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Bernie is such a nice guy, but for a national baseball writer he really has no sources and his takes are usually pretty hot.

This is actually the best part to me; they don't even realize that they're telling on themselves when they post that ignorant nonsense. Rays make World Series with payroll 1/4 of Dodgers. Rays proceed to lose to said team... meatheads come out in droves to blast the idiotic analytics people who couldn't beat the Dodgers while spending 25% as much money. I found it more concerning that Cash said he'd do it again; like bro, you're supposed to learn from your mistakes. Let's work on not planning games at 2pm and never adjusting. That's not what analytics says to do.

and your posts are a great reminder why one shouldn't listen to old people and their big guts.

Being old is an underlying condition. Thanks for coming out.

I almost feel the opposite; you ever spend 200 straight days around someone? If you can't connect with them, they rub you the wrong way by about day 10. In football and basketball, at least you have more time away from the dick head coach ha.

Why do people at Soxtalk think Lance Briggs would have the slightest idea about who the Sox were hiring as manager lol

Oh great, Dave Duncan. This is such a Bruce tweet; don't be shocked if Dave Duncan is involved... he won't be a coach. So LaRussa is going to be brought in and start making non-coaching personnel moves? Jesus... Arizona 2.0 here we come. Vaughn and Madrigal got their bags packed and are ready to be shipped out for some pitcher who will be out of baseball in 2 years.

He has literally been quoted saying analytics have no place in a dugout once the games start.

I want to clarify this; I don't think Cash lost the game. Again, players didn't score runs and etc and the onus is on them. I do think that Snell shuts the door last night; I just hadn't seen a guy that dominant in a really long time. That doesn't mean he would remain that way, but there's a reason Mookie was smiling.

no, because if roberts doesn't f up the baez move, the series was already over imo too. At the end of the day the players decided it and the better team won.

Francona, Maddon, and Roberts being considered analytics guys is kind of nonsense. They definitely listen, and follow direction from analytical front offices, but Maddon, Roberts and Terry all give their guys more leash and use their feel plenty

Its almost like the players are the ones that matter and having the most talent is what matters. Roberts is an idiot often because he's loyal to his guys. Cash fcking plans the entire game at 2pm and doesn't deviate. I don't think Cash decision is defensible and I didn't think Roberts telling baez he was done and then not was defensible. End of the day though, the guys on the field decide it. Rays are playing tonight if that move isn't made though imo.

Have you seen Tony's LOL because if you thought Hahn's were bad, you're going to be in for a real treat when you look at TLR!

Maybe, maybe not.

I didn't say every, I said most... and most young pitchers are into the tech and biomechanics of pitching. It has been provided to them by coaches/trainers. It is just another tool they use to help better themselves.

I just don't by it bmags; we'll agree to disagree. I don't think he came up with "a lot of tech" either. It's not as if he invented the tech either, it was used in golf and etc. No one wants you to believe that this tech has revolutionized the game more than the guys who are selling it. Dylan Cease was paired up to those camera's all last year and last off-season. They identified what his "issue was" but we're 1+ year later and Cease still has no rise on his FB. I love tech and data - I work in the field - but sometimes the impact of tech on athletes is really overblown. Rapsado machines are a useful resource, but they don't dictate the success of a pitcher. They merely help evaluate what a pitcher is doing, but people knew Cease's fastball didn't have the life it needed even if there weren't machines telling us the spin and rise. EDIT: I don't think anything rubs me the wrong way more than someone proclaiming how hard someone works when they've never been on a team with him or in a room with him. The hardest workers in my life, typically, have been incredibly quite. They never proclaimed to the world how much harder they were working.

Which is an entirely different argument. Also, injuries are up in baseball for SP's, not down. Driveline's focus on maximum spin and velocity could very well cause more injuries. We honestly have no idea. While tech helps to catch things like drops in arm angle and velocity - allowing a team to react and help keep a pitcher healthy - it's very possible that the training regimens and etc are having an impact on SP health.

I'm really not; you're giving credit for a guy like Giolito's turnaround to someone who had nothing to do with it what-so-ever. Giolito didn't consult Bauer and certainly didn't use him as a barometer. Giolito made the commitment, sought the help from those he worked with before, put in the work and changed his career. It had nothing to do with Trevor Bauer. I've never once met a pitcher who used tech because Trevor did; not discrediting that Trevor MAY have introduced some tech. I also think the impact of tech on pitchers might be the most overblown thing I've ever seen in my life; ode to Harold on this one. It's a tool and resource to help you improve; it in no way makes or breaks your career.

How the f does Steve Stone know how hard Trevor Bauer works? Carson Fulmer is on the Trevor Bauer regimen; how's that working out for him? You're 100% right too; I don't like Bauer, and most people who have played with him don't like him either. He who shouts the loudest about how smart and hard he works is likely not one who works the hardest and/or knows the most. I've said it before, but when your teammates in high school, college, and the pros universally don't like you, it's not because you "speak your mind and are a free thinker." It's because you're an asshole.

Pitchers have been playing long toss for 20+ years; long toss was thrown everyday by pitchers when I was in college in 2005. There were certainly skeptics in the game, but it was common training programs used by pitching coaches across the country. I'll give you edgertronic and bringing that tool into baseball but the impact of that tool is whatever... Giolito tinkered because he was awful and knew he had to change or lose his career. Man you guys really reach on the impact of Bauer. Pitchers have been using data and tech for quite sometime. Pitchers have been changing deliveries and etc forever. 2018 was great, but every other year counts. To just pretend like he hasn't been an average SP every other year is just dishonest. He certainly isn't elite.

Never said 2018 doesn't count; I said I wouldn't put much stock in his performance this season. 1. He cheated and openly admitted it (maybe he'll keep cheating going forward because it's not enforced but if not, that needs to be taken into account) 2. Ignoring this past year, Bauer has under 3.3 fWAR in 3 of 4 seasons; if you go by bWAR (which I prefer for evaluating actual results), he has only eclipsed 3 WAR once in his entire career. To put a pitcher with the above stats into elite company is crazy imo.

My number 1 rule of thumb is never ever sign and pay a guy for a career year in his contract year. Given that this was only 60 games, even more so. When I am evaluating bauer I personally wouldn't even count this past season. People putting Bauer in elite company are absolutely crazy imo. This whole student of the game stuff is such nonsense too. Most any youngish pitcher is just like bauer with tech and analytics. He's just vocal about it.

If We only had a coach like Dave ROberts we WOULDA BEEN so much better: Roberts tells Baez he's done after the 6th. Then changed his mind after he already sat and relaxed and put him back out there lol

Players don't try to beat the shift because it would involve them changing their swing and approach; Ryan Howard wasn't going to lay down a bunt and forgo trying to do damage with his power. Chitown has really inflated the difficulty of bunting by world class hitters who make contact with the ball while their bat is moving. If I could bunt 90+ MPH pitches consistently, so can world class hitters even if they haven't practiced. The fact is, they don't want to and it's because it would limit the damage they can do.