EloyJenkins

Eloy, Robert, Harper....oh what could have been. Anyways - Eloy, Robert, Basabe will be really good in 2020 at some point with L. Gonzalez chomping at the bit. Jon Jay will be serviceable this season as a bandaid for FA failure. If Rutherford rakes this season I fully expect him to get packaged with some relievers and prospects for another starter.

75 absolutely frustrating wins. They have potential to win 82-84 with their lineup, but pitching and defense is gonna a be their bane. I'm excited about Eloy and Moncada though. Gotta feeling they click.

I have been a long time lurker here...can't remember being inspected anally so much. That probing feels... underwhelming.

The beauty this year though is he is much cheaper so Banuelos can step in until Cease is ready. Will be interesting to see if Cease gets a locked up contract and they bring him up sooner if he destroys AAA.

I think Cubs are just trying to give happy reality check. I don't think they are looking to trade him yet. If he comes up and struggles again though...I'm sure they would take offers.

i think he has to basically. Boras really screwed him over if he thought 100 mil + was realistic

4/60 is much more realistic to actual. the draft pick part is concerning though.

I know that is the problem though...who makes sense? Everyone is already extending. Sox need at least 1-2 really professional pitchers when their competitive window opens in either 20 or 21...but almost no FA options are going to be around....so prices will be SKY HIGH. Bumgarner, Wheeler or Porcello will be your top options now with all moves this week.

he wont get anywhere close to the 100 million he wanted imo.

IF no one else is willing to give him more than 2 year deals...yet it is.

With Sale, Archer, Verlander and Cole soon to be locked up...the Sox should be checking in on the latest asking price for Dallas. Yes...it will be a slight overpay for his diminishing skills...but the options next year will not be good and the only alternative will include trading top ten minor talent as the Yankees, Dodgers and Cubs will be desperate for arms next year. 4/64 sounds about right and he will slot in as a mainstay with Kopech, lopez and Cease for '20-22 seasons (with maybe 5th year club option). This season can be a revolving door of our #5 type starters and you can see if Giolito has what it takes and give Dunning the time he is going to need without rushing. I didn't want him in an overpay...but I think the slim pool of FA impact will be gone completely soon and he offers a chance at getting decent production for the cost. Thoughts?

Honestly...this is 75% why this deal was done. Add in poor season opener ticket sales....they needed a story to motivate the fans. I think it's a mediocre baseball decision that will either be just under market value or a slight overpay. This will never be a Great deal, but the PR vibes alone was worth it for RH. My favorite part though...is they can't use the future contracts we need to sign will dictate our payroll line. They locked up their biggest asset for 8 years with a budgeted number. Now FA attempts need to be fair, not underpays

Beer, brats n onions and a whole lot of Eloy. What else is better? Also...the idea of having an incredible third baseman could be absolutely vital to this rebuild. He has the power. He has the bat speed. He has the defensive instincts. He puts it all together, madrigal hits and the sting of Macho man is gone. Consider me overly optimistic as well, but I think at least one of the MiLB kids goes crazy this year and jumps through the system and rankings. Rodon finally stays healthy. And in case it all fails...more Beer.

Once again...Machado's deal was a "Bargain" compared to market rate. We will never have a chance at a top 10-15 player for under 300 million ever again. But at least we will have that Eloy money saved up for years...

My top choice for FA is Manny Machado. Can he opt out this year?

This was a bargain hunting excercise for me. At full price...nah, it's a pass. But if he can be below market rate it really solidifies the staff and forces the fringe guys to really compete. He isn't perfect, but I would rather have him than Bumgardner, because Sale and Cole won't be in JRs price range...

Keuchel... Should we? Buster Olney's new article today shows a very limited market with no one wanting to pay or go long term. Should Sox be aggressive and offer 5/70? Value would be tremendous and he would lead the team the next few seasons and be on the team during contention window. At worst...he is a #3 on this team in a couple years and maybe can help mentor the young guns. I know 5/70 is probably unrealistic, so let's say 5/80 max offer. Just seems solid to me. Thoughts?

A cease sighting finally. Hopefully he really puts it together this season and is ready for 2020. Sox need it BAD.

This off-season has been a roller coaster ride for all of us. Posts like the OP sounds so silly considering what we all went through together. I haven't sworn them off and that is silly, but give people their own time and space. JR literally caused ulcers and grief beyond repair to some.

I'll little dick your woman...and she will like it. Dont tell a fan what emotions they can't feel. That is the definition of an asshole.

Imagine an outfield of Eloy Robert and Harper the next 6 seasons...oh shit.

Seeing these rosters has put me into an early friday Bourbon shopping spree. MUST. STOCK. UP. NOW.

Pretty good. Arm strength is solid, and he has made a couple nice reactionary plays, one great one that bounced off the pitchers glove. Time will tell, but with a lack of 3B prospects...he will get 2 solid years to prove himself there.

They will have to as the next CBA will most definitely have a floor in it and with 21 million only on the books for 2021...it will happen. Will there be some very poorly thought out contracts...of course...but this team averages at least a 120mil payroll all the time and history since the WS win has been that they will pay. Hahn just needs to spend wisely, which is most definitely up for debate.

Moncada has actually looked great in ST so far...so this is weird to jump on him. If he can provide strong defensive value at 3rd as well....he could be a 2-3 WAR player for very cheap that allows us to grab a #1 or #2 starter next FA period. Pitching is what this team really needs above all.