WestEddy

I liked Moshe Dayan Viciedo

They've been able to take pitchers in rounds 2+ and turn them into major league starters. Once they're able to do that with hitters, they will have a bona fide minor league development system.

This is heartening, but it will be nice if they can get guys like Wolkow, Bonemer, and Saucke hitting like major leaguers.

Old friend alert:

I went to the last Angels' game at Comiskey, this year. The lady in the ticket booth sold us the cheapest tickets in the closed upper deck, and told us to sit where we wanted.

Yes, you can accuse anybody of anything. If you have no connection to the people you're accusing, like what you're alluding to by saying people here abuse their spouses, a police department wouldn't investigate, just based on your word, because you don't have standing, or any evidence that you have credible knowledge of an abusive situation. So, no, you can't just presume that everybody on Earth is guilty of spousal abuse until they prove otherwise. You can hold that nonsensical thought in your head, but nobody would act on or be influenced by it. You're trying to mix a real situation with nonsensical hypotheticals. If Mike Clevenger was so injured by her "false" accusation, that he's losing millions of dollars in earnings, he can certainly take her to court and sue her. Taylor Swift famously counter-sued a DJ claiming he lost his job over her accusation of groping. She counter sued for (and won) one dollar and cleared her own name from being called a liar. Clevenger can easily do that. He chooses not to. Probably because the details of his relationship would then become public, and we would know what MLB knows.

And throw in both Montys, just to get them to take our money.

Apparently, the Sox placed 5 more prospects on ESPN's follow-up, "just missed" list. Anybody pay for the Disney bundle? https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/43599024/top-100-mlb-prospects-2025-kiley-mcdaniel-101-200-rankings-superlatives

I keep reading the title of this thread as the Rays partnering with the Pixies' bassist Kim Deal to boost payroll.

Apparently, the Reds were talking Robert trade up until they signed Hays. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6098787/2025/01/30/reds-white-sox-luis-robert-pujols/?source=user_shared_article

Nobody's asking to trade places. The Sox have developed multiple ace-level pitchers in the recent past. Baltimore can't. They'll be trading places soon enough.

Return was fine. Could have been better.

I'm not sure where you're going with this, and I have a feeling you agree with me on that. Other teams having good farm systems doesn't negate the Sox stepping up and updating their methods. KC and Detroit have sucked for a decade. They better have good farm systems.

Guy barreled in, and basically said that any advancements the Sox are making, everybody's already been doing that. You can't win without good pitching. The Sox have been able to draft and develop good pitching. They've now decided to tighten their focus on developing good pitching. Baltimore hasn't developed an ace-level pitcher this century. As far as their depth chart, it's great to be able to draft top 5 for multiple years in a row. They made it work. After Kjerstad, Mayo and Basallo, they're pretty thin. In the 90's, Cleveland developed and seeded in Sandy Alomar, Jim Thome, Omar Vizquel, Belle, Lofton, Manny. Then, when those guys started leaving, they had Brian Giles and Richie Sexson ready to step up. Then Victor Martinez and Grady Sizemore. Baltimore seems to have one class, then 4th OFs. If you haven't realized it, yet, all baseball players grow old and retire. Some hit their prime and regress. It's not a bad thing to trade or let them walk if you have a steady stream of good pitching prospects. Lucas Giolito hasn't helped anybody make the post-season, post-Sox.

2023 was also kind of about that, too. Somebody here thinks Baltimore, and every other team are running circles around us on all fronts, and Baltimore hasn't even developed an ace level pitcher this century. Buehrle, Sale, Cease, Crochet vs. ...... Kevin Gausman???

Caulfield implied that we will all be waiting around to see if the Padres get a better return for Cease than they gave up. I won't be. Does that shame you, somehow?

Nope. I love following a successful rebuild. See you at the parade.

You and the lump lumps will care. Normal people don't scour the internet looking for something to feel shame over. We got a good, albeit light return for Cease.

Weird how Baltimore "spends on things like this all the time", and they still can't develop an ace pitcher or two. I mean, Mike Mussina was probably the last true "ace" they developed. Maybe the Sox aren't so behind the rest of the league.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/01/matt-seidler-files-response-to-sheel-seidler-lawsuit.html

Considering the reception Reinsdorf got, they probably didn't want projectiles in people's hands.

You have no standing to say a person commits abuse on their partner. Unless you're saying they told you. Then you would have to present any evidence of that. You're pretending Ms. Finestead (and other women Finestead alluded to) made up her story, produced pictures of somebody else's bruises, when she actually submitted all of that under oath during an investigation. If you made that accusation, and couldn't back it up with evidence, you could be found liable for slander. Ms. Finestead made the accusation, then presented evidence under oath. That holds much more weight than the ridiculous claim you're making.

MLB investigated Clevenger, and I believe that Finestead participated in that investigation. There was no court case. A big part of her claim was that she left with their kid, and he won't give her access to retrieve hers and her child's property that is at his house.

You, and a few others refuse to acknowledge that most crimes are not prosecuted or even reported. Not reporting a crime, or law enforcement deciding to not commit resources to pursuing a case they probably won't win in court - does not mean that the crime didn't happen. Yes, anybody can accuse anybody else of anything. In your example, you would then have to present any evidence that whomever you're accusing has abused their spouse. Olivia Finestead has photographs of bruises; she has told a full, detailed story consistently, and under oath to investigators. She told friends at the time, and they corroborated the consistency of her story. So do you have any evidence close to what Ms. Finestead had to prove your ridiculous accusation that somebody here "beats their wife"? If you don't, then most sane people would consider the case closed. Law enforcement wouldn't pursue because you don't have standing to file any charges. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a tenet for our justice system to attain. It does not mean that if you witness somebody committing a crime, you have to pretend they didn't and lie about it until a court finds them guilty. Of course, you will ignore all of this, or descend down an idiot hole, making even more wild examples. Either you're trolling for attention, or you think partner abuse is funny, unserious, or both.

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