[Mike Clevinger to Sox per Rosenthal]

1 minute ago, steveno89 said:

I'm sure other teams were in on Clevinger, but $12 million seems expensive for a bounce back candidate. Guys like Heaney and Quintana should be licking their chops now. 

 This is where I am at. at 8-10, this was a great deal...once you get 12 or more...and it shouldn't be a prove it deal anymore. Let's hope he gets 3 WAR and its good value 

[Mike Clevinger to Sox per Rosenthal]

1 year deal apparently. So i am expecting 8-10 mil or so.

 

https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1596973607342682112?t=QlhybJyokKN7XtUhdNfa8Q&s=09

[Mike Clevinger to Sox per Rosenthal]

Really good on this one. You subtract 2 bad outing against the Dodgers and pitching in coors field and the dude was sub 3.50 era coming off TJ. I think he is a really solid add. 

[Cody Bellinger to the Cubs]

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

$22M? Woof. 

yeah, that is absurd. not interested at anything over 14 mil at absolute most. 

[2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread]

Can revolution (weed maker) make a Belly Sativa this weekend to convince a cheap signing? Like 8 mil a year and endless pot for the life of his time here? Win win. 

[Moncada and Robert could be on Cuban WBC team]

at some point both of these players will have a season where they are injury free and produce. maybe this is the kickoff to that as they will have increased conditioning and reps. i personally like it. 

[Abreu return? Zero percent chance]

Andrew as a full time 1st baseman will outhit Abreu the next 2 seasons. 

[Sox picking up TA option]

I thought they were gonna decline and go with Elvis...?

[Pedro Grifol named White Sox manager; Katz asked to return per Rosey]

54 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Left text: signing a capable RFer

Right text: signing yet another bullpen arm

you got it dude! 

 

[Pedro Grifol named White Sox manager; Katz asked to return per Rosey]

Who is the new batting coach? That matters the absolute most to me. 

Grifol - Manager
Montoyo - Bench Coach
Katz - Pitching Coach
??? - Batting Coach

This is looking okay. Not great, but I am coming to terms with the process of more analytic approach and with the right Launch Angle hire in BC...we may just be able to get more out of the disappointment of the last two years. 

 

 

[Pedro Grifol named White Sox manager; Katz asked to return per Rosey]

I think its safe to say that Hahn will no longer be with the organization after 2024 if they fail to reach the playoffs under Grifol's first 2 seasons. This hire is fine...but it's not what RH himself promised, and its not inspiring for a team aspiring to win "multiple championships" as he stated. FML. At least Tony is gone...but why go from a senior that has reputation to a freshmen that may not even have seen a dick before...

[White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread]

I for one am happy that this is being drawn out with many options. Makes me feel like they are actively doing due-diligence and debating candidates properly. And the hires all the other teams have made are solid...but were not realistic to Sox signing anyways. Long makes the most sense based on needs...and it not being announced yet could simply be the Phillies asking for it to wait until after WS. 

[White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread]

Ozzie is great...as the postgame color. Why would he want to give up that cushy gig? And why would anyone in this org think he won't blow up in a politically incorrect rant that get's him cancelled within the first 2 seasons? 

[Fire Rick Hahn]

I blame all of this on wheeler's wife. It's all her fault...?

[Greenberg on Sox fest...]

zero excuses here. I didn't plan on flying up for the fest...but it surely doesn't seem like a good PR move - which to me equates to almost no additions coming this offseason with the exception of a manager and hahn saying "the team is on the field"

[10/5- Twins at Sox, 3:10]

6 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Hahn is always looking for reasons to not build depth. Martin shoving again would have made it easier for him to be the 5th or 6th starter to open next year.

maybe this is for the best.

Agreed. Now cueto is back on the table at the least. Bummer, was rooting for Davis

[10/4- Twins at Sox, 7:10]

Giolito will have his best performance of the year...when it doesn't even come close to mattering. so White Sox. 

[10/3- Twins at Sox, 7:10]

58 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

Is there a financial reward for finishing second?

yeah, it means JR made a profit because fans had high expectations with middling results. WIN WIN for him. FML

[10/1/22 Sox @ Padres 7:40 Forget It, They're Rolling Gamethread]

Hahn should probably be fired for the Joe Kelly signing alone. It was the worst of the off-season by any GM.

[Admitting a Wrong: Kenny Williams vs Rick Hahn]

I was a Hahn guy until THIS season. f*** him and his obsession with overpriced relievers and "seat at the table" BS. Clean house completely or this rebuild is going to be a study in GM school for what not to do the next 50 years. 

[2022 season was insane bad luck]

ALL the money needs to be spent on replacing the entire coaching staff and especially building a world class sports medicine training team. Chicago has incredible talent in that realm, but it seems preventative maintenance was horrific this year. Get them on a plan in Oct/Nov, and build a philosophy geared to each player. They may do this already...but it seems light years different than the herm era. 

[9/22 Sox vs. Guardians 7:10PM CT]

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

It's never been about the managers or coaches. At least for me.  Players.  They're quitters. 

Agreed...but with Tony's contract on the books...they wont hire someone new. And Cairo proved this series he is clueless as well....so its the last year of window (2023) that is gonna be wasted again. Unreal.

[9/22 Sox vs. Guardians 7:10PM CT]

So Cairo aint it...we are so fucked

[9/21 Sox vs Cleveland]

So last night was meaningless afterall. Put a fork in em...thank goodness it's over

[9/20 Sox vs Cleveland]

Some pollock crow eateth? (I know it was rosario's gaffe)