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    Luis Robert

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    33 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

    The argument that the Sox are punting 2020 because Robert spent two weeks in AAA next season is such a terrible take.

    If the Sox punt 2020, it’s because they didn’t spend money on legitimate SP and acquire at least one above average position player. Not because their top prospect wasn’t called up the previous season and played like 10 games in the minor leagues to start 2020. 

    It is more about him spending the whole year in minors this year delaying his development in the majors.

    Luis Robert

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

    Yah, I'd love to watch Robert right now as as well.  But this team sucks, and I am happy to be patient and wait until ~ 4/20/2020 when this team should be significantly better positioned to win baseball games.  Good things come to those that wait.  

    If you want to win next year then you should want him up this year. Why do so many forget that players need to also develop in the majors? It took Moncada a year and a half and Eloy is still learning how to hit major league pitching.

    Eloy going on IL

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by JuliusO1274

    7 hours ago, Moan4Yoan said:

    The offense being terrible in a lost season isn’t really a good justification to lose an extra year of control on Robert and Madrigal.  I hope they wait until April of next year.

    It is unless you want next year to be another lost season. Players need time to develop in the majors too and it is better for them to do so in a lost season.

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    7/13 GT - Sox @ OAK - 3:07 PM CST

    in 2019 Season in Review

    Posted

    36 minutes ago, OneDog847 said:

    Enough is enough with Covey. He is not a major league quality pitcher and never will be. Hopefully today is the last time we will ever see him in a Sox uniform 

    He has been pretty solid this year by White Sox pitching standards and I think he should have had the chance to get out of the first inning.

    Robert to Charlotte? Per his Instagram

    in FutureSox Board

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

    I really hope we see Madrigal joining him soon. Mainly curious to see how he fares with the juiced MLB ball.

    Madrigal should just come straight to the majors. If he had some swing and miss issues I could see him benefiting from AAA before the big league but he doesn't need it. 

    Leury Garcia

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Richie said:

    When did Eaton and Quintana become elite? 

     

     

    When Quintana was in the top 5 pitchers in WAR the previous 4 seasons  and Eaton put up 6+ WAR prior to the trade. Point is that these trades are different then the "flip" trades when we get players who go into the minors system and never hear about them again.

    Leury Garcia

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Moan4Yoan said:

    I’m guessing he wasn’t a Sox fan back when that trade actually happened.  ?

    "Flip" is not a term I ever heard anyone using to describe trades prior to this rebuild so I am referring specifically to the trades that have occurred since it started.

    Leury Garcia

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    1 hour ago, Moan4Yoan said:

    What a stupid response.

    How did we get Moncada and Kopech?

    How did we get Eloy and Cease?

    How did we get Giolito?

    By trading elite players. A better question question would be what have we gotten for all the "flipped" players? Nothing.

    GT: Tigers (27-52) @ White Sox (39-42), July 3

    in 2019 Season in Review

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

    We've seen all 3 of Kopech, Cease and Giolito at the MLB level now. How would you line 'em up? 

    Cease has better stuff than all of them, well at least among our guys(haven't seen enough of Cole). Kopech never put up the K rate numbers that Cease had in the minors prior to his AAA struggles this year.

    The Acceptance Phase of James Shields and Tatis Jr.

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    On 6/28/2019 at 1:41 PM, hi8is said:

    Imagine another world where the Shields trade did not occur. Imagine in this world that we retained our talent and Tatis Jr.

    In this world, we don’t suck completely and as such draft for guys like Madrigal and Vaughn.

     

    Why do you assume the team wouldn't rebuilt if the Shields trade didn't happen? That team was collapsing before the Shields trade and would have had a losing record even without him. Without the Shields trade we likely would have rebuilt anyway and still had Tatis.

    I think the Sox can get Quintana back

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    I'd love of have Quintana back but I don't think it will happen. What would be the estimation of what we would have to give up to get him? This team is looking to compete next year and even if Quintana is now a 4+ ERA pitcher rather than a 3+ ERA pitcher it would still help immensely considering our rotation is currently a bunch of 6+ ERA pitchers and Giolito.

    Let's talk Eloy hitting cleanup

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    33 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said:

    Eloy is at his ceiling a prototypical 5 hitter on a great offensive team.

    Since when are power hitters who hit above .300 prototypical 5 hitter? The number 3 spot historically has been for the best bat in the lineup, guys who hit for power and average, I think Eloy should be moved to 3rd spot now with Moncada and Anderson batting either 1 or 2 and Abreu clean up.

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