WestEddy

I'm surprised at the repeated inclusion of Royce Clayton. Maybe just for unrealized dreaming. He moved Ozzie Smith to 2B and was reviled for that, right? In 2001, I was in Minneapolis for work meetings. It was the week of the season that was moved from the 9/11 week to the end of the season. I wound up in the same hotel as the White Sox, so I kept running into them all day. Royce and Maggs were sitting in the bar area. I went up to Magglio Ordoñez, called him Paul Konerko, and said I was his biggest fan. Royce Clayton busted up at that. Every time I'd run into Clayton on the elevator or the lobby, he was always cordial. I was wearing a Sox jacket, so maybe they thought I worked in marketing, or something.

If Santos is injured and needs surgery, I don't think anybody wants to tie up a roster spot with somebody who is essentially useless for a year. I'm going on Liptak's suggesting that forearm strain means TJS.

I think there's a whole genre of White Sox player who got everyone excited, and then for their 2 months, really weren't all that. Cesar Hernandez. Manny Ramirez.

Maybe value in that all human life has value. In baseball terms, though, he was a lotto ticket the White Sox worked with and corrected something to make him effective. If he's getting cut, he's probably back to maybe just above lotto ticket. There are so many other guys who could throw a ball right now that would be a better use of a 40 man spot than Santos.

And those 2 a-holes couldn't even be bothered to publicly talk up the White Sox. Their statements encouraged Machado to pick San Diego. I think we're going to need many more than 10 slots for this exercise. Wil Cordero needs a spot along side Mike Clevenger.

Soroka and Fedde are as bounce-back-y as Severino and Manaea. Probably more intriguing, as Sev & Man have been down for a while. Soroka's coming back from injury and Fedde looks like a different pitcher from what left America.

Tires on eBay, here. I miss the Temu lady in the red pajamas.

I tried to do this organically. Navarro just sucked, replacing Alex Fernandez. Kemp, for being traded for Lemon. Wells and Kruk could have kept their mouths shut, leaving. Viciedo and Avisail for all the unfulfilled prospect. Beckham was just a sad sack. Ritchie fell off a table, and LaRoche could really just suck it. Jaime Navarro Todd Ritchie Steve Kemp David Wells Nick Swisher John Kruk Dayan Viciedo Adam LaRoche Avisail Garcia Gordon Beckham

Rick Hahn would already have Cease and Eloy traded, and he'd be introducing Flaherty, Josh Harrison and Trayce Thompson to the media.

The Sox actually wanted Leyland, either after LaMont or Bevington. Leyland wouldn't take the job because of how LaMont was treated.

Dude at SBNation - Royals' site advances a few trade ideas for the Royals. https://www.royalsreview.com/2023/12/4/23982849/five-royals-trade-ideas-heading-into-the-winter-meetings Salvador Perez, Michael Massey and cash to the White Sox for Michael Kopech, Jonathan Cannon and Luis Rodriguez

Then I have no idea what you think a baseball pitcher should be doing.

Cease's 2021 was also a good. He led the league in K/9. While Dylan Cease may not be one of the top 3-5 pitchers in the game, he is an incredibly valuable pitcher who will give you a floor-to-ceiling 2.5-6 bWAR. The fact that his absolute floor at this phase of his career is better than average, I'm not sure why people are talking about him like he's Dylan Covey, or something. In money paid for his endurance, talent, upside, and lack of drama - for 2 controllable years - he's the best value available in trade or free agency. I'm not sure why that's so hard to grasp.

I'm guessing both sides are launching narratives in all directions, trying to gin up (and down) interest in other teams.

That trade was made in 2014. Chris Getz was hired in 2016.

Don't know this guy. Just jones-ing for names and rumors.

Dude at Fansided offers 3 packages from the Reds for Cease. SS Edwin Arroyo is nowhere to be seen in any of these. https://dawindycity.com/2023/12/04/3-trade-packages-the-cincinnati-reds-can-offer-the-chicago-white-sox-for-dylan-cease/ package 1: 2B JONATHAN INDIA RHP RHETT LOWDER OF RECE HINDS RHP LYON RICHARDSON package 2: SS MATT MCLAIN RHP CONNOR PHILLIPS 2B CARLOS JORGE OF AUSTIN HENDRICK package 3: RHP RHETT LOWDER RHP CHASE PETTY RHP LEVI STOUDT OF ESMITH PINEDA

Yes, on this and a lot of other sites, too. SoxMachine is getting that.

Okay, I'm making up my own rumor. Pirates looking for pitching.

John Cangelosi. 1986. Switch hitter.

And here's one that's a bit more White Sox-centric, again, if anyone's interested. I've added guys who drop Sox rumors, or pretend to be dropping Sox rumors.

Hey, does anybody here have/use Twitter Lists? I made up a list of baseball writers that I reference during the GM meetings and trade deadline. It has 203 writers, national, SBN sites, Athletic writers, etc. I'm not actively pursuing subscribers, but feel free, and please let me know if you feel somebody is missing from the list. Thanks.

Unless the only way AA can justify the overpay Getz wants is to make the White Sox take on some dead money. Grissom, Waldrep, the guy with 2 last names, Gonzo and White for Cease.

Mike Elias, GM of the Orioles has worked in a front office since 2011. Getz has since 2014. I think Getz will be okay.