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Wow...a team that's actually trying to win. I forgot what that looks like.

Combo of 1 & 3.

With Seby playing better, looks like they told McGuire to Beat It.

Ugh...some of the proposed trades for Happ mentioned earlier were awful. Hope not

No. 2 left handed savages is not enough.

Good. No big trades. If they drown, they drown. IDGAF.

If JA isn't going anywhere then Vaughn has to be going somewhere.

I think if you added him at 2B and with Colas likely to come up early next year in RF, you've added alot of LH savagery to the lineup. And with Montgomery progressing, you give Moncada reason to up his game at 3B because there would be someone pushing him relatively soon (2024).

Weren't there rumors earlier of a Sox Marlins Chisholm trade because the marlins didnt like his attitude or off field stuff? Based on the value chart, it would be almost identical if we got him for Vaughn, Ramos and Burger. I know he's out another 5 weeks but he could be ready for September and it's more of a long term thing. I dont want to trade Vaughn but Harold and others keep bringing him up in trade possibilities in the last year or so and a LH 2B with power and defense under long term cost control is harder to find than a very good RH 1B.

I know what savagery looks like. This isn't it.

Isn't there also high variation year to year in relievers? So why would we spend big money on multi-year deals for multiple relievers? I mean besides the fact that TLR wanted to get into DeLorean and head back to 1989 baseball?

Lulz @ getting 1 hit by a scrub pitcher and a AAAA team. I'm glad we're "buying" though as one RP and one platoon bat will surely allow us to overcome all the elite clubs in the league.

TLR wanted those guys and he outranks the FO.

At this point all I am asking is don't trade the young savages. I've given up on the thought of a legitimate window because it's a pipe dream.

Whew....good

Hell no

This is a very good sign that there will be no big moves if Baghdad Scott is saying this. And I'm perfectly fine with going along with the "guys coming back from injury are our acquisitions" charade if it means not trading savages.

But if they waited a couple weeks into next season the full year clock wouldn't start until 2024. Thats what we want....to have him rake for awhile in AA and then maybe promote him in September to AAA but then since he had so little time there in the end of the season he will need a little more time next year to work on some things and then you bring him up. A LH savage with mega power and a howitzer of an arm in RF is extremely valuable for this team, that extra year is critical.

Hasn't Rutherford done sorta OK this year? I'm not opposed to giving him a chance for a few games rather than having 1B and/or clowns in the OF everyday?

Ugh...my stomach is turning.

Dude I'm already practically in tears because I can already feel the young savages slipping away. It wouldn't surprise me one damn bit if they pulled this shit.

This is extremely depressing but the logic is absolutely sound. There is no incentive structure right now for them to think of the long term. The old man and TLR are about to leave the scene and the FO has future employment to worry about. KW/RH's rebuild cannot end up like Al Avila's. They'll sacrifice every young savage for the here and now even if it will obviously end in futility. All they are trying to do right now is save face and just get into the playoffs. Everyone knows this team ain't shit but at least they can say "hey we made it to the playoffs 3 years in a row for the first time ever with back to back division winners....sure we didnt win...but in the playoffs nothing is guaranteed, look at the Dodgers!". There is no realistic plan to actually win a championship, it's just trying to half ass their way back into the postseason and anything beyond that is gravy. Colson Montgomery being a 5 time All Star with Billy Beane's Oakland As with a 370+ career OBP is irrelevant. Oscar Colas becoming a perennial 25-30 HR hitter and left handed savage extraordinaire RHP destroyer for an NL Central club really isn't their problem. Norge Vera who? Oh we can get good Cuban players all the time RH will say. Oh and did you know that young pitchers can break?

This is an 80 grade post. The AL Central winner will do about as well in the playoffs as the AFC Champion did in the Super Bowl from 1984-1996....total, complete and utter sacrificial lamb that will get destroyed even if you add a few pieces here and there.

Cost?

Prolly at least another month and a half in AA and then maybe dip his feet in the water at AAA in Sept so they can say he still needs more work there next spring for service time.