WestEddy

I think he was one of the guys the experts were watching, at the time. https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=drohan000sha

Yes. If he were reinjured, and were put on the IL, so that he could not make 90 days on the active 26-man, he would remain on the White Sox and his Rule 5 status would be in effect for the 2025 season.

As per MLB.com: Rule 5 Draft picks are assigned directly to the drafting club's 26-man roster and must be placed on outright waivers in order to be removed from the 26-man roster in the subsequent season. Should the player clear waivers, he must be offered back to his previous team for $50,000 and can be outrighted to the Minors only if his original club does not wish to reacquire him. A Rule 5 Draft pick can be placed on the Major League injured list, but he must be active for a minimum of 90 days to avoid being subject to the aforementioned roster restrictions in the next campaign.

He has to be on the active 26-man roster for "all season". However, due to injuries, if he spends at least 90 days on the active roster, that counts as a season, and he's the unconditional property of the White Sox. The league assumes the Sox don't play IL games, or whatnot.

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He's still on the 60-day IL. Yes, he needs to be on the 26-man for 90 days of the season. He certainly looks like starter material.

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Trade Rumors chat: Ellis 1:52 What kind of return can Erick Fedde net assuming he's still pitching similarly to how he has been to start the year? Steve Adams 1:56 Darragh and I talked about this on a recent episode of the podcast. Some recent examples of trades of starters with 1.5 years left include Jose Berrios, Jose Castillo and Tyler Mahle. All of those guys netted one near-MLB-ready top-100 prospect (Austin Martin, Noelvi Marte, Spencer Steer) and some quality secondary pieces. I don't think Fedde will be quite that much because of the lack of track record, but a muted version of those packages seems reasonable enough. He's one of the more interesting arms out there and I feel like he's already done enough to command one good 50-FV type prospect.

Maybe they're playing Benintendi to prove to JR or even to 10-D that he's untenable in this condition. JR to eat the salary, or 10-D to take a trip to the minors to fix himself.

Kopech's not really a lock down closer, yet. The FutureSox guys were talking about how teams just love guys with "stuff". And even though he still walks a lot of batters, front offices have the ego to believe they could fix a guy throwing 102. But I don't think a contender would want to make him their closer addition at the deadline if he stays like he is now. They'd want some time to "fix" him. I think Fedde only has #3 stuff, tops, and teams might want to wait longer to see if they want to pick up that extra rotation arm. Even though he has good numbers, I think he's a fallback option. And the whole starting pitcher market hasn't even coalesced, yet. All that being said, Kopech goes earlier for teams to work with him. Fedde goes later for teams to make sure he's for real, and he's really only a solid fall-back option, not a new staff ace.

Because there is no stat that measures "panic". I do not accept that roster churn, alone, represents panic. Panic would be trading Noah Schultz and Brooks Baldwin for Frankie Montas to shore up the pitching staff. Cycling Kevin Pillar through, no matter how long he played, is baseball business as usual. Holiday played 10 games. All starts. Ramos played in 10 games, started 9. Sosa played 12, started 9. Sosa has had 240 PAs at the major league level. He was pressing so hard, he was making basic mistakes. He's not a "prospect" anymore, so I see no problem with moving him up and down. His ceiling is a utility infielder, at this point. Fletcher started 18 of the 20 games in which he appeared. He was pressing, couldn't get started, offensively, and was making basic defensive mistakes. They gave him a timeout. None of this is data, or is compared to anything. Fletcher, Lee, Ramos, Shewmake, Colas, Sosa and Julks are what I would consider the "rookies" hitting the roster. Fletcher, Lee, Ramos, Sosa and Shewmake all got long enough looks. Lee and Ramos had success, and their looks continue. Colas is considered to not be ready. Sosa and Shewmake profile as utility infielders. I'm not sure what they're doing with Fletcher, now. I could make something up for you, but I'm not concerned. Shewmake started 21 of the 29 games in which he appeared. Except for Colas, Julks (who looks like he'll get a long look), and Ramos (who was injured), everybody got longer looks than Jackson. So the answer to your implied question is 1. We've blown through one guy with a shorter intentional look than Holliday, and that's Colas. Again, you ignore the issue that the Sox were losing at a pace where every loss was a national news story. I believe that striking out 4 times and logging 2 errors every night on a team that is being covered like the Yankees isn't beneficial, and that had to be fixed. No, win-loss record doesn't matter. Losing at that rate does. Also, Baltimore has been building a team for 7 years. They should have a more stable roster. This is year Zero of the rebuild for the Sox. We should have more flux. The fact that you won't concede any point means we're still playing "you can't convince me". Show me one statistic that is generally agreed to measure "panic". There are none. This entire conversation is subjective on both our parts. You think I haven't proven anything, and I think you haven't proven anything.

Well, thank you for at least acknowledging that example. I would say that the White Sox found themselves in a situation where they really had to stop the bleeding in order for their rookies to play in obscurity. It doesn't help when NBC is breaking into American Ninja Warrior to give an update on Sosa's run-down gaffe. Fletcher got a nice long audition before he was sent down.

Nobody disagrees with you that Grifol is a bibbledy-babbledy idiot. Any team would give a lot of rope to see if there's anything there with a former #4 overall pick. And if Sheets is anything like the flashes he's shown (gap power, lefty bench bat), there's value in that. Daniel Vogelbach exists.

As mealy-mouthed as Grifol is, even about simple things like walking outside and looking at the eclipse, he's been very unambiguous about Ramos getting his playing time back when he returns. Sosa has had 250 PAs in the majors. He's burned through his chances. Fletcher seems to be in the dog house, or they're making a decision on Sheets. They seem to indicate that they don't think Colas is ready. I don't disagree. He's certainly not tearing up the level where he plays in a hitters' paradise. Cannon and Nastrini looked overmatched after their first starts.

I've given you examples of how they're doing just that with Benintendi, Vaughn, Sheets, Eloy, Flexen and even Soroka. Here's the game we're playing. It's "you can't convince me". But the object of the game isn't whether I can put forward a good argument or not, it's whether you say yes or no. And if you just keep saying no, you win. I've given you several arguments you won't acknowledge, like the Orioles jettisoning Jackson Holliday quickly. Teams do that. Bring up a guy, see he's overmatched, drop him back down to work on the holes that major leaguers exposed in his game. There's really no need for him to strike out 4 times a game for 8 weeks to get comfortable. You think Getz is "panicking". I think he's being proactive, churning through lesser roster options to find workable pieces. Nobody thought that Crochet, Fedde, Flexen, and Soroka would each start 33 games. Isn't Memorial Day a general assessment point? That's 7 days away.

It's completely true. Look it up at Fangraphs. Pham is at -0.1, defensively. The other 3 are +1 or higher on their ratings, which is above average.

I'm all about miracles. The Padres have made the most noise in their current "window", and haven't won much of anything. They no longer have the benefit of the doubt with me.

What's best for the franchise, long term, is figuring out the assets they have on the major league team who could either be long term answers, or trade bait. If you know which year the Sox will win their next Championship, please let us know. If you don't, that qualifier is meaningless.

Well, great. Every game they fail is one game closer to the end of their White Sox careers.

There's totally a plan. They don't play b-squad games during the season. There's only so many ABs and innings during the week. The priorities seem to be: 1) figure out the vets on the 26-man. Give them the ABs/innings to make a determination on trade/extend/DFA. 2) if a rookie catches on, give him playing time 3) if a rookie struggles, get them experience at the major or minor leagues, depending on the problem And really. If I had an employee who clutched onto a single axiom, and couldn't adjust to new wrinkles that came along, he'd be out the door pretty quick. Oh, I also liked roster churn when I managed a department. It worked quite well. As is it for Getz, too.

With Mendick, DeJong and Lopez/Remy at 3B/SS/2B, and Pham in CF, half of your team is average or better. Lee is very good, defensively, when he plays half the games. So I guess 9/16 of the starting 8 are average or better, defensively. Since the win-loss doesn't matter, they're using playing time to figure out Sheets and Vaughn, which seems to be what you're calling for. Benintendi - I guess they want to give him time to get out of his fielding and hitting slumps, either to eat his contract and trade him, get some game value from him, or prove to JR he's a bad signing so they can DFA him.

And really, you're using the very thing you say you want as evidence of Getz messing up. Vaughn and Sheets are still youngish. While neither will be playing on the next Championship team (which is a dumb measure, anyway), they're being allowed the opportunity to play through slumps and defensive adversity to give them a chance to get comfortable. I think it's reasonable to give a former 1st and 2nd rounder a little more leeway to find themselves than Lenyn Sosa, who has shown nothing in 250 PAs in the majors.