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I agree, which makes it even more obvious there wouldn't be a need for a guy like Hand. Especially for a team where every $ counts. Now assuming Hand can be had for 2 years, that I would be interested in vs 4 years of Hendricks. Despite Hendricks being the much better pitcher for a high leverage playoff game come 2021 and 2022.

Not a fan of the stuff. He gets outs and by some optical illusion gets Ks. But I don't trust that kind of stuff in very high leverage playoff situations.

Very few relievers sustain long term effectiveness to validate anything more than a 3 year deal. The last thing you want to be stuck with is another Kelvin Herrera. And that's a guy who was constantly sitting at 99-100 before he went to Washington and then came here to die. Hendricks is 95-96 Hand - (no thanks)

You literally said : "Liam Hendriks and Brad Hand?"

Jesus, this is how the lunacy starts with this fanbase. You hear two names mentioned and now they better get both or bust. THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO CLOSE THE DEAL FOR ONE GUY!

The ML luxury tax is a joke.

CBA is coming, MLBPA might finally give in to a salary cap as long as it comes in with a floor. Just too many teams are refusing to employ serviceable veteran players at this point.

The "Jerry is Cheap and Sky is Falling" reaction portion of this thread will probably double this one in size.

Yes, even if they add Springer and Bauer I'd still take the White Sox Roster and more important their division competition.

Liam Hendricks thread going 65 pages long. 2 years ago no one even had a clue who he was. Amazing.

Robert already got his deal.

Was the closing role solidified going into 2020, that's the real question? A significant portion of the Sox fanbase wanted nothing to do with Colome going into 2020.

Bullpens are such a crapshoot. Going into 2020, Bummer was the only guy I had faith in. We came out of that season with not having an issue if Colome, Bummer, Marshall, Heuer, Crochet, Foster and even Fry at times getting the ball for a crucial out/inning in any game. While a guy like Hendricks would definitely put a lot of confidence for me on that pen come 2021, this "sky is falling" feeling many folks have if we miss on Hendricks is a bit being paranoid. Again, would love to have Hendricks. But it's not the end of the world.

Lance Lynn is easily a #2 on many contending teams.

I don't see how this is water carrying or disgusting. 4 Years is a bit long for a relief pitcher. When these guys hit the wall, it's unbearable. (see Kelvin Herrera)

How is this a bad thing, haven't people been screaming for a new front office for a long time?

Have the Sox already mentioned this? And if so, why would you sign a $10 million placeholder like Quintana when you eventually have to open up a spot for Kopech? Wouldn't Lopez be the placeholder then? Again, I don't see the need for going after another SP (since resources are limited).

I still don't get the cry for another SP. Kopech and Cease are getting the ball out of the gate. Lopez is still in the plans also. A full ST at the ML camp for Stiever can only help his progression also. Focus on landing the big bullpen piece with the rest of the $$$.

Other than Albert Belle, the Sox have never operated this way in my lifetime. And with a Pandemic, I much less expected this to be the off-season they decided to drop a 9 figure contract on someone. But this time around it bothers me way less since I believe in what they have already here for a core. If the Sox are going to win a World Series, it's because of this core already here and not because of some unicorn free agent.

That would still make it a very good off-season and a much improved roster. Not sure how that's underwhelming.

The part that gives me hope on Hendricks is Tony LarRussa. Historically, he's not a bullpen by committee guy (he basically invented the closer role with Eckersley).

When a guy is rumored this way for the Sox, it never ends up happening.

Sign a LF, move Eloy there where he belongs.

The Sox have plenty DH options in house. I don't want to ever see another Encarnacion handcuff.

It's a delusional fanbase. Every offseason, it's the same thing and this being a fanbase that prides itself as being smarter than the next one. What we have seen so far with the Lynn and Eaton moves is the same old "Sox way of doing business." Not sure where the shock comes from. However, unlike past patchwork acquisitions, there is an elite level core already in place this time around for which these moves make way more sense than the past. While I'd love to one day see the Sox make headlines and landing a Big Whale with no questions asked, I don't feel it's as urgently necessary this time around. However, I do not want to hear excuses down the line about not being able to retain our own home grown talent. So far, they have honored that part by jumping on early deals to lock up most of our core for an year or two beyond free agency. Need to see the same done for Giolito here soon. I hate to sound like dumb ass Bernstein on the Score, but the Sox are a lot closer to winning the World Series here today.