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Why do you want Goins ?

This plus it would allow us to shade left and cover Eloy’s lack of range

Anyone be interested in Jackie Bradley Jr if the Red Sox non-tender him ? Really low batting average but gets on base a little and has plus glove. Also left handed bat. 2 War in a down year last year. (Other places have his war as being lower). Not fully on board with this idea myself in spite of being the one suggesting it, but how nice would a defence with both JBJ and Robert. They could shade a little to left and help Eloy out also perhaps.

Loving your work on this.

So having had time to think about it, here is my off-season plan. Each position I want to upgrade will have a plan A and a plan B (RF, SP x2, Catcher/DH and RP). I will also add a few what ifs/ideas, some of which I’ve not yet see anyone consider. Simply if the plan A player doesn’t want to become a Sox or price gets unrealistic we go straight to plan B. The signings should also keep us under a too high wage bill. Plan A. Starting Pitchers STRASBURG- I think he will opt out. His injuries seem to be behind him and because of them he has only pitched 200 more innings life time than COLE. In spite of being older I think his track record and pedigree makes him a player I’d want. Don’t get me wrong I want COLE, but this might be more realistic. KEUCHEL He was my main target last year and the same reasoning applies. He has a different profile (contact/ground-ball and lefty) to our other starters. He also doesn’t rely on a big fastball so shouldn’t fall off a cliff performance wise. Plan B Strasburg’s plan B is Wheeler and Keuchel’s plan B is RYU. I want to win and win big soon. These two have injury risk but if hit give us more than going for another plan B Option. RIGHT FIELD Plan A CALHOUN - we need home runs, we need a left handed bat and we need to upgrade our fielding. Calhoun checks all of these. I know he doesn’t scream of plan A but the long term plan is give him a 1 year deal and next year we go stupidly hard for BETTS or SPRINGER. I know we don’t want stop gaps overall but this one makes so much sense. PLAN B DICKERSON or GARDNER simply anyone who is better than what we had in 2019 and will take a one year deal. CATCHER/DH PLAN A GRANDAL - the reasons have been stated across this board. Hits switch, other than one poor post season is a good catcher and guards against MCCANN regression or COLLINS not making it. PLAN B DONALDSON - I love DONALDSON for us. I know he’s a righty hitter but I still want him. He can take MONCADA off his feat, ABREU off his, can DH. Basically he does what a MARTINEZ does but also has a position. Relief Pitcher (note - I’m not too worried about this as I have faith one of HAMILTON or JOHNSON will step up, I think FULMER or CORDERO could do low leverage and we know we what we have in BUMMER now) PLAN A WILL HARRIS 400 innings nearly of sub 3 era (FIP 3.03) and shouldn’t cost more than we can afford. Plan B Collin MCHUGH - has the benefit of being able to pitch multiple innings Additional thoughts I’ve avoided MARTINEZ and CASTELLANOS for reasons of handedness, fielding and contract length. Simply I’d want to save the money for BETTS/SPRINGER. I know this might make people hate my plan... I’m okay with that Eric THAMES is interesting to me as a left handed bench bat (if he ends up a free agent). 25 home runs and 1.6 WAR in less than 400 at bats AVI GARCIA - I want him back. He solves the right field issue. I just think between our execs not wanting to accept they messed up and his unhappiness at been cut it won’t happen. I also want us to try and sign MONCADA, GIOLITTO, ROBERT and MADRIGAL to extension (priority in that order). Simply I want to extend our contention window. I wouldn’t be too upset if we get a COLE/STRASBURG and then due to finances go for WOOD/NOVA as a second pitcher. I also wouldn’t mind a left handed reliever as I don’t try FRY. I just don’t know which one I’d want. Line up wise I’d want Robert and Moncada one and two in the line up with Madrigal 9 until he learns to hit pitches he can hit with power rather than simply hit, which I think he has in him. Thanks for taking the time to read this if you have. I fully expect and encourage different opinions. p.s wrote this on notes on my phone so might come out weird on here, sorry

He was number one on my offseason plan last year (mostly for beard reasons). i explained that I believe control/finesse guys regress slower. A guy who throws 96 and then goes down to 90 ends up out the league as he doesn’t know how to live at that speed. Keuchel has less to lose and still would get ground outs.

Jack is entitled to his opinion on this.. but by god I wish he kept that opinion to one thread only !

I actually think Fulmer looked good in a relief role.

He’s staying, it’s his dream job.

On a side note, this was my first created topic on this forum. I’m very opinionated as are the rest of the board at times, but I love hearing other opinions as I don’t want to be in an echo chamber. I just want to thank everyone who posted for being open, constructive, explaining their opinions and not resorting to name calling like on some other posts. Thank you.

I’d find a JD signing more exciting. Not anaylised it enough to figure out which line I believe would win more. Grandel defo gives us more depth for if Collins is a bust.

Defo don’t think he’s a regular all-star. lets say you are right about Grandel (I’ve not ever really disagreed) would you rather have Grandel/Collins/McCann catcher and DH combination or spend the money on JD Martinez to DH?

I created the thread to hear opposing views so defo don’t think you are being a dick. i think he’s changed his batting approach significantly enough to say he isn’t the same hitter as the one who took those Detroit at bats. If your expectation is the the goes back to being a .240/300 player I hope you will be wrong. My view is he’s a 260/320 next year, good for a number 8 in the line up and 2 war Catcher.

Same, but I don’t see us getting him. If we don’t what would be your plan B ?

Not saying you are wrong, but what is it that makes you feel this way?

Is the general consensus his at bats at similar to the first half ? I watch a lot of games and think he might be pressing a bit but still has decent at bats.

Compensation only matters if we sign someone worth anything in free agency ?. I love you positivity.

James McCann has a 3.4 WAR this year according to baseball reference, he works hard on game preparation and is loved by the pitching staff according to reports. Can anyone remember the last time we had a catcher with a 2+war not called AJ ? Before I get into why I am creating this thread I want to say one thing. I really like McCann, I don’t know why but I do. From a rebuild perspective he is the one win from our pro scouting so also gives me hope our organisation are not poor talent evaluators. Everything is pro McCann.... except his second half numbers! I’ve posted these stats at the bottom. For those of you who love tradition stats the first numbers are average, OBP and slugging. For those of you who like more advance states he is about 25% below league average at hitting. THe saving grace is a lowish .296 babip (406 was his babip in the first half). This could all simply mean the first half and second half is what he is overall and neither explain fully who he is. A .275 average hitter with some pop and good defence. I’d take that any day of the week. So my questions to you all are. who is the real James McCann the first half, second half(or what I call Detroit McCann) or somewhere between? Is he our catcher of the future? If so would you extend him and for how much ? 222 .275 .403 .679 71 3 4 1 0 0 2 .296 71 75

I genuinely was irrationally furious about Moncada squaring to bunt ! Never been on the Ricky out train fully until now.

Given his length of time injured would have insurance covered some of his contract ?

I don’t think our coaching is good enough for allow for that to happen.

Is Jimmy now part of the White Sox future ? I personally think it is still a little early to say but his fastball and change up both look fantastic. If he can maintain control surely he’s a set up man option going forward. Anyone know how long we can control him for ?

How’s he been doing ?

Good T1. Every pitch was on the edges of the zone.

I’ve enjoyed Stoney engaging with fans more. How is increase fan engagement a bad thing. He’s entitled to his opinion on things, we are all entitled to disagree. people who have done that politely have had some replies, even though he does reply more to points of view he agrees with.... which again he is entitled to do if he wishes.