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Again, what another team "wants" or does is entirely besides the point.

No. No way I'm trading all that for Marquez. And I'm not sure why citing an example of another team overpaying somehow makes us overpaying more sensible.

We got lucky with Keuchel. Either way, yes, that is exactly what happened to us last season. Dallas working out doesn't change that.

Why the fuck would anyone wanna trade all that for Marquez? What did I miss? Am I ignorant and he's actually an elite starter? Even for Darvish, all that is a ridiculous overpay. What is with all these ridiculous Madrigal, Cease++ trade proposals lately? Jesus. These guys are our future.

Problem is, that's usually the scenario we tend to end up in.

Are we that desperate to have conversations not pertaining to TLR right now? The fuck.

I think you're jumping to conclusions a bit. No, a lot of us don't like what you call his "politics," in which a lot of it isn't actually political. For some reasons every issue gets labeled as "political" now so that people can defend reprehensible views and be protected. I don't support vitriol but I do support shooting down people's "views" when facts and morals are opposed to them. Anywho, IMO it isn't *because* of his views, it just amplifies them and gives us yet another reason to intensify and validate the fact that the guy should have never been hired and now the organization is in a catch 22 where no matter what way Reinsdorf goes about it, he looks like an idiot and an asshole.

That wouldn't make one ounce of difference.

Another club just hired the first female GM, who actually seems qualified... And we just hired a 76 year old douche boomer-type convincted drunk who hasn't managed in 10 years to be the manager of our young and up and coming team. I know it's technically off topic, but this is just another reminder of how the situation for us just seems to cut deeper and deeper as time goes along.

But we know Reinsdorf won't do that, and he's the only one who can.

Fucking truth.

And this is why the guilty rarely get punished. Some sacrifices have to be made to achieve the greater good. Sounds harsh but that is reality. You come across like the guy who shits on people that seek a livable minimum wage because "Everyone will raise prices!" When it's the people raising the prices you should be mad at, not the little guy trying to make ends meet.

Not really relevant. Ray Rice is one man with a family and looks small in scope. Guys like Rensdorf don't go to jail for anything and technically he didn't commit a crime; but the ONLY way to make a difference here is to hurt his pocketbook.

Another bold illustration of just how ridiculously stupid this hire was, aside from it simply being bad on principle from the beginning.

I know you aren't this naive. Virtually none of these people actually face jail time. The only way to achieve greater good, unfortunately, requires loss before being put right.

With this logic it is impossible for people in these high positions to actually get punished. Sorry to say.

If nothing changes, it all stays the same.

It also makes me shake my head that people can be that oblivious to how things (and people) like this can affect attitude and morale and that makes a huge difference.

Tell people who have lost loved ones to drunk drivers (I'm not even one of them) how "petty" you think this is, and also stuff your ridiculous assumptions about what people would have done if it were a different coach.

What in the actual fuck.

*Sigh* We've already covered this nonsense.

This is the prime reason for my contempt with corporate America. You can't access the people in conversation that the bithcing needs to be directed to. And so the low level employees who have no say so over anything have to eat all the shit. The people who need to be eating it are laughing all the way to the bank.

Nah.

It is absolutely incredible how continuously this team can make us call for the head of a manager, only for him to finally get fired and then immediately want that person back once they move on to the next person.

This isn't even what sucks. Reinsdorf has zero way out of this without looking bad. The only actions he can possibly take from here are for saving face; this is purely a catch 22 situation now. This is the FULL incompetence of this franchise undoubtedly exposed. The damage is done. There are a lot of ways this can affect us negatively from here on out. The Stroman comments are damning whether we seek him or not. And if not... is that already a bad sign of what might come in the offseason? Only thing we can do is pray for best case scenario. We'll have to be lucky.