Richie

Wow. Off the bat, that looked like a slam for Eloy. Let it travel a HAIR further

What do you mean... "he pitched 5 innings"? That certainly isn't getting the job done. we have an off-day tomorrow That has zero to do with the fact that our bullpen is utterly depleted today. Lots of teams accept the reality that some of their starters won't go particularly deep. Except we didn't have the option to do that. We played two games yesterday and our bullpen had to pitch 11 innings. I love how the armchair Tony La Russa's in here actually believe Ricky is just sitting there watching Lopez struggling like he was and willfully not getting someone up in the bullpen for some reason. This isn't hard, the situation at hand heading into today was obvious. This type of thing happens all across the league... the starter has to go deep and eat innings. When he struggles, he winds up eating a bullet because nothing can be done. Not every unsightly event which happens to the White Sox is some gross miscarriage of managerial responsibilities. Not everything is an outrage.

I mean, it's trying to save the pen. There's a lot to be gained in that. Some days, your pitcher has to suck it up and eat up innings. Lopez new the situation going into the game, I guarantee it.

Yeah, I mean... we all like him. He's just overmatched right now.

Right when we had been talking about Eloy not hitting/homering off of LHP

I don't know what he should see the field as at this point

The issue is that our bullpen is completely worn down following the double header and the 12 inning game which finished it. We had no choice... we needed Lopez to go a bit deep today.

Can't disagree with that

Jesus Palka... Just go be a bartender and play in a 12 inch league or something.

You can only do so much to help a guy who implodes as suddenly/dramatically as he does, as often as he does.

Oh my...

I cannot be the only one who notices that Rey Lopez basically has the exact same outing every time he takes the mound, can I? 3-4 respectable innings before his command just disappears entirely out of the clear blue sky and he becomes a total sh*t show. Winds-up with 5-6 IP 3-5 ER's 3 K's. It feels like that is literally EVERY outing for him.

Yes, he always hits a wall and loses his command entirely. It all happens at once. It's so redundant and old.

There is zero doubt that we all need to move on from the damn Tatis trade. It happened and it's over. It's BEEN over. Would I like to have him? Of course, but we don't. I like where we're at, moving on now... However, just to answer the question of "why?" do we still dwell on it. It's not just that the trade wound up being so disastrously bad. First off, a lot of it is that James Shields performance had been pretty damn discouraging at the time we traded for him. He had been downright mediocre-to-subpar in one of the most pitcher friendly home ball parks in the national league. It's one thing to move a top prospect for a piece that helps you or could help you contend for a world series. It's a whole other thing to move a top prospect (in a year where you've already essentially fallen apart, nonetheless) for a guy that was rather clearly not better than what you had. At the very least, he appeared to only be a slight improvement. We "magically" just expected him to come here, unite with Coop and return to his TB/KC form. It was very confusing and I still don't get it. Again, even if Shields turned out to be steady/reliable as a middle of the rotation guy - our season was still heading into the shitter. That's why the trade still stands out like a sore thumb among others. Even at the time, it was head scratching to most fans. Then, it blew up far worse than we all had even imagined it could. That's the difference to me. Other trades this organization has made, even if you disagree with them - you can at least follow a coherent train of thought with the FO. Even if it's wrong in your mind, there is SOME rationale behind it. There is SOME potential upside. With the Shields trade. My initial reaction was "WTF".... then my reaction after seeing Shields pitch was "What the f***ing f**k?". Then... we had to sit and watch Tatis develop. Hear his ass getting lapped by the usual outlets as a stud prospect. All the while Shields is the American League's punching bag. Then, he reaches the big leagues and he's EVERYTHING that he was hyped up to be and more. It wasn't just one clean head shot. Where you go "okay, we lost that one". We walked into a knife and it was twisted/turned for a few years before it was finally pulled out. With Tatis arriving and Shields having departed, I think we've all reached that acceptance phase. The wound is healing. But man, it DID suck on a different level. There's no reason to dwell on the trade at this point, that IS 100% silly. However, I think it's also pretty silly to try and rationalize it as not being all that bad. It wasn't "just another deal" where you can go "eh... win some, lose some". In order to move on from a tragedy, you have to accept the reality of it. lol Like I said, though. I'm done with it. I'm going to try to make this the last thread that I address it. haha

Dude, it's fun... It's baseball. Try having fun sometime... it's.... fun. "No need for negativity"... Says the dude telling another poster to go get hit by a car and making an issue out of literally nothing. Now, despite knowing the fact of the matter... he still continues to drag this needless interaction on. Get the hell out and enjoy your holiday or something man. Christ alive.

I know, I know... but jeez. I'm catching friendly fire everywhere here and I'm turning out golden results for the ball club! lol

This is just confusing behavior. lol I was vocal about my reverse jinx since freaking Detwiler dude. Good win. Try to relax next time. Have a happy 4th EDIT: Also, nice death wish

Yessssiirrrr Jeez, I hope I'm not on half of the boards ignore list now. I've never gotten so much sh*t for openly trying to help my team ?

Clearly, the group here doesn't catch on very quickly. lol Helluva fun day!

You're welcome. F**kin ass WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Are you serious? Lol. I have been talking about my reverse jinxing all night. Good lord

You must just be getting here... lol

Welp, to the 13th we go.

True be dat

Just utterly TERRIBLE AB's outside of the Moncada HR the last few innings. Truly TERRIBLE