SoxBlanco

This is basically exactly what I said earlier. Underwhelming return because it feels like a player short, but not nearly the disaster of a trade that most are claiming.

When will Vargas join the team?

I’m surprised the PTBNL is from LAD and not STL.

https://x.com/whitesox/status/1818019048937889815?s=46&t=hCMAMLMYHQoJ8GPQos5khQ

Yeah, I said something similar in my next post after the one you quoted.

Tough to argue with that. But if that’s how we are going to evaluate a trade, then what are we even doing here? Nobody we get in a return will work out.

If I just found out we traded Colas for Vargas, I’d be very happy with that. Even though both have faded, I think Vargas has always been more highly regarded, and he’s having a much better year than Colas in 2024. I understand your point in that prospects can fade, but Vargas can still be a very good player.

Didn’t the Sox get a top 40 prospect, who graduated and isn’t on lists anymore?

Agreed. I’d be pretty happy with that trade. So the disgust with this trade is Fedde for a top 30-40ish prospect from last year. That seems like it’s light a prospect, but when you combine it with the good return for Kopech and Pham, it’s not as crazy as many are saying. I’d say overall, it’s a slightly underwhelming return, but not a disaster. But what I can’t figure out is how the Cards managed to get Fedde and Pham for Edman. That’s the bigger head scratcher, not the return that the Sox got.

Let’s say Fedde and Vargas weren’t in this trade. How would everyone feel about Kopech and Pham for Perez and Albertus?

What if the Dodgers get Edman and give up Alex Freeland? The Cards then get Fedde, while giving up Edman and something else to the Sox. Sox obviously give up Fedde and get back Freeland and whatever else from the Cardinals to make it work. No clue if this makes sense. Just thinking out loud.

If Pedro gets canned, would an interim manager finish out the year? Or would we look to bring in someone new immediately?

I hope this results in no team offering a legitimate trade package over the next year or so, Crochet pitching like the best pitcher in baseball and staying healthy, and JR finally realizing it’s time to offer him an extension this time next year. Yes I know, I can dream.

I highly doubt there has been any offer for Crochet or Robert that has been worth taking.

What if all trade offers are extremely light because nobody wants to take the injury risk? Would you still trade him while you can? I know I sound like a broken record with the questions I’m asking in my last few posts, but I’m genuinely curious what others would do if they were in charge. If you get a good offer, you obviously take it. But let’s assume all offers are way too light. There doesn’t seem to be a good option. Extending him seems to be too risky, and waiting until the offseason might not help because teams could still be nervous about a future injury. I’m guessing at that point, teams would rather wait until the 2025 deadline to see how his arm holds up during the first half of next year.

I’d be curious what @ptatc thinks the chances of a future injury would be if they shut down Crochet for the season after this weekend.

So if you wouldn’t extend him, and you know all other teams know the Sox are pushing him past accepted limits, making all offers too light, then what would you do if you were Getz?

But if you’re worried about him getting injured, then why would you look to extend him?

Let’s assume this is true that everyone knows the Sox are pushing Crochet past accepted limits, and therefore all trade offers are extremely light. I’m curious what everyone here would do if you were Getz? Keep him and try to trade him during the offseason? If that becomes the plan, won’t teams still be nervous about acquiring him because of how much he was pushed this year?

How did Cannon look today? I was only came to watch one inning (B3), and he didn't look sharp (luckily the double play limited the damage). He didn’t seem to have any command in that inning.

I can totally see what you’re saying now that I read it again, but that’s not how I interpreted it when I first read it. I read it as Crochet has a plan to continue pitching as a starter until the end of the season, but that plan would need to extend into October if he’s traded to a playoff team. Not saying I’m correct. That’s just how I first interpreted it.

This sounds like something someone would say about a different organization after leaving the Sox. That’s encouraging.

Saucke should use some of his over-slot money to get hammered tonight. I believe he turned 21 today.

I love a good Pal appearance, especially near the deadline. What’s your prediction on whether we keep or trade Crochet/Robert? Think both are gone this time next week?

It’s hard to argue with this, but then my feelings toward both get in the way. I like Crochet so much more than Robert. If we traded Robert for a “meh” return and extended Crochet, I’d be thrilled. If it was the other way around, I’d be furious. And that’s with me fully understanding that this team needs offense.