WestEddy

This notion is growing to "entire teams of ex-White Sox have won multiple pennants since leaving" proportions. Tim Hill is enjoying his dead cat bounce. Surely your not arguing that John Brebbia and Michael Kopech "magically improved" upon leaving. Kopech started listening to his coaches 2 appearances before he was traded. Declan Cronin was basically Justin Anderson with the Marlins.

I don't remember saying any of that, but if you show me the post, I'd be more than happy to explain it. As far as Gonzalez, it's a rumor that was a case where upper management overruled the pros.

They did change the rules, but that doesn't change where the Sox are. Even picking 10th every other year, and not being guaranteed the top draft pick, I have faith in Shirley to do this better than Hostetler did. And if I'm not mistaken, aren't the international spending pools based on overall record, and not lottery pick?

No, I'm quite sentient. It is a rebuild. I'm not defending their spending ways. Yes, Houston did rebuild. Those 100+ loss teams were horrible. They were an actual internet meme. This is a rebuild. I'm sorry you don't agree.

The division seems to be between, "It's a good hire, and I'm happy", and "Maybe it's a good hire, but you shouldn't be happy".

Ho hum. It's a good hire. My expectations aren't lowered. I expect Getz to rebuild the organization and to eventually win. I did kind of dread a Phil Nevin hire, as the screaming would have been.....clownish?

Well, Venable is a legit guy, and probably wouldn't have chosen the Sox over the Marlins without some semblance of a plan to get competitive in the near future.

It's a rebuild, and teams go through multiple seasons of losing 100+ games. Houston, Baltimore and the Cubs are teams that bit the bullet and tanked for multiple seasons to set up their winning windows. Teams like the Padres, and Baltimore (before their main, recent rebuild) languished for years below .500, trying to "win games", but never quite enough to get over .500.

You could do this without regularly chastising me for my writing style, and the name-calling. We're in a rebuild. Houston and Baltimore endured multiple 100-loss seasons before their current competitive windows. A bunch of glum dudes softened up this selection for over a week by labeling everybody as a TLR hire, a JR hire, or God-forbid, somebody who ever wore a Royal uniform. The very people now shaking their heads at the low expectations LOWERED THOSE EXPECTATIONS THEMSELVES!!!

I'm not sure where, but somebody made a point in the last few days that hitting coaches are fungible, and move around regularly. When he was hitting coach in Miami, Tino Martinez physically accosted players on the Marlins who went to Greg Norton instead of Tino, and he actually choked a couple. Tino Martinez will likely never work in professional baseball in a serious role again. If Marcus Thames could fog a mirror, somebody would hire him.

So, we should be expecting a world series champion at the end of 2025, and be enraged when they don't succeed? People are assuring us this team won't compete for the next 5-6 years. Should they be signing guys like Santander to a 10 year contract so they're here when we finally win?

I was fully expecting Sizemore to "check all the boxes", and didn't even really mind. It had occurred to me that Sizemore has never prepared a team for Spring Training. I'm glad they have a guy who at least has been part of the process and has the experience of managing a full club from "pitchers and catchers report" through the playoffs.

I was resigned to being okay with Sizemore. This seems like a positive development.

So....Grady Sizemore is no longer under consideration?

This is sadly pathetic. When I got like this about the bears, I stopped following them.

Maybe it's just a negotiating tactic. "Oh, you want that much? Look!! This exciting, new candidate just became available!!

In case anyone's wondering....

I don't know if it's not being able to be coached, or bad clubhouse/field presence. It's just my opinion that if they have somebody who might top out at a 95 RC+, play him and save the $2.6 million Sheets will probably earn.

One of the admins here has a problem with joking about suicide. You should probably be mindful of that.

Is Colas bad? He seems to have put up numbers over time. Tanked 2024. My first thought was always to just slide Sosa over to 1st if he keeps hitting, but he's the same height as Vaughn. The 2025 1B may not even finish the year with the team. The only 1B I can squint and see in the pipeline is DJ Gladney. Struck out less than 25% of his PAs at AA (SSS, I know).

I think a take on him is that his back wasn't healed until September. He's just played 50% more baseball this season than he's ever played in his life.

If they can't get a league average hitting prospect as a 3rd or 4th piece of a Crochet or Robert trade, just platoon Elko and Sheets. Elko/Colas would probably be better.

From Keith Law's latest: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5852621/2024/10/18/afl-notes-tre-morgan-zyhir-hope-grant-taylor/ Maybe he's just cooked after a full season at AAA, then AFL. The Sox told him he's done for the year, so maybe they like where he's gotten to.

I'm sure every manager still in the running is "a LaRussa guy". Wasn't Manny Machado seen wearing a suit outside Comiskey when we didn't sign him?