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Your lack of self-awareness is almost Trumpian. Telling someone to stop acting passive aggressive (who really isn't) while you are being passive aggressive.

Things are really going off the rails when Ron has to be the voice of reason.

If the Sox sign Joc early and they end up being serious about Springer/Bauer they can still do that. Joc isn't going to cost that much so there's a silver lining in any scenario, at least.

Again, wait until the ship has set sail before you bash the captain. This is a rather rudimentary concept you are not willing to accept. The fact you can't see that that is all some of us are doing is just ignorant. You just keep ignoring that and putting words in peoples' mouths.

Because you don't listen. You keep casting stones for things people aren't even saying. Yeah, nothing ever changes until it does. I don't expect it to, but I'm open to the possibility. You said there is no scenario where Joc signing here is good. You're 100% wrong, period and I explained the scenario. You make a false claim that a high contract will never be paid here to try to make yourself right when you aren't. Highly unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen, and until it does or doesn't you need to stop being such a dick. I'm not really getting personal. You don't listen and you're being an asshole. That's just a fact. I don't have a problem with you thinking the Sox won't sign a big one because that's what I myself have been pushing hard lately. But I'm not trying to claim it can never happen or acting like a dick to people for holding out hope. Sorry you can't see the difference.

You're just basically advertising loudly that you're an asshole right now. I said that I don't expect it. At all. You clearly don't fucking listen. You keep making these absurd assumptions that I keep invalidating and yet you continue to make them. But I'm going to be smart and wait until it doesn't happen rather than make assumptions and lose some of my dignity. I can see why your rep is what it is now.

Yes, there is. I just fucking mentioned it. If the Sox sign Bauer, it's actually a great move. That's an offseason they should have. If you're so convinced the Sox will not add top starting pitching, fine. It's expected. But wait until it doesn't happen before you act like a jackass to everyone here. Because if we do sign Bauer, I'm sure as shit gonna come back at you and rip you. Not for being wrong, but for being a dickhead. Quit while you're ahead.

You keep extrapolating things people aren't saying. That's a side effect of hot takes. You really need to stop. I don't expect them to sign Bauer. I'm saying *if.* Put it this way: there are scenarios where signing Joc is acceptable and even a good move. I don't expect any of those moves to necessarily happen, and in fact I've been telling a lot of people there's little reason to think they will, but you still have to wait and stop acting like the offseason has already happened. If the Sox get no top FA players and sign Joc, I'll be the first to rip Reinsdorf a new asshole but doing it now before anything has even been done just needs to stop. It's one thing to be pessimistic but you're being so pompous about this that if the Sox actually pull off one of these guys you are going to look silly and get ripped and it will be justified. Being wrong is fine, but being wrong while looking like an asshole is another thing. Calm your ass down.

Joc is a solid player. I'm fine with him being our RF if we sign Bauer because then we don't need that much offensive production out of that spot. But we can't honestly expect the Sox to sign Bauer AND Springer. Now, if we sign neither and end up with Joc, then yeah... I'm with you. But making it out like signing Joc in any scenario is a joke is a false narrative. You're ignoring a lot of factors and not thinking straight as you keep spewing these overly aggressive hot takes.

The idea that Plesac is an apt replacement for Dallas or that Dallas needs to be traded for him is silly to me.

I am perfectly cool with raiding the Reds' rotation.

This is really shortsighted. That nucleus is what we already had and it was messy. Another year will likely work out some kinks but then they might not, and a possiblity someone (especially Dallas) could regress means you need AT LEAST one more quality starter, but at least one TOR starter specifically to move the needle. Adding guys like Paxton and Quintana alone will not do that. (I'm really hoping we can get Lynn regardless of who we do or don't sign) If we want to go all the way, we need to aim higher than being the Twins. We need to be able to win playoff games.

That was the term I was originally going to use. More of you guys need to have a heart.

Absolutely this. I get sports rivalries fire people up as they should, but the amount of spite shown here is silly. Seems some people are taking pleasure in seeing Cubs fans "cry" because they feel their franchise is crumbling again. I would think Sox fans, of all people, would have a little more empathy.

That's not the only thing to worry about. I feel he will be ok but TJ raises more potential long term issues. Either way, for Snell it's an easy loss for me.

This is SUCH a blanket statement. There are a considerable amount of things to feel pessimistic about right now, honestly.

I don't know if anyone has even talked about how great Cruz as a 1 year DH for us while Vaughn gets ready would be. Sign me up.

I don't think many here are considering how much of a potential risk Kopech is after TJ. It's a toss up but in a package without another pitcher I think I would let Kopech go in a trade for Snell.

Just because he can doesn't mean he should have to. All you do is increase injury risk. This is a bad argument.

Lol Schwarber isn't exactly a good hitter either and arguably sucks in the OF. If we're going low budget for an OF then Joc is the man. I think I'd prefer JBJ also.

I love James but I'm not sure why they would pay serious money to keep him when they are paying good money for a top 3 catcher and have desperate needs elsewhere. Unless they really are gonna go all out and I highly doubt that.

For once I would love it if the team that goes the extra mile could be us.

Anyone who is a better OF option, and there's quite a few.

You guys are killing me.

It's not that. It's that I get annoyed by being attacked as someone who is overreacting and thinking "the sky is falling" because I'm being fucking realistic. If you want to have hope, that's fine. But I'm not going to be condescended to for being realistic and skeptical when I have every reason to.