WestEddy

I can only imagine the only reason Lee isn't starting a day game after a night game is they want Crochet pitching to Moldonado.

I think a Colas for Fletcher flip, or DeLoach for Fletcher - is one that Getz is just waiting to see if that's one he doesn't have to make. Fletcher was supposed to be the answer, and he's just being exposed. Flexen as an inning muncher works. I know it's KC, but if he can get through 5-6 with 2-3 runs on the board, he's done his job.

It's a fucking baseball team. I already have problems in my life to dwell on and be miserable about if that's the route I want to go. All online Sox commenting areas become negative echo chambers, and everybody just starts spouting the dumbest, wrong s%*#. Continue to do it. I really don't care. I can scroll.

Dude, we scroll past hundreds of negative comments and can just ignore them. It's when one points out a simple fact, and then weather a deluge of people calling us delusional, Jerry's nephew, kiss-ass, lapdog etc. that it becomes a bit excessive. As I've said, it's not just here. Twitter is ridiculous. I get that any Sox convo right now is going to be heavily negative. But it's BS deflection to say that any problem with negative people should be passed onto the White Sox. Seriously, if you're going to do that, don't scold us for pushing back. Go scold Reinsdorf for making me push back against non-factual nonsense.

I have.

All of Sox online chat gets overrun by people who don't want any positive talk about the Sox. Twitter, SoxMachine, here, there's always trolls who have to ask if a comment is a joke, or to just accuse people who aren't even being positive, just acknowledging reality of working for the White Sox. Yes, this team is exhausting right now. There are no good options.

This team is exhausting. I would hope Lee, Sosa, and Fletcher play as much as possible. The pitching still isn't the catastrophe it's been sold as, here. Grifol just sucks as a game manager. They can't score runs. I'd be bunting every single time they got 2 on. The double plays are killing them.

I think I heard on a broadcast that Clevinger would be ready end of month. Touki is the first pitcher to shut down the Norfolk offense. I'd rather he come up than Clevinger, actually.

Sorry that you get clumped in my mind with the actual nay-sayers who are making little sense in their arguments. I think where this team sits today is well beyond even the worst imagined scenarios that were bandied about. 7 games in, everybody but Sheets and Lee are slumping, then Eloy and Robert on the IL. At least Sosa's starting tonight.

They had an open 40-man slot. I didn't see anybody cut their worst 40-man person to take on Popeye.

DeJong's a better defensive shortstop, and Taylor would have had to sign on for a platoon spot in a corner, when he's still a starting centerfielder. I don't think it's a stretch to think he was holding out for a starting CF job.

Trading Mena and Thompson. Well, you are complaining about Popeye every time you reference him. You could be doing all of this over cutting Moustakas if it truly wasn't about Popeye.

So what's your point?

And you can't assume that X amount of money would have made them choose a notorious dysfunction situation over a club that will be in playoff contention. I keep posing the question - what makes you think a player would take slightly more money to lose all year, then get uprooted and not see his family regularly for 3 months when he has an offer for a stable situation sitting on the table? And why do you need the White Sox to overpay for players? Benintendi should have been a 3 year deal. They probably had to offer him 5 to get him to pick Chicago.

And they are prioritizing the long term by removing a non-prospect from their 40-man roster. You keep arguing about situations that have nothing to do with Popeye. None of Pillar, Grossman, DeJong, Lopez, or Sheets are occupying spots a utility infielder at AA (who hasn't even reported, yet) would take. By the time that Rodriguez progressed out of AA then AAA, he'd probably be out of options, and they'd have to roster or cut him, anyway. It's great you can name players you don't like and decide they could be cut instantly. We have plenty of fat, you say, but you cry every time somebody gets cut or traded.

I believe that MLB teams have to roster 13 pitchers and 13 position players. Leone's given up 3 earned runs in 2.1 innings over 4 appearances. He does seem to have a problem with HRs, early on. All 3 earned runs were homers. Popeye has regressed his last 2 seasons at AA. His chase rates have gotten worse. It was he they brought up to pinch run in one game. My believe is that by the time he was major league ready, he'd be out of options, so they would have to roster and keep him in the majors all season, or he's gone, anyway.

Popeye can't pitch.

That is the thing. If Soroka looks solid by the deadline, he's a dude. Brebbia, Knebel, maybe Eloy if he returns and rakes. I don't see a lot that will be dealt. Maybe if DeJong keeps the power going, he's dealt to be somebody's utility guy. Lopez. Clevinger won't be dealt. Flexen may not make it til the deadline. I think they'd hold onto Fedde and Kopech.

Those are cheap salaries. Getz is doing the defense and vet catcher to pump up his pitchers. I also think Maldonado was a character guy that Grifol wanted. Both can be true.

There really isn't "plenty of fat". They're now down to 2 AAA relievers. Shuster could be cut. That's about it. They don't have the time or the room to keep giving a guy who is regressing "one last chance". They really do have a dynamic roster at AA, and Popeye had to s%*# or get off the pot. Right now, they have 4 OF on the 26-man. I don't know what happens when Eloy and Robert come back. And I'm sure DeLoach didn't suddenly become "ready" after 7 AAA games. Seriously, if they cut Bryan Ramos, or Jake Eder, I would wonder WTF was going on. It's a AA utility infielder. Hahn should probably not have rostered him when he did.

There were cheaper catchers available. You don't need to argue with every single sentence.

Popeye didn't show flashes as a major leaguer. They don't need Leone to "win" games this year. They need guys like Leone to get through games with everybody alive. Unless you actually want a 33-130 team that loses every game by double digits.

I'm not making excuses. I believe Maldonado is a sop to Grifol, giving him a "clubhouse leader". Clevinger parties with a Sox owner. He went out and signed Maldonado. But that's how I reason away Maldonado, not that everyone thought he would be an All-Star, but Grifol couldn't be fired, so give him some help guiding the clubhouse.

Grossman can hit it, a bit. I have a strange feeling Maldonado and Clevenger have been foisted on Getz.