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The Rays still owe Kiermaier like a minimum of about 35m if you include the buyout for 2023. Didn't he have a bad year? If they are so cost conscious, maybe we could take that contract off their hands in lieu of Vaughn or Madrigal and then supplement it with Bummer, ReyLo and a couple guys in the minors.

Then they won't get anything of true value.....unless it's a package of major leaguers like ReyLo/Bummer/Fry etc.

Why not? They've done that for a whole off-season and a half, already.

Vaughn/Dahlquist/Thompson.......hmm

Not if Vaughn is the main piece of a package for a stud pitcher. Jose would remain at 1B most likely since he hates DHing and they apparently cater to his every whim.

Yes, if it is the Rays, it's more likely to be Vaughn because of that trade. Hahn would also hide behind the fact that Vaughn is at least a year away from MLB and he'd say his adjustment period would be right in the middle of the window and with Jose's extension and lack do desire to play DH (as if that's relevant), there was "no place" for Andrew as a result. It just sucks Wheeler's wife put us in this position of having to cannibalize the key fruits of the rebuild for a pitcher but it is what it is.

There's zero chance of that, although I'd say that comment suggests one of Vaughn or Madrigal could be in a package for a legit stud (Snell?).

The optimist in me also reads him as implying that since money was saved in RF, we can spend on pitching be it FA or absorbing a bad deal in a trade in exchange for a good long term SP at a cost controlled price (Snell?). Ofcourse if it were Snell or something like that, it would probably have to be a three team trade. I'm not sure Tampa has many really bad contracts they want to move.

I'd like to see who the platoon partner is, if it's not Leury. Any cheap RH RFers on the market?

Steamer has Mazara projected for 27 homers (over about 140 games) next year although if he is going to be a platoon option he probably won't be playing 140 games even if healthy.

Joc would have been much better although admittedly I do not know the price the Dodgers wanted.

Heyman said we were clearing money for Rendon with this deal. Lol.

Now that they didn't allocate any real money for RF, can we at least sign Ryu? Even at 4 years, you can get him for like 70m-75m.. 60m/3 years if no one offers a 4th year. There is zero excuse not to land him....that's alot less than Wheeler.

Dumpster diving. So much for Price/Benintendi and officially no Joc. This sucks! Props to Moan4Yoan....he called it. He isn't a pessimist, he's just a realist

Perhaps Hahn's reticence to include Vaughn and Madrigal as someone stated explains why we are forced to try and buy low on someone with upside who can hit righties well but has alot of flaws. If you don't have a lot of quality depth and you won't trade top tier prospects (and he shouldn't do so, I agree) this is all we can do outside of using payroll flexibility to absorb a bad contract as the means of compensation which they seem to be doing in talks with BOS for Benintendi. That's the only two ways to do it if you are in that position. Hopefully we will get something done that's decent.

Benintendi may be a good talent but he hasn't shown power so far and next year hes projected around a 2.5 WAR. The absolutely would have to throw him in or eat half of price's money or maybe throw him in and eat a smaller amount of money.

There's that ok his other comment implying we are trying to address RF and SP in the same trade.

Or hopefully the Dodgers too.

Rabbit seems to be on the price/Benintendi train.

Are Heyman and Merkin wrong too? This is unacceptable. Just get Joc if you want a rental. He is at least a decent defender and has more proven power.

Thats 25m a year...no way. He's 34 and had an injury issue. What's he projected for....2.5 wins. It will decline from there. And Benintendi's salary will keep rising. Thats alot of money we are taking off their plate. I think Beni is perfect for LF but not so much in RF. His arm isn't awesome and I don't see the power yet. Maybe it will come. He's a good player...LHH, good OBP, but I'd like some more power. BOS needs to eat 20m.

BOS still needs to eat some money even if Benintendi is attached.

What would we have to give up for Maeda/Joc? Any thoughts?

So if we sign Ryu for a reasonable three year deal...someone should tweet "You win....perfect!" at Hahn.

Price/Beni plus at least 15m in money back to us, deferred to 21 and 22, however so BOS benefits in the short term and we benefit the next few years when we need the money.