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Jazz is projected for slightly higher WAR than TA and he destroys RHP (wrc+ 158). He's also cost controlled for 4 years. This isn't a teardown. It's addressing multiple major needs at once (long term 2B and extreme savagery vs RHP) and TAs replacement should be ready in 24. It's just a better allocation of resources.

If it's not TA, I would be ok if Vaughn was the main piece of a Jazz deal. I would prefer TA tho because we have Vaughn for 4 years but if push comes to shove and Miami wants Vaughn as the key piece I would do it. After all, LH 2B > RH 1B. We haven't exactly had a problem finding good RH 1B in the last 30+ years and unlike a savage LH 2B, good RH 1B more or less grow on trees.

Point is TA is an expiring asset so we should get some value from him and some have suggested that he's persona non grata with the FO anyway.

I dont know if he misjudged it this year. Tough to pull off a trade when your most sought after trade chip just got put on the shelf indefinitely on medical leave. The only thing they can do now is move Giolito and that will still be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Cant really move Crochet with Hendriks status up in the air. Colas and Montgomery are or should be untouchable. Obviously so is Robert and Jimenez. If you take all those guys off the table, theres not much that we have that other people want.

No pain no gain. A savage LH 2B is sitting in Miami. It's just an issue of whether you want to pay what it takes to get him.

It would have to be a 3 team trade sending TA to a prospect rich team, prospects from there to MIA, Jazz to CHW and we'd have to throw in something extra to balance it out since there's 4 cost controlled years of Jazz and only 2 for TA. Something like.... To LAD: TA To MIA: LAD prospects plus someone like Vera and either Sosa or Rodriguez To CHW: Jazz

Yep that's the first thing I thought of also. Maybe intl cash plus some middling prospect to get rid of the salary.

They did get his prime seasons, however it's unlikely they will get much if any surplus value since it's like 33.3m AAV, so just to break even he would have to average about 5.6m WAR every single year rain or shine just to break even and that assumes arthritis or something else doesn't wipe out any of those seasons.

So now we are a third place team....yaay

Prayers for Liam and his family. Get well soon buddy

I dont trust the Rays anyway when they want to move someone.

Ugh...forget it then. A young LH savage who can play SS is worth his weight in gold. He cannot be moved. Neither can Colas.

Savage LH 2Bs are uncommon its true...Chisholm, Lowe, but maybe a close to MLB ready prospect like Busch or Mauricio if scouts are ok with their glove.

Does this mean the trade market is finally going? If so, go get a LH savage 2B, RH. Do something already

Agreed. They did well on this one there's no question.

No to Escobar. He was below avg vs RHP.

Sounds like they are gonna fo another trade with Texas for salary relief and/or a marginal roster player at a position of need.

Get ready to be mad. IMO, they need to shed a bullpen salary if they want to add Duvall/Kemp.

Good FIP tho. He has some legit value in this market. Not a ton, but something.

Get a damn trade done with a RP like Joe Kelly for a platoon LH 2B with good D and WRC+ north of 100 vs RHP like Guillorme already. Every day I keep checking and they haven't done jack s%*#. Get something done already. Get something fucking done already.

But I thought RH said he was going to make a bunch of trades. If thats the case, we should be at least getting a platoon LH 2B to pair with the kids.

Guillorme doesn't suck at all. Very good D and high obp vs RHP. But not for Hendriks straight up. Definitely for Kelly.

Adding yet ANOTHER RHH does nothing to rebuild trust.

Yeah I don't buy that either. There would be an open revolt if he returned. They gave him a way to save face. That is all.

They have to make it appear he wasn't fired because he's JRs boy. So he had a retirement from active managing for health reasons. And he's still a welcome presence at camp. And a "trusted advisor" And on the payroll. This is just for the old man and a dog and pony show. No need to get upset about it. McNamara was given the World Bank presidency so he wouldn't lose face. Maybe TLR just likes to be around baseball watching ST. It's a small price to pay to ensure he's no longer messing stuff up.