now lol.
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Enough of the drama queen act. It's not a con, it's negotiations. In the end, the owners caved. Good for the players since it appears they're giving up little to nothing. Would it of been nice if this was done a month ago? I guess. But remember, no sports have restarted yet. I'm not sure we lost anything. Maybe some sanity was lost for those fans that followed this ordeal tooth and nail, but that's about it. The pandemic wasn't ready for this to be restarted a few weeks ago. Anyway, let's hope they seal the deal and we have our Sox in a month or whatever.
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Great to hear
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I could see a quick little back and forth and maybe it nudges up to 65 games or something. But really - if they're getting full prorated pay while there's no fans in attendance, they should probably take the money and run.
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If the owners are caving - that would make them the ones putting the game ahead of their agenda. The ones we probably could thank when we have baseball back. How you turn that in to a negative is beyond me.
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Who's At Fault For No Agreement On The Start Of The Season?
Sarava replied to Soxsi75's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I don't think the contracts are still guaranteed for the 2020 season after the spring training agreement. If the owners choose to cancel the season, and that would understandable given the pandemic, I don't think players are entitled to another cent. And I thought I heard last night that Dr. Fauchi is recommending baseball end their season in Septmber. They seem more and more confident a second wave will be coming and it will likely be hitting hard in October. -
Who's At Fault For No Agreement On The Start Of The Season?
Sarava replied to Soxsi75's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I haven't seen anything from the players where they are willing to budge even one inch. Out in the real world where people need their paychecks to pay their rent or mortgage, people everywhere are getting laid off, getting furloghed, reduced hours, reduced pay, sometimes both, etc. That said, I also understand the thought process that owners should largely eat this and let their be baseball. We don't know how much this hurts them since they won't open up their books. In an ideal world, they meet in the middle somewhere. Probably with the owners giving up more than the players. But neither side is willing to move. And now with COVID starting to spike in a lot of places. It makes me wonder if just shutting this down and saying let's come back in 2021 isn't the best answer? Uggh. -
Good tactic by the players I think. The owners will look bad if they order a 48 or 50 game schedule. Hopefully they dont do that.
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That's a discussion for when the CBA is up and you are re-negotiating the CBA. But for now, there's nothing to prove. Anyone who understands basic mathematics knows they are taking a massive revenue hit.
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I guess we can agree to disagree. Because to me - the players are expecting full pay despite massive revenue hits. I find it ridiculous for them to even suggest full prorated pay. Whatever...hopefully both sides find common ground before it's too late.
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Oh this reminds me that you have a dislike for business owners. We had a discussion a month or two on HF, right? But to me this is different than the real world. Because just about all of these people are filthy rich 0- both players and owners. the exceptions being the young players that havent been paid yet. I don't see why both sides can't meet in the middle. And for proposals, the owners are offering plans paying out similar dollars, but much different lengths of schedules. If the players are concerned they are risking their health, then one would think they would jump at the lower game total plans, right? Less games is less risk. But they want the opposite. How come? Oh we all know why, don't we?
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FS: White Sox select prep RHP Jared Kelley with 47th pick, signed
Sarava replied to Y2Jimmy0's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Love this pick! -
Have the players made any proposal yet that was at less than full prorated dollars? I see it as the players being greedy here.
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My fandom of the Sox, Hawks and Bears is about equal. I really can't put one over the other. So I'd go with the Bulls. I havent really paid much attention to them since the Jordan era ended.
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Origin story: How Lucas Giolito found the confidence to be himself again
Sarava replied to SoxAce's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Great article. Thanks for posting it -
Pandemic Realignment: Sox in the Cactus League West
Sarava replied to Quin's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I don't see it happening either. Players are not going to leave their families to fend for themselves for months during a pandemic. -
We'll see how they handle it. It seems odd to me that anyone would of paid for the whole season with this pandemic looming since January. In any event - it looks like baseball has every intention of playing some kind of season. Here is an article with quotes from Manfred: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28955618/rob-manfred-says-table-regarding-mlb-return
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Sale brought so many good times to us Sox fans. I wish him the best in his recovery.
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Y2Jimmy > National Reports (Moncada extended 5 years)
Sarava replied to Look at Ray Ray Run's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Sorry if this was posted already. An interesting take from Boston going back to the Sale trade. -
I would keep him. I think they would get garbage back for him. If they keep him, between time off for Grandal, and the possibility of Grandal playing a little 1B here and there - he could easily catch 50-60 games. Plus, if the Sox trade him and Grandal gets hurt, then we're really screwed. There's nothing competent to hold down the fort.
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Y2Jimmy > National Reports (Moncada extended 5 years)
Sarava replied to Look at Ray Ray Run's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'd suspect they will break that streak. But really, to me this is about winning the World Series. I'd rather the Sox be like the Nationals than the Twinkies. -
Y2Jimmy > National Reports (Moncada extended 5 years)
Sarava replied to Look at Ray Ray Run's topic in Pale Hose Talk
This is such a unique approach. They are locking up guys that are mostly unproven, but loaded with talent. It can pay off big, or blow up in their face. I like the chances though!