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Come on Philly....Crawford and Rincon.

Get Freeland and Hope from LAD

No. Miller and/or Crawford are the key bats people want from Philly

Kepler is supposed to be their everyday LF, so theoretically they should still be in for Robert. I bet Caba is someone Getz wanted though and they moved him for Luzardo so yeah that could complicate it, but I suspect PHI probably wasn't going to give up both Caba and Crawford for Robert anyway. Crawford plus a lower end prospect still might be a viable deal.

That dude killed us glad he's gone.

Even tho alot of people think Baty will eventually be a pretty good hitter, his profile isn't what Getz wants, for better or for worse. Right now Getz wants up the middle SS and CF types with good gloves and good to decent speed on the basepaths. So I think he is gonna want Williams as the top piece and Acuna as the second. If he has to sell relatively low on Robert, then he's gonna try to get two pieces that NYM will also need to sell low on and hope he's filled two big holes with bounceback seasons from them.

It's interesting that Getz is putting a heavy emphasis on pitching (in terms of asset acquisition and also where they spend their money in terms of infrastructure, i.e. Bannister) even in light of this...

Yeah I expect this as well unless someone is truly desperate (like BOS was).

In a trade with NYM, I bet Getz wants Jett Williams and/or Acuna.

Ugh

Getz already said he isn't going to give him away just because of last year so I doubt he will accept 13m SV for him. He seemed to suggest it was "refreshing" that other GMs seemed to agree that he had more value than just recent results. Interestingly, Arroyo from the Reds and Petty from the Reds both have around 13m SV each, so thats around 26-27 combined, I think most of us would take those two for Robert for sure, especially if our scouts believe Arroyo can not just stick at SS but be above average there.

You get what you pay for.

I highly doubt we can pull both Arroyo and Petty from CIN and I doubt Krall will even give up Arroyo alone.

I would.

On the one hand that's pretty good money for a 1B/DH. On the other hand, in this market, he could probably get more if he has another good season.

Meidroth must be featured prominently.

If Q is coming back does this mean they are pretty much ready to ship Robert or Beni out so as to keep the payroll relatively neutral?

Breslow is trying to please both of his constituencies here. He has to keep FSG, Henry and Kennedy happy with lower payrolls, but he also has to keep the fanbase from rioting by adding multiple quality SPers, so they aren't gonna spend money but they will spend prospects and non-essential roster pieces.

I'd be absolutely floored if they got BOTH Arroyo and Petty for Robert.

Collier has a great bat and id love to have him, but Getz isn't going to want 50 different 3B, imo I believe he is laser focused on SS and CF. Basically I think he is waiting for either CIN to agree to Arroyo or PHI to agree to Crawford, whichever blinks first.

There is if you're trying to give someone reason to absorb some of Beni's salary, unfortunately.

Except Elias is doing it out of ego and belief that he is smarter than everyone else (and he might in fact be smarter than everyone outside of LA and TB) whereas Getz is doing it out of necessity.

I know people don't like BTV but here is their SV estimates for Reds prospects of note (Reds are one of the "free" teams this week on their site)... Arroyo 13.7 Burns 24.7 Collier 12.2 Petty 12 Stafura 8.2 Stewart 8.2 If Getz and staff liked what they saw of Arroyo in the AFL and are convinced hes healthy, if these estimates are even roughly accurate, Arroyo should be gettable for Robert. If it's a salary issue for CIN, if you throw in 2-3m of the 15m maybe that will help too. We're still shedding 85% of Robert's salary and also the option years so JR should still be happy especially if you can get a cost controlled young SS that can stick.

Baseball Trade Values breakdown To BOS: Crochet 53.4 To CWS: Teel 32, Montgomery 15.2, Meidroth 6.6, Gonzalez 2.8 (56.6 total) I think it's a sign that Meidroth is 6.6. Does that mean he will be our organization's equivalent of Mario Lemieux? Perhaps @Chicago White Sox is onto something...

IMO Getz wants Arroyo from CIN. He is hellbent on adding a legit up the middle talent (SS or CF) because C. Montgomery probably won't stick and Robert will need to be replaced.