WestEddy

When your kids start on their homework right when they get home from school, ask you to check it, do you ridicule them for just doing what other kids are doing? That's a silly metaphor. Yes, kids do get extra credit for not doing drugs. It's borderline abusive to mock them for making great choices when some of those choices are hard to stick to. Tell you what, instead of making silly, failed metaphors, why not just talk about the matter at hand? That vision is unique when you convince an owner who has ignored that non-unique vision for close to 50 years. So, yeah, if you come into a company and upgrade it to be competitive with everybody else, using non-unique visions of good customer service, a good value for a low price, or whatever business ideals you want to use, that does get credit. It's silly to want Getz to invent some method of digging up graves and turning the dead into great baseball players, or some other untried process.

Why do you need me to sum this up? Are you disputing that people around the industry have bought into his vision and have come aboard?

Your question was when can we say that this is the team he assembled. I said now. You can say that anytime you want. I said nothing about judgement. Certainly not after 10 games. In a rebuild year. So I'm not sure how I "seem" to be saying he should be judged on it now. Yes, there were moves that didn't work out. Bailey Horn for Matt Thompson was inconsequential. He's had too many moves that don't matter, that will have to start falling as clear wins. It would have been great if Dominic Fletcher even developed as the strong end of a platoon. He didn't. Here, I'll play your game: You seem to be implying that Getz inherited a very strong roster with an unlimited budget, but he made everybody get hurt or play bad. Why are you defending that notion? Reinsdorf spent when the team was close to competing, which they aren't, right now. Are you saying that Reinsdorf forced Hahn to spend all his money on relievers, and to trade 2 future All-Stars for the right to watch Samardzija suck, then walk away in free agency? When do we get to stop hearing about Rick and Kenny? How about when the albatross players they signed or drafted 1-4 aren't corner pieces of the team anymore? Or maybe we don't have to keep bringing up Rick and Kenny when we stop pretending that Chris Getz ran the entire organization when Kenny was the VP, Rick was the GM, and they both famously staged a tug of war over the direction of the org. I'll happily talk about Getz's bad moves. Trading Semien and Chris Bassit for Samardzija wasn't a bad Chris Getz move. Signing Benintendi to a 5 year contract, then making him suck for his first two years wasn't a bad Chris Getz move. Robert, Yoan and Eloy all getting injured 11 days into the 2024 season wasn't a bad Chris Getz move. Leaving a system with no starting pitching so that Getz had to convert Crochet to starter and sign an iffy Erik Fedde, and look around for other cheap starters wasn't a bad Chris Getz move. No, trading for Corey Julks off the waiver wire didn't add ten wins. Boo Chris Getz!! Conversely, a relief pitcher having 2 rough outings out of his first 5 isn't a bad Chris Getz move. Trying to get your $20M CF to produce so you can trade him, and getting yet another sub-.600 OPS performance from him isn't a bad Chris Getz move.

Why not? He seems to be selling a lot of industry people on his vision.

Oh, and he's 1-13 with 4 Ks and an error in LF for the Pirates. Yes, we should have run through walls to acquire him as a centerpiece of the next White Sox dynasty.

Number of HRs Crochet may ever hit with any MLB team: 0 Number of HRs Montgomery/Teel/Meidroth may ever hit with White Sox: I'd say 100-200 Sox win that trade hands down.

He gets years of runway because he's not even 2 years into this rebuild. Teams don't generally win 100 games in their first year of a rebuild. Look it up.

...Because the White Sox and Cubs both have an equal expectation to make a playoff run this year? You don't even try to make sense. No, Jankowski isn't Aaron Judge. He's AAAA depth, a 4th OF on a bad team. Are you somehow mistaking this year's White Sox team as one of the top teams in the game?

I answer this every time it's asked. Now. Everybody seems to forget Getz was left with a horrible roster, and pretty much zero pitching staff. Oh, and his budget was cut to nothing. A bunch of lesser trades of AAA bullpen arms for AAAA bullpen arms didn't work out. And he has to start having those work out. The Cease trade - the mob loves to acknowledge that JR probably forced that trade in ST to not pay Cease, then pretend that Getz forced JR to force him to make that trade. I don't even care about people criticizing moves. Just at least try to make sense.

All teams are "obsessed" with AAA depth.

So wait. Playing 37 games is beneath mention, but subbing in for about 5 games and starting 4 in a platoon is an indictment? LOL. That's ridiculous.

It's a special level of querulousness to look for minor league signings to be bothered about.

Dude, the house burned down. You're screaming because your shoes are getting dirty walking around in the ash. I'm unsure of what blame you want assigned to him. Blame for his budget getting cut? Blame for having zero starting pitchers to build a team with? Blame for inheriting 3 overpaid slugs who would be injured by game 11? Few of his moves worked out for the 2024 season. I acknowledge that every time you start this whole cycle of pretending the previous 20 conversations ever happened.

Nope, I got the point clearly. Getz was left a smoking crater, and had to rebuild from zero with no budget. Hahn was gifted a World Series winner, and couldn't keep the string going. I think KW was a micro-manager who messed up everything Hahn had lofty dreams of. KW traded Burger because he hated Hostetler. That's a crazy level of dysfunction. Getz has had one off-season and one draft, really.

Sure. Jankowski was on the team for 9 games. How much do you think he's set back the organization? Amaya's the best defensive SS in the upper levels. You're not complaining about things that are really a problem.